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Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:40 pm

In this day and age.. why do some restaurants/bars still have them?

Its such and awkward interaction.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:56 pm

Quoting mt99 (Thread starter):
In this day and age.. why do some restaurants/bars still have them?

To stop illegal or unwanted activities. Its hard to do cocaine in peace if a sketchy black man is hounding you for a tip because you used some cheap cologne he had laid out on an old dinner tray.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:00 pm

Who else is gonna hand you that fresh and warm towel?
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:06 pm

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 1):
To stop illegal or unwanted activities. Its hard to do cocaine in peace if a sketchy black man is hounding you for a tip because you used some cheap cologne he had laid out on an old dinner tray.

Unless you slip said guy a crisp note to pop outside...
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:19 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 3):
Unless you slip said guy a crisp note to pop outside...

Would only cost you $20 I bet - those guys can be bought for cheap.

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 1):
To stop illegal or unwanted activities. Its hard to do cocaine in peace if a sketchy black man is hounding you for a tip because you used some cheap cologne he had laid out on an old dinner tray.

So they just go into the toilet and close the door. Attendants are usually reading the paper and don't care anyways. I refuse to let them perform any services on me so I have a convenient reason to not tip them and tacitly endorse what they do. It's a terrible job, I don't even know why that job was considered a good idea at any point in history, and it sure is useless today. I try to avoid returning to any places that employ them once I find out they are there.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:43 pm

Maybe to make sure the help wash's their hands after they do their business. Is that too much to ask for?
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:57 pm

Quoting LittleFokker (Reply 4):

Would only cost you $20 I bet - those guys can be bought for cheap.

£50 did it at an evening event I went to recently. Also, my cue to be leaving... can't be bothered with that shit in 'professional' client environments.


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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:03 pm

Quoting mt99 (Thread starter):
Its such and awkward interaction.

Imagine how it feels trying to take a massive dump in a large bathroom facility in a Cambodian casino where there are at least a dozen bathroom attendants or whatever you want to call them standing by and you are the only one in there to use the toilet.

Two at the entry to the bathroom.

One at every few toilet doors, just feet away from the action, to open and close the partition door.

One at every few sinks to turn the tap on and off and press the soap pump.

One at the paper hand towel dispenser to hand out towels.

One at the hand dryer to push the button if one prefers that option.

At least a dozen of them just waiting to get in on the action.

One asks - "Everything okay, sir?" - as the turd gets angry...

I'm thinking to myself - "Just shut the F up and piss off - let me crap in peace"

So for those in favor of bathroom attendants I recommend a visit to a Cambodian casino in Poipet...
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:10 am

If they actually do a job of keeping the place clean, towels restocked, and so on, I guess they serve a useful function.

They have attendants in the toilets in some airport lounges. Just because someone is travelling in J or F, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are particularly clean in their toilet habits.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:22 am

Quoting WearyDrover (Reply 8):
They have attendants in the toilets in some airport lounges.

Charlotte airport has attendants in a lot of their bathrooms and I hate it. God damn turd burglars everywhere. I *always* use the family bathrooms so I can be alone and undisturbed when I'm dropping an abomination into the commode. With my diet and lack of self control I'd get a battery charge if someone were to walk in.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:34 am

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 9):
Charlotte airport has attendants in a lot of their bathrooms and I hate it. God damn turd burglars everywhere. I *always* use the family bathrooms so I can be alone and undisturbed when I'm dropping an abomination into the commode. With my diet and lack of self control I'd get a battery charge if someone were to walk in.

Or use the toilet in the airplane. Totally private, and no bathroom attendant.




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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:03 am

In some places, like casinos, it is to keep out non-customers, keep out the homeless, prevent illegal activity and offer a better customer experience. Attendants are very common in much of Europe and I hate having to 'pay the toll' when use a loo.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:05 am

Quoting Skydrol (Reply 10):
Or use the toilet in the airplane. Totally private, and no bathroom attendant.

Airplane toilets, while offering unparalleled noise protection and visual privacy during the act, are a nightmare for a shameful shitter like me. All I can think about is the line or the potential for a line to be there to greet me when I open the door. "How long have they been there? They have to know what was occurring just moments ago in here."

Or the fact that someone is eating a southwest chicken wrap merely inches from my body at this very moment and the only thing separating me from them is a small, curved plastic wall.

Total nightmare.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:09 am

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 9):

Charlotte airport has attendants in a lot of their bathrooms and I hate it. God damn turd burglars everywhere. I *always* use the family bathrooms so I can be alone and undisturbed when I'm dropping an abomination into the commode. With my diet and lack of self control I'd get a battery charge if someone were to walk in.

Well done, sir. You just won Airliners.net!

Quoting LittleFokker (Reply 4):

So they just go into the toilet and close the door. Attendants are usually reading the paper and don't care anyways. I refuse to let them perform any services on me so I have a convenient reason to not tip them and tacitly endorse what they do. It's a terrible job, I don't even know why that job was considered a good idea at any point in history, and it sure is useless today. I try to avoid returning to any places that employ them once I find out they are there.

What drives me nuts is that there is no avoiding them. I go in, I do my business, I go to wash my hands and one of them hands me a paper towel and now wants a tip. The only solution is to not wash my hands and, not only am I a doctor, but that's just gross.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:47 am

   Interesting thread replies, amusing!

The only time I have encountered this from memory, is at CGK (Soekarno-Hatta International Airport). I haven't travelled much, in the larger scheme of things so I am probably in for a shock in other countries should I not be prepared! I don't recall ever having bathroom attendants in Australia, even at casinos?

I found it to be intrusive, as if I have to pay to go to the toilet. At least they were clean, the bathrooms - too clean! I understand it more now, than I did at the time. I remember they were looking, almost like one could not get out the door unless a tip was given. I was also getting over the fact that I had never seen a bidet before, and hey, that is also more for them to clean or supervise!



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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:24 am

Up until a few years ago, Lufthansa had them in their lounges (business class and senator) in FRA, at least in the Schengen areas where I encountered them. I was underwhelmed to say the least. You pay thousands to cross the Atlantic with Lufty, you end up in a crowded lounge and you have to pay to do your part to reduce the take-off weight ahead of your connecting flight? Way to take your customers for granted.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:36 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 7):
So for those in favor of bathroom attendants I recommend a visit to a Cambodian casino in Poipet...

Most people choose to head onwards to Siem Reap, using Poipet only as a transit area from their journey from Thailand. Notice how 'Poipet' rhimes on 'toilet'

I'll never forget the sight of glue-sniffing street children, which greeted me upon entering Cambodia.



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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:18 pm

The worst I ever saw was in a dingy pub in Duesseldorf Altstadt, the bathroom attendant had a paper plate of jelly babies next to the tip plate.

I was in Cairo recently and we went on a river cruise, the attendant opened the tap and offered paper towels. I took the paper towels, said thank you, used them and walked out.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:17 pm

I actually like them in the public toilets here, e.g. on Motorway service stations. They keep the place clean and their presence prevents vandalism and unwanted activities. I gladly spend the 50 Cents for having a clean toilet with enough toilet paper, soap and towels.
But there is one difference I noticed between Europe and the US (not just restricted to toilet attendants, but also waiters and sales persons): It seems that in the US customer service and servility get confused. Do your job, but don't force yourself on me. I don't need to be talked into making a buy (quite the opposite, let me pick what I want by myself, if I have a question, I will ask. If you annoy me I will walk out) and I will give you a tip (in a restaurant) without being constantly prompted, if you do your job right. Don't treat me like an invalid, I'm well capable of packing and carrying my shoppings.
Behave with some dignity and selfrespect and I will respect you. I don't need a brown noser.
So for a toilet attendant: Keep the place clean and the soap, towel and toilet paper dispensers filled up and leave me otherwise alone, and you'll get your tip.

Jan
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:59 pm

Quoting Skydrol (Reply 10):
Or use the toilet in the airplane. Totally private, and no bathroom attendant.

On the UA domestic configured 777s in around 2007 there was one Y lav on the side just before a exit door where the lav door faces the seats in the last middle rows. When I exited the lav the closest 4 pax were all smiling at me   

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 12):
Airplane toilets, while offering unparalleled noise protection and visual privacy during the act, are a nightmare for a shameful shitter like me. All I can think about is the line or the potential for a line to be there to greet me when I open the door. "How long have they been there? They have to know what was occurring just moments ago in here."

I just give it a few flushes and close the lid but I couldn't care what the next person thinks. They will know what kind of battle was taking place in the lav minutes early given how long the door was closed and the number of flushes. There are so many people in such a small space on that plane I doubt they will remember me anyway - they might remember the smell, though  

Having said that, the lav walls / door on the last UA 787 I flew on must have been so thin because I could hear conversations happening outside so people on the outside would be well aware in certain instances what was doing in the lav.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
What drives me nuts is that there is no avoiding them. I go in, I do my business, I go to wash my hands and one of them hands me a paper towel and now wants a tip.

Screw tipping people who are intrusive.

What you could do to test them is not wash your hands but pull a bank note out with your unclean hand and say 'here you go anyway' - see if they take the contaminated tip  
Quoting fallap (Reply 16):
Most people choose to head onwards to Siem Reap, using Poipet only as a transit area from their journey from Thailand.

Most people aren't doing a Thai visa run  
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:00 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 19):
On the UA domestic configured 777s in around 2007 there was one Y lav on the side just before a exit door where the lav door faces the seats in the last middle rows. When I exited the lav the closest 4 pax were all smiling at me

Just give them    and state: Everything came out just fine!

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 12):
Airplane toilets, while offering unparalleled noise protection and visual privacy during the act, are a nightmare for a shameful shitter like me. All I can think about is the line or the potential for a line to be there to greet me when I open the door. "How long have they been there? They have to know what was occurring just moments ago in here."

Or the fact that someone is eating a southwest chicken wrap merely inches from my body at this very moment and the only thing separating me from them is a small, curved plastic wall.

Total nightmare.

That is hilarious, worrying someone might be eating a sandwich nearby. Obviously you would not like having a bathroom attendant absolutely aware of everything you are doing and seeing you face to face on the way into and out of the bathroom. I don't think I would like this either (I remember years ago, attendants, often ladies knitting to occupy their time, being present in the bathrooms at train stations in Germany, and this was my first experience with bathroom attendants). But airplane toilets are no problem, once I reach the stage I really have to 'go', I am in and out quick anyway, so other passengers don't wait long.






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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:01 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
The only solution is to not wash my hands and, not only am I a doctor, but that's just gross.

I don't know Doc I was in a gay club once, went to the toilet, a lot worse things can happen in there than not washing hands.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:36 pm

To me working, cleaning and hanging out in a restroom all day would the absolute worst job in the world. Whenever I run across
a restroom attendant I leave him a couple of bucks to help him out.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:47 am

Quoting dfwjim1 (Reply 22):
To me working, cleaning and hanging out in a restroom all day would the absolute worst job in the world.

Limited options for career progression too  
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:09 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 18):
So for a toilet attendant: Keep the place clean and the soap, towel and toilet paper dispensers filled up and leave me otherwise alone, and you'll get your tip.

So true. But in the last years the "Klofrauen" became increasingly more active in Germany, which is annoying.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:06 am

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 11):

Are they? Since when?
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:07 am

Quoting VapourTrails (Reply 14):

Never seen them either.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:30 pm

My take on them is, if I use their stuff, aftershave/gum etc, I'll pay. If I only wish to wash my hands, I won't as I shouldn't have to pay to ensure personal hygiene.

Some of the guys deliberately turn off the switches for the electric hand dryers, I soon clocked onto that when they first started to appear here in the UK, so now I always check, the switch is usually directly above the hand dryer, and if its off, I switch it back on, then dry my hands for free - then make sure the attendant knows that I've clocked his scam.

Most of them are nice chaps just trying to earn a living though and some of their rhymes are quite entertaining.

 
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:07 pm

In France you sometimes have a "dame pipi" (pee lady), she doesn't do anything for you, she just sits there waiting for a tip for having cleaned up the place. In Italy they're much more common, same thing, sat there waiting for money.

Quite annoying. I've never encountered the kind described in this thread, but I would hate them even more.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:55 pm

The bathroom attendants are the thing I hate about CLT. They are nice but idea of some guy sitting there watching me urinate is a little creepy. They should focus more on the stalls....
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:15 pm

To provide a punchbag for Cheryl Tweedy - AKA Cheryl Cole or whatever she is called now.
 
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RE: Bathroom Attendants: Whats The Point?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:03 am

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 29):
The bathroom attendants are the thing I hate about CLT. They are nice but idea of some guy sitting there watching me urinate is a little creepy. They should focus more on the stalls....

Creepy pretty much sums it up. At least in Morocco, they sell you toilet paper.

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