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331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:10 am

A certain Eric Oborski has a passport with 331 pages in it... which, although I have seen some serious travelers, may honestly be the largest passport I have ever seen or even heard of.

The picture of all his passports stacked up is quite an amazing sight for anyone who loves to travel.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel...-man-largest-us-passport-180958024
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:26 am

That is a lot of miles. I cannot even imagine how he accomplished it. I wonder if there were any serious mishaps doing all that moving around with aircraft etc. ?
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:35 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 1):

The classic "going to Tokyo for a quick dinner"... seems like he used to get a ton of free flights which probably helped. Filling up 331 pages before a passport expired - the only possible way I could imagine filling it that quickly was HK-based workers traveling to Macau, Taiwan, and China, and even then 331 pages would be difficult.
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:44 am

Quoting Elite (Reply 2):
the only possible way I could imagine filling it that quickly was HK-based workers traveling to Macau, Taiwan, and China, and even then 331 pages would be difficult.

I use Taiwan's e-Gates now ... I haven't had a Taiwan stamp in my passport since early in 2014. Interestingly, I went to Macau in February 2014, and I didn't get a Macau stamp either, just a piece of paper that wasn't even stapled into my passport.

This lack of stamps has had some unexpected consequences though ... especially when dealing with my bank!
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:54 am

Quoting BreninTW (Reply 3):

I guess those days are coming to an end too, as in addition to what you have mentioned, the PRC is also relaxing their visa rules...

But then again, sadly, they seem to be phasing out stamps altogether.
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:56 am

Interesting. Stamps in a passport are a nice thing, as they bring up memories of past travels...

Quick question: How do air crews do it? Do they get special visas?


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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:03 pm

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 5):
Quick question: How do air crews do it? Do they get special visas?

I have heard from air crew friends that their passports don't even get stamped when they go through immigration.
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:00 pm

Just out of interest, what countries have large stamps and stamp on entry/exit?
The US only stamps people coming in, never on departure. They aren't too picky how they stamp either. Sometimes USCs won't get an immigration stamp at all.
Japan has an entry/exit stamp, and usually they put the two next to each other. Very systematic.
Indonesia's single entry visa sticker takes up an entire page.
UK immigration stamps are only on arrival, and usually faded.
Schengen stamps on entry/exit, but each country has it's own style. The richer countries seem to have a habit of stamping legibly, next to each other, whereas certain countries (Greece, Italy) usually issue unclear, illogical stamps.
UAE will issue entry/exit stamps plus a special annotation 'valid for 30 days' for visitors.
Egypt issues a visa sticker (either a proper pre-arrival visa or on-arrival entry visa sticker) and immigration will put two large-ish stamps on entry and exit.

Each country has its own stamping policy/style in terms of the stamp itself and how they are spaced out. All these factors determine how fast a passport is used up.

I imagine it is harder for an EU national, for example, to fill up their passport, as they don't get stamped at all in Europe. They would have to do a lot of traveling to countries that issue visa stickers (India, China, Indonesia etc.) to fill up a 52-page passport.
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:26 pm

Quoting directorguy (Reply 7):

Not necessarily the most up-to-date, but a good list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_passport_stamps_by_country_or_territory
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:00 pm

Remember American Airlines, they had the brilliant idea to sell lifetime air passes for unlimited first class travel.
and of course they lost their shirt on the deal. I suspect this guy bought one of those passes that would explain how he filled up that passport.

anyway, the pass was good for one person plus a companion of their choice, who could be a different person each time.the past cost 250k which seems like a lot of money back then, but these days a round trip ticket to London about 15k so this pass really was a bargain. Plus on top of that they were giving them frequent flyer miles for each trip.

Clueless they sold these passes for years not realizing they were losing their shirts on the deal. Then in 1993 they started to wise up and raised the cost to 1 million dollars. People were still buying them. Shocked at the popularity someone finally took the time to do the math and they immediately stopped selling them. Anyway back in 2007 they started putting a price to each person who had a pass and they found out that several of the pass owners were flying so much that it was costing them a million dollars a year in loss revenue.

[Edited 2016-03-11 05:10:16]
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:21 pm

Quoting directorguy (Reply 7):
I imagine it is harder for an EU national, for example, to fill up their passport, as they don't get stamped at all in Europe.

The way I filled mine out was by regularly visiting a lot of those countries that need a full page visa thing: Russia, Saudi Arabia, Angola, Sudan, Nigeria, etc.
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:18 pm

Quoting JJJ (Reply 10):
The way I filled mine out was by regularly visiting a lot of those countries that need a full page visa thing: Russia, Saudi Arabia, Angola, Sudan, Nigeria, etc.

I see what you did there.

Quoting DLFREEBIRD (Reply 9):

Crazy... yes, it's a bargain for quite a lot people who earn well above average. Reminds me of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_free_flights_promotion ...


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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:31 pm

i hadn't heard of that. I did hear about the guy who bought 1.25 million airline miles by buying pudding.

http://www.snopes.com/business/deals/pudding.asp

i think he inspired the plot in Punch Drunk Love.

[Edited 2016-03-11 13:31:55]
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:40 am

I'm surprised State allowed him to add that many.
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:02 am

Quoting directorguy (Reply 7):
The US only stamps people coming in, never on departure. They aren't too picky how they stamp either.

From my experience the USA, Australia and the UK are the worst at stamping. The lazy pricks at passport control just open your passport to a random page and stamp right in the middle - and up side down - effectively wasting a full page that could be used for a visa label. I have noticed that passport control officers in Asian countries try to keep the stamps in order starting from the first page - also - if they see a tiny space that is just big enough for the stamp to fit - they will use it - instead of just throwing the passport open to the last page and stamping the middle of the thing!

I had to get additional pages put into my last passport because there were no full pages left for visa labels as a result of the way the dumb yanks wasted entire pages with their stamping technique...
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:06 pm

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 14):

Did not know that Australia stamps its citizens in and out.
Indeed, the consensus is that Asian countries are much more organised and manage the space efficiently.
One trick is to put your landing card/customs declaration inside the passport at the page where you want the officer to stamp. Usually they take the hint.
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:26 pm

Quoting directorguy (Reply 15):
Did not know that Australia stamps its citizens in and out.

That has now ended, available only upon request.

Quoting directorguy (Reply 15):
Indeed, the consensus is that Asian countries are much more organised and manage the space efficiently.

Thailand, Japan, Taiwan -- in my experience, they will neatly stamp under previous entry/exit stamps from their countries.
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:13 am

Quoting directorguy (Reply 15):
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 14):

Did not know that Australia stamps its citizens in and out.

They used to. Not anymore - unless you ask them to (sometimes I need it as proof of the date for work reasons so I request a stamp)...

Quoting directorguy (Reply 15):
Indeed, the consensus is that Asian countries are much more organised and manage the space efficiently.

  

That organized / common sense approach really helps when you do a lot of traveling.

Quoting directorguy (Reply 15):
One trick is to put your landing card/customs declaration inside the passport at the page where you want the officer to stamp. Usually they take the hint.

I always do that. Sadly, most Western stamp pushers don't get the hint from my experience. I suspect sometimes they forget what page I put it in because they usually pull it out and then scan the bio data page, flip through the other pages to inspect, etc... Then finally they select one lucky, random, page as far towards the back as possible and stamp up-side-down - even on the spine between two totally empty pages!
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:50 pm

A French officer at CDG recently stamped the "observations" page of my passport (I think where the Canadian government would put relevant information). A bit annoying...
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:17 pm

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 18):
A French officer at CDG recently stamped the "observations" page of my passport (I think where the Canadian government would put relevant information). A bit annoying...

Were you aware of it at the time? Did you say anything?
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:41 pm

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 19):
Were you aware of it at the time? Did you say anything?

I was past the booth when I noticed it. What could it have really done by saying anything, though?

Are there any consequences of having this area stamped?
 
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RE: 331 Pages In A Passport(!)

Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:37 pm

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 20):
Are there any consequences of having this area stamped?

I'm not sure.

I've seen passports with small wording on the top or bottom of the observations page saying something to the effect of "do not stamp this page / this page not to be used for visas / leave this page blank" etc...

I doubt a stamp pusher would really care, but technically, who knows...
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