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Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:55 pm

Hi all,

I am looking into buying a new used car in 2017 to replace my 2005 PT Cruiser and one of the vehicles I am considering is
a Toyota Camry, years 2014 - 2016. I have heard good things about the Camry but wanted to got your opinions on those of you
who own or have owned a Camry. BTW I drive about 25 miles a day and live in South Florida.

Thank you for your assistance.
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:28 am

If reliability is what you want, you can't go wrong with Toyota. I don't own a Camry but I've owned other Toyota models and I do know 4 Camry owners.
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:34 am

Honestly you can't go wrong with a Toyota. See if you can find something chain driven, then a cam belt isn't a lifetime issue.
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Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:19 am

I'm also thinking about trading my old DeVIled in and the Camry is high on the list. We have owned Corollas since the '72 model was released and then have been great cars - both here and in Australia. We also owned Caronas in Australia (which shows my age) and those were excellent cars.

My only issue is how easy it will be for this old body to get in and out of.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:18 am

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 2):
See if you can find something chain driven, then a cam belt isn't a lifetime issue.

Toyota's are chain driven. Maintenance on their engine are fluids, filters, and plugs (well after 100K).

Class leading 10 Airbags.

Toyota Star Safety System.

High resale value.

Low Cost of Ownership.

Best Selling, and the most American made car sold in the US.

More Robotic Spot welds than any other comparable car.

Excellent Fuel Mileage.

2 Years FREE maintenance.

Industry leading voice recognition systems.

I can go on, but I think you get the point.....
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Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:07 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 4):
Toyota's are chain driven. Maintenance on their engine are fluids, filters, and plugs (well after 100K).

Not every single one.

But really we're heading to the same point lol.
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Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:15 pm

The Camry isn't a bad car, but it's a boring car and not particularly good looking. I'd rather have a Fusion.
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:10 pm

South Florida : what about a convertible ?
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:14 pm

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 6):
The Camry isn't a bad car, but it's a boring car and not particularly good looking. I'd rather have a Fusion.

This. The Camry is a solid but boring car. If that's what you want, nothing wrong with that. It will be reliable and last a long time.

Personally, I enjoy driving and would prefer a better driving car and a better looking car. My choice in that size/price would be a Mazda 6 with a standard transmission. Doesn't mean that's the right choice for everyone, just what I would probably buy.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:40 am

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 6):
The Camry isn't a bad car, but it's a boring car

  

This. Every person I know who has a company car drives a Camry, which says something. They are reliable and cost effective, but they are just about the most boring, conservative, unimaginative vehicle on the road.

Do yourself a favor and get something else.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:47 am

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 6):

I have always driven boring looking cars for cash that last a long time. Of course I would rather drive a Corvette or a BMW 650
but then I would have to get into financing or leasing the vehicle.

Quoting Aesma (Reply 7):

Didn't think about that...good idea.
 
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Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:44 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 9):

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 6):
The Camry isn't a bad car, but it's a boring car

  

This. Every person I know who has a company car drives a Camry, which says something. They are reliable and cost effective, but they are just about the most boring, conservative, unimaginative vehicle on the road.

Do yourself a favor and get something else.

Exactly, When I think Camry I think company or hire car. Nothing wrong with it, but it just is not inspiring. If you don't care about any of that though I'm sure it would make for a solid car.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:34 am

Avoid the 2009 model with the 'modified' accelerator pedal.



After reports of sticking accelerators Toyota's so called fix was to literally cut the pedal in half so
there would be no possibility of it getting caught in the floor mat.


You end up with an accelerator pedal less than half the normal size that is HYPERSENSITIVE. Very annoying, I wish I hadn't had this done and would not have if I knew what was involved.


Anyone have a similar experience and / or a solution ?!
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:29 am

Quoting Max Q (Reply 12):
You end up with an accelerator pedal less than half the normal size that is HYPERSENSITIVE. Very annoying, I wish I hadn't had this done and would not have if I knew what was involved.


Anyone have a similar experience and / or a solution ?!

Yea. You are so not right here. DOT determined it was not Toyota's fault but rather mat issues or user error.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ntended-acceleration-scare-feature

Toyota did the recall to help owners ease their concerns. And after that, Toyota implemented the Smart Stop Technology part of the Star Safety System that when the accelerator and brake are pressed at the same time the brake overrides the accelerator if they are pressed at the same time.

Time to move on from this myth.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:58 am

I had a Camry 2015 as a rental last year. It was very nice, I didn't really miss anything. The build quality was very good and I liked the layout of both the cabin and the electronics.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 12):
Anyone have a similar experience and / or a solution ?!

Buy a kit like this, I know this is for a manual but there should be some kits out there for automatics.

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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:00 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 9):
Do yourself a favor and get something else.

I feel I should expand on this point. Just to be clear, I'm not saying get a sports car or anything stupid like that. I'm just saying don't get a Camry.

If I was in the market for a mid-size sedan in the USA I would probably get a Chevy Malibu, but would seriously consider the Fusion.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:04 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 13):
Yea. You are so not right here. DOT determined it was not Toyota's fault but rather mat issues or user error.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ntended-acceleration-scare-feature

Toyota did the recall to help owners ease their concerns. And after that, Toyota implemented the Smart Stop Technology part of the Star Safety System that when the accelerator and brake are pressed at the same time the brake overrides the accelerator if they are pressed at the same time.

Time to move on from this myth.

Way to completely miss my point, I never thought there was an issue with the accelerator sticking and / or unintended acceleration.


I had the 'modification' done as a precaution not having any clue what they would actually do.


As I said, if I had known I would not have let Toyota do anything to the car.


Now I need to 'unmodify' it

Quoting larshjort (Reply 14):
Buy a kit like this, I know this is for a manual but there should be some kits out there for automatics.

Thanks for that lars but not quite what i'm looking for, what I need is a larger 'cover' to fit over the existing accelerator pedal.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:54 pm

Quoting Max Q (Reply 16):
Way to completely miss my point, I never thought there was an issue with the accelerator sticking and / or unintended acceleration.

You are right, I did miss your point. Sorry. It's just that this accelerator thing just keeps popping up and it wasn't the fault of Toyota. The fix was at least to help ease drivers minds, unlike Audi who just flat out said in the 80's when they were having issues that it was "stupid people who don't know how to drive." Took them years to recover, where Toyota, while not coming up with a perfect solution, did try to attempt to fix a problem that could occur due to user error. In the long term, it did result in the creation of the Smart Stop Technology now found in all of their cars US sold cars with the exception of the Mazda built Scion (soon to be Toyota) iA, which is called Brake Override System.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:48 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 17):
You are right, I did miss your point. Sorry. It's just that this accelerator thing just keeps popping up and it wasn't the fault of Toyota. The fix was at least to help ease drivers minds, unlike Audi who just flat out said in the 80's when they were having issues that it was "stupid people who don't know how to drive." Took them years to recover, where Toyota, while not coming up with a perfect solution, did try to attempt to fix a problem that could occur due to user error

I agree, i'm just very unhappy with the 'fix'


The accelerator now has basically a hairtrigger, incredibly sensitive and you have to keep your right leg tensed
up all the time actively 'holding' it in position. Frustrating and fatiguing.


Toyota wanted to make absolutely sure it couldn't stick and went way too far the other way with the 'loosest' accelerator
pedal imaginable.


You need some friction so you don't have maintain pressure all the time, very annoying, otherwise I like the car, I just
need to find a fix for the 'fix'
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:05 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 9):

This. Every person I know who has a company car drives a Camry, which says something. They are reliable and cost effective, but they are just about the most boring, conservative, unimaginative vehicle on the road.

Do yourself a favor and get something else.

What if he's not a car guy? I'm not a car guy. Planes and ships, yes, but I don't get to own those (yet).

Give me a reliable, safe, reliable, efficient, reliable car over a fun car that breaks down a lot and guzzles fuel any day.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:57 am

Owned several, they're great cars. I drove a 2016 a few weeks ago and it drove very nice. Standard backup camera and Bluetooth streaming too.
 
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Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:53 pm

I owned a Volvo (s40) last decade and the local dealer would give out Camry's as loaners when the Volvo went in for scheduled service. I used to joke with the service manager that the Camry was so boring, it was a struggle to stay awake long enough to make it out of the parking lot.

If you just need to get from point A to point B and don't require any stimulation from your transport, you can hardly go wrong with a Camry.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:00 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
a fun car that breaks down a lot and guzzles fuel any day.

Very few cars these days fit that description.

I do drive a Toyota product (Lexus). It's a good car, but it hasn't been trouble free.
 
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Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:38 pm

One of this month's car magazines has a test of this class.

1. Mazda 6
1. Chevy Malibu
3. Honda Accord
4. Toyota Camry

Though, I will note - after five years, what people really want is a Honda or a Toyota. Resale value tells the tale. Regardless of who wins the new car comparison test. Some cars are engineered to last 15 years, others are engineered to sell once.
 
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Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:11 pm

Mazda6 if you're an engaged driver and want a stick. If you prefer autos try the Accord V6. That's what I'm driving right now and it's a rocket sled disguised as a soccer mommy car. Nearly 280 horses that are just lovely in the passing lanes up to Tahoe. My dream is to cram the Accord engine into the Mazda6.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:51 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):

While I like cars and know my automobiles and trucks I would not consider myself a "car guy". I only drive about 25 miles a day
to work and on errands so a solid and reliable car is all I need and that I can pay cash for. I know it sounds very boring but it works for
me. If I needed to impress people in my professional and/or personal life I would certainly not hesitate to buy something with more
flash and excitement.
 
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Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:49 pm

I drive a 2015 Camry Hybrid. I'm 20,000 miles in with no complaints. Also getting 45 MPG kicks ass   
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Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:52 pm

I just switched over from a Mazda3 to a 2016 Honda Civic. Looks great on the outside, is bigger than past Civics, and I love the way it drives. I got the EX-T model with the 1.5L turbo engine.

I drove a Camry for work many, many times. Wouldn't be a bad option either.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:55 am

I do not like it! I have not like the Camry since Toyota's I too sexy commercial for the Camry, in 1999. I felt they was giving it too much credit. I know the commercial is over 15 years old, but I just never liked the car since then. I think a Honda Accord ( had mines since Black Friday 2004 ), Mazda 6 and Nissan Maxima, are better choices.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:32 am

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 2):
See if you can find something chain driven, then a cam belt isn't a lifetime issue.

Sadly, almost no one offers a true timing chain - most all manufacturers use a timing belt. One exception is my Infiniti Q45 and my Infiniti FX37 - those actually have bonafide timing *chains* for the V8 and V6 respectively.

I am all too familiar with the effects of a timing belt breaking at high RPM - a friend of mine had an older Acura Integra, high miles and a timing belt - it was not maintained well as it should have been - the dealer or any reputable mechanic shop would have told her that the belt needed replacing, but my friend being somewhat "mechanically aloof" and terminally short of cash (she is an elementary school teacher), ignored the issue after over 150K miles on the odometer - none of the belts had ever been replaced - the timing belt snapped at high RPMs and pretty much annihilated the upper engine block and the camshaft area (it was a 4-cyl DOHC 16-valve engine) - nothing to do at that point but to either replace the whole engine or just junk the car.
She chose the latter because she actually came out ahead selling the car to a parts chop-shop and was able to put a down payment on a Nissan Sentra.

Chain drive over Belts anytime!

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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:13 pm

Quoting nickh (Reply 29):

Fortunately my mechanic at the Firestone where I take my PT Cruiser was on top of things and he suggested that I replace
the timing belt when the car reached 90,000 miles which I did. It was expensive but cheaper than a repair or replacing the vehicle.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:37 pm

Quoting kstateinALB (Reply 27):
I got the EX-T model with the 1.5L turbo engine.

How is it? A new and noteworthy model. Fast? A Civic with big torque. Pretty cool.

Quoting nickh (Reply 29):
Chain drive over Belts anytime!

Agreed. T-belt cars are automatically worth $500-1000 less so I don't know why manufacturers do it.

The Ford 1.0L ecoboost (which IMO sounds like such a cool product!) has a timing belt bathed in oil. Supposedly lifetime. This really stews me because nothing is lifetime. They are just going to break after 10 years.

Same with "lifetime automatic transmission fluid." Bullcrap. Would you fly an airplane that never changes lubricant? Just wait until it grenades? I hate that attitude.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:49 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 31):
Same with "lifetime automatic transmission fluid." Bullcrap. Would you fly an airplane that never changes lubricant? Just wait until it grenades? I hate that attitude.

I think the Germans are pushing that, they can get away with it because they only sell their high-end goods here and can cover the costs of free maintenance. This is a growing trend to make the cars unserviceable by anybody outside the factory and a large part of the reason for their abysmal resale values.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:43 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 32):
This is a growing trend to make the cars unserviceable by anybody outside the factory and a large part of the reason for their abysmal resale values.

This is a great point. I love Honda cars but the dealerships are not Honda. The servicing is where they nail you and they make it tougher every year to get serviced at local service operators. Do your homework and certainly once you're past the primary warranties find an independent operator that has the diagnostic equipment to handle your vehicle. What I see more and more these days are specialized independents that only work certain brands, I'm even leery of these guys unless they check out on accreditations and consumer reviews.

Anyway, another reason to drive plain vanilla vehicles, you just have more options for downstream cost savings, and those can add up. I once saved $600 just taking my old Accord from SF Honda to Anderson Honda in Palo Alto.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:57 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 31):

Agreed. T-belt cars are automatically worth $500-1000 less so I don't know why manufacturers do it.

The Ford 1.0L ecoboost (which IMO sounds like such a cool product!) has a timing belt bathed in oil. Supposedly lifetime. This really stews me because nothing is lifetime. They are just going to break after 10 years

Which is why they have a 10 year / 150000 mile change interval.

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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:37 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 4):

Toyota's are chain driven. Maintenance on their engine are fluids, filters, and plugs (well after 100K).

Yes. Most cars are nowadays, especially given the trend toward longer warranties (though the latter isn't the case for Toyota).

Quoting UA444 (Reply 20):

Owned several, they're great cars. I drove a 2016 a few weeks ago and it drove very nice. Standard backup camera and Bluetooth streaming too.

There's nothing wrong with and a lot to like about Camries. Their road manners are decent, and they handle rush hours without brutalising their occupants (as a resident of Los Angeles this comes in far ahead of any fantasies about sedans being high performance machinery).

There are only two reasons I wouldn't buy one, and neither are knock against the vehicle itself.
Firstly, I find them to be a bit overpriced for what they are. I can actually get a Sonata that does everything a Camry does (factoring comparable options) for several thousand less. Safety ratings are equal, overal reliability favours Hyundai, efficencies are a hair better, and interior spacing is also the same (larger in the trunk for the Sonata). Same again WRT the Optima.

The second is that I think Toyota (and you too Honda) really need to get with the times where warranties are concerned. 3/36 doesn't impress anyone now and if their reliablity is what they claim, there should be no problem with 10/100.

I realise you can get extended warranties for Toyota products, but way of comparison, my Hyundai warranty went from 10/100 to life of the vehicle at no add'l cost to me (yes, there are conditions, but they are easy to live with).

In any case, no, nothing wrong the Camry. It's a good car at fair going to high price, but solid. It's just that their cousins from across the Sea of Japan have really brought out their A-game over the last decade or so...

Quoting nickh (Reply 29):

Sadly, almost no one offers a true timing chain - most all manufacturers use a timing belt

Eh? That was certainly true 10 years ago, but most of what I shopped recently had gone back to chains (for obvious and good reasons) since about 5 or 6 years ago. You can find belt driven motors, but they're the minority now. It's quickly going the way of the standard transmission.

Quoting nickh (Reply 29):

I am all too familiar with the effects of a timing belt breaking at high RPM - a friend of mine had an older Acura Integra, high miles and a timing belt - it was not maintained well as it should have been - the dealer or any reputable mechanic shop would have told her that the belt needed replacing, but my friend being somewhat "mechanically aloof" and terminally short of cash (she is an elementary school teacher), ignored the issue after over 150K miles on the odometer - none of the belts had ever been replaced - the timing belt snapped at high RPMs and pretty much annihilated the upper engine block and the camshaft area (it was a 4-cyl DOHC 16-valve engine) - nothing to do at that point but to either replace the whole engine or just junk the car.

This Absolutely happens with belts, yes. Which is why I'm not a fan of those. It comes from having interfernce engines and it is the sudden popularity of these that has caused belts to lose favor.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:12 am

Quoting nickh (Reply 29):
Sadly, almost no one offers a true timing chain - most all manufacturers use a timing belt.

Wrong. Sorry, but you are. Toyota for one uses chains. Both the 2.5 4Cyl and the 3.5 V6 certainly have Timing CHAINS. So your Infinity cars aren't the "exception." While you are at it, you might want to check the reliability ratings of those cars vs just about any Toyota. Infinity are some of the WORST.

Quoting darksnowynight (Reply 35):
Eh? That was certainly true 10 years ago, but most of what I shopped recently had gone back to chains (for obvious and good reasons) since about 5 or 6 years ago. You can find belt driven motors, but they're the minority now. It's quickly going the way of the standard transmission.

True. Again, check the reliability of the Nissan/Infinity CVT's.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:19 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 36):
Infinity are some of the WORST.

First, "Infiniti" is spelled with an "I", not a "Y", but that said, yes. I do agree that the original (Gen-1) Infiniti Q45 was notorious for overheating and other issues with the fuel injection system -- if you looked at the intake manifold on the first-gen cars, it was a bizarre transverse type design that then flowed into the longitudinal V-8 motor -- why they did that is a mystery, but that, along with the fact that it did not have a full radiator grille (remember the huge "weird looking Badge" on the front of the very sharply inclined nose) - all the cooling had to come from below the front bumper and the smallish grille which shared space with the main radiator and the transmission oil cooler.

After the second generation Q45 (I own 2 of these) and the third generation Q45 (the one with the "Gatling Gun headlights"), the reliability was vastly improved, mainly due to exterior redesigns to promote better cooling, the internal plumbing for the oil and coolants conduits, which were redesigned with the VH41DE and 3rd-gen VH45 series engines, reliability was up to par with Lexus/Toyota.

My daily driver, the second gen Q45t Anniversary Edition is identical to the Japan Domestic Market "Nissan President" (ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infiniti_Q45#/media/File:Q45t_front.jpg) -- it uses the venerable chain driven VH41DE 4.1 liter DOHC 32-valve V8 that Nissan uses in a lot of their JDM cars and is proven and extremely reliable.

I will give you that I was a bit too hasty in stating that motors with chain drive timing are rare - this is of course not completely accurate, but is more the norm than it is not. My old Toyota Previa and Toyota Cressida come to mind...


Everyone's mileage varies, of course - I could make a Volvo crap out in a year*, if ti is not taken care of, and make a Yugo last for 25-years with meticulous care...

-Nick

* My cousin had a circa 1988 Volvo DL - the typical, boxy sedan of those days. From day ONE, it was nothing but trouble - (we nicknamed it "Christine" - ref: the Stephen King movie of the car possessed).
That Volvo, which was purchased new, had just about everything wrong with it - the electrical system had two shorts in it, one which caused it to suddenly go dead completely, at random. The main engine gaskets leaked oil into the combustion chambers. The thing blew smoke like a chimney, at about 275 miles on the odometer!
The inside door seals fell off. The radio would quit working randomly (related to the aforementioned electrical issues).
Finally, the dealer just got tired of fixing it and gave her a replacement Volvo GL sedan, just to end the fiasco...
"We all have wings, but some of us don't know why..."
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:32 am

Quoting darksnowynight (Reply 35):
I can actually get a Sonata that does everything a Camry does

We have always had good luck with Toyota, but my wife's Sonata is a POS IMO. It has what is supposed to be a "sports suspension" that is so bad I refuse to drive the car and fight to avoid riding as a pax. One bad tire that the dealer couldn't be bothered to take care of on the weekend (but local tire dealers were happy to) and a bad break light switch that meant I had to stomp on it hard three times before the car would start.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:41 am

I'd suggest a Honda. Very good cars and little history of mishaps and recalls.

Quoting wingman (Reply 24):
Mazda6 if you're an engaged driver and want a stick. If you prefer autos try the Accord V6. That's what I'm driving right now and it's a rocket sled disguised as a soccer mommy car.

I love my Accord! It's a 2003 and it screams and is very low maintenance! The most major thing I've had to do to it since I bought it (2 years ago), is replace the tires.
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:38 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 39):
I love my Accord! It's a 2003 and it screams and is very low maintenance! The most major thing I've had to do to it since I bought it (2 years ago), is replace the tires.

My Accord, is also great! It is a 2005, ( even though I bought it on Black Fridays 2004 ) well this car has only an inline 4, but if I hit the fuel, it will jet down the road, so it can only imagine how fast a V6 model, would run.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:03 am

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Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Never stopped being a good car.

But as others have said, there are probably some more interesting cars out there. However, you can't really beat a Camry on reliability and resale value. The new one looks quite sharp too.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:51 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 31):
How is it? A new and noteworthy model. Fast? A Civic with big torque. Pretty cool.

Fantastic. Has a ton of tech, including Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. Love driving it in general. The new model looks great and to be honest, doesn't feel like a Civic as much as it does an Accord.

It can really get up and go on the highway, even with the CVT. I would've taken a look at the coupe if it was out yet, but I'm very, very pleased with the sedan.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:59 pm

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 36):
Wrong. Sorry, but you are. Toyota for one uses chains. Both the 2.5 4Cyl and the 3.5 V6 certainly have Timing CHAINS. So your Infinity cars aren't the "exception." While you are at it, you might want to check the reliability ratings of those cars vs just about any Toyota. Infinity are some of the WORST.
Quoting nickh (Reply 37):
First, "Infiniti" is spelled with an "I", not a "Y",

  

Yeah, a lot of manufacturers are moving over to chains. But, Nissan/Infiniti has been big on that for years...everything I've owned made by them has been a chain. (SR20DET, KA24DE, VQ35DE and others) My Toyota experience has been mostly belts (4A-GE, 1/2JZ, 7M-GTE, etc)

In terms of reliability, my G35 coupe (Skyline 350GT for those of you in Japan) has been dead reliable, and is currently at 145,xxxkm or so, and it's not driven gently.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:22 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
What if he's not a car guy? I'm not a car guy. Planes and ships, yes, but I don't get to own those (yet).

Give me a reliable, safe, reliable, efficient, reliable car over a fun car that breaks down a lot and guzzles fuel any day.

Amen to that. I could give a damn about my car. Sure, I could go out and buy a BMW or Lexus or whatever, but I drive a 2003 Accord with 173,000 miles on it. Why? Because I travel a lot, work near my house when I am actually in the office, and bike to work half the time. I am rarely in my car, so when it's time to get a new one (admittedly soon), I will probably get another Accord or a Camry and run it 13-15 more years. Rinse and repeat.
 
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RE: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:10 am

Quoting diverted (Reply 43):
eah, a lot of manufacturers are moving over to chains. But, Nissan/Infiniti has been big on that for years...everything I've owned made by them has been a chain. (SR20DET, KA24DE, VQ35DE and others) My Toyota experience has been mostly belts (4A-GE, 1/2JZ, 7M-GTE, etc)

80s and 90s Toyota moved to belts for most of their vehicles due to belts being quieter. But All of the engines you had were non interference engines, meaning no damage will happen if the belt breaks. If you lose your timing belt on your Honda, you're SOL.
 
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Re: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:40 pm

I own a 2005 PT Cruiser with about 108,000 miles that runs great (I do preventative maintenance) that I drive about 25 miles a day to and from work. Basically the vehicle is driven only about 40 minutes in a 24 hour period...LOL
 
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Re: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:05 am

It's an appliance. If you want a car that is reliable and invisible, it's the car for you.
 
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Re: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:04 am

There are several good cars in this class dfwjim1. I would encourage you to not only look at the Camry, but test drive an Accord and a Mazada6 as well. Even the Ford Fusion is a good car. If it were me, I'd do a test of all the cars in it's related segment and go from there. As far as reliability goes, the Mazada6 and Camry rank at the top of the class.

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Re: Toyota Camry - Still A Good Car?

Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:28 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
Hi all,

I am looking into buying a new used car in 2017 to replace my 2005 PT Cruiser and one of the vehicles I am considering is
a Toyota Camry, years 2014 - 2016. I have heard good things about the Camry but wanted to got your opinions on those of you
who own or have owned a Camry. BTW I drive about 25 miles a day and live in South Florida.

Thank you for your assistance.


Do you really need the extra size of the Camry vs your current PT Cruiser?

Get something smaller (an equally boring Corolla, for example), it will drive better and will be less thirsty.

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