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Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:02 pm

Hey A.netters! I remember reading an article last week and it said that you would be banned from North Korea if you brought a bible there so this mad me think:What would happen if you brought a rosary,cross or other religious items from other religions With you just to continue practicing your faith would you be kicked out,put in one of their concentration camps or just be banned from entering the country again?

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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:21 pm

Quoting Lesfalls (Thread starter):
What would happen if you brought a rosary,cross or other religious items from other religions With you just to continue practicing your faith would you be kicked out,put in one of their concentration camps or just be banned from entering the country again?

Given that #1 and #3 are more rewards than punishments, I'd be inclined to say #2.
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:51 pm

2 years ago an American took a bible to North Korea, and deliberately left it in a club bathroom. He was sentenced to 15 years of hard labour for "spreading religion", although he was released and deported after 6 months.

I travelled there a few years ago, and they don't search you to check if you are wearing any jewellery that may be religious, so you would probably get away with wearing it, but I really wouldnt risk it.

Most North Koreans won't know what the symbol is anyway.
 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:04 pm

If you were lucky you might be executed by anti-aircraft gun, that would reunite your atoms with your Maker and also give everyone on A.net lots to talk about. It might even make sense in MilAv if you could successfully make the case using the method.
 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:29 pm

The North Koreans are cruel, but they aren't stupid. If you're just a tourist (i.e. a money-maker from their perspective), they're not going to care if you were a crucifix or a kippa or a headscarf or whatever. But if you're there to proselytize, particularly if you're a missionary, perhaps with a Christian-Korean background, they're going to notice, and either kick you out or detain you. And yes, they can tell the difference.
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:35 pm

They have a church in Pyongyang, saw it in a documentry online.
 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:03 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 5):

They have a church in Pyongyang, saw it in a documentry online.
"A" church. It's about as real as anything else in Best Korea, however. It may be physically there, but it doesn't stand for what it is.
 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:14 pm

Hmmmm.... you want to know if it's ok to wear or bring symbols of a fairy-tale to a country that is a nightmare? 

If this is a theoretical question, who cares, and if you're actually going, well perhaps a little discretion might be prudent. I often wonder why people visit other cultures and countries and expect them to accept your way, when you should respect their way of doing things (whether you agree with it or not). You are a guest in their country and should behave as a guest.
 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:47 am

Quoting photopilot (Reply 7):
You are a guest in their country and should behave as a guest.

I have been to St. Michael's in Sitka, AK and also to missions in California and to homes of Japanese. As an American Protestant, I take a moment to ask what I need to do so I do not disrespect their space.

If I were to visit DPRK, I would wear long pants (to cover my tattoos) and bow and not bring in a Bible or Koran. That is their space, not mine.
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:30 pm

Why on Eath would you want to be ANYWHERE near that country???
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:15 pm

Quoting photopilot (Reply 7):

Maybe You should just respect me instead of saying that my religion is false and a fairy-tale. Maybe you and your dinosaurs are a fairy tale .
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:17 pm

Quoting bhill (Reply 9):

They have many aviation tours with soviet aircraft and many A.netter have gone just for that. Many have said it was quite an interesting experience.
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:04 pm

Quoting bhill (Reply 9):

Only Americans wouldnt.
 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:44 am

Quoting bhill (Reply 9):
Why on Eath would you want to be ANYWHERE near that country???

I would go to say I have been, but that is about it.

I read an interesting blog by some people from Europe who, IIRC, took the train from VVO to Pyongyang. It was an interesting read with pictures. I think, because the country is so secretive, people are interested.
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:46 am

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 10):
Maybe you and your dinosaurs are a fairy tale

Dinosaurs are real. Didn't you see Jurassic Park which proves it!  
 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:01 am

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 10):

Maybe You should just respect me instead of saying that my religion is false and a fairy-tale. Maybe you and your dinosaurs are a fairy tale .


Is this meant to be ironic?
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:22 am

Quoting photopilot (Reply 14):

And I suppose talking tidy Baird are too if you go off fictional movies 
Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 15):

No it wasn't meant to be but it seems to have turned into something funny 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:33 am

Well its quite a silly comparison when you are talking about degrees of proof, isnt it?
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:45 am

Why would you risk it? I'm sure they could care less if you wear a cross that no one can see, but why bring things that make it look like you might try to proselytize?

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 10):
Maybe You should just respect me instead of saying that my religion is false and a fairy-tale.

Religion is a fairy tale.

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 10):
Maybe you and your dinosaurs are a fairy tale

No, try science.
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:47 am

Quoting bhill (Reply 9):
Why on Eath would you want to be ANYWHERE near that country???

Because it's a fascinating place. And the people there are people. They fall in love and make babies and laugh with their friends and hate their in-laws just like we do.

But why would you want to bring religious symbols or materials to DPRK if you were going? Will you lose your faith without your cross or copy of the Q'uran or statuette of Vishnu or whatever it is?

I'm not going to argue religion here, but I think that if you are going to go to DPRK, you're a fool to try to bring any religious imagery in.
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:34 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
Religion is a fairy tale.

There are some good life lessons. And it makes people less scared of death and things they don't understand.

I just wonder: what happens if a bottle washes ashore in DPRK with some pages from the Bible or Koran? If person A throws a sealed bottle off a certain bridge in California and, years later, that bottle washes up on the shores of DPRK and just happens to have holy texts in it?

Stranger things have happened, but, what happens with sealed bottles?
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:21 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 20):
And it makes people less scared of death

That's not always a good thing.

In some cases, most notably Islamic and Christian extremists, it teaches them to CRAVE death... for themselves and others.
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:56 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):

And I suppose magic is also a true thing and miracles are not  
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:07 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 20):
Stranger things have happened, but, what happens with sealed bottles?

most of the population dont speak anything other than Korean, so you would need to translate it first.
 
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RE: Bringing Religious Items To North Korea?

Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:04 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 20):
I just wonder: what happens if a bottle washes ashore in DPRK with some pages from the Bible or Koran? If person A throws a sealed bottle off a certain bridge in California and, years later, that bottle washes up on the shores of DPRK and just happens to have holy texts in it?

Stranger things have happened, but, what happens with sealed bottles?

Well what could possibly happen? Fisherman Kim reports to his work unit leader that he found a sealed bottle with some text. "Hmm", thinks work unit leader, "looks sinister, better stow it away". And that's the end of it.

I probably don't need to tell you this, but texts aren't "holy" in themselves. They become revered only because of what people make of it. If Christianity or Islam had never developed historically, and if a Bible or a Koran would randomly appear on earth, it wouldn't make any great impact. It would just be some incoherent text among many others.
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