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Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:08 pm

I am interested to hear others thoughts on the impact of a President Trump on US air travel but please do not make this into a thread arguing about Donald Trump.

I had not heard very much anti US rhetoric in many many years here in Canada and abroad since Obama took over from George Bush but it appears from talking to many people here that it is starting to ramp up again due to Trump. I have to wonder are Canadians in general, specifically Muslim Canadians and other races living in Canada at the moment likely to avoid the US and travel to other places now due to the things Trump has said? The Canadian media here certainly does not seem to like him one bit and is doing all they can to portray him negatively. If it is like that here I can only imagine what it is like in countries such as India, Indonesia and the Middle East. Could we see the ME3 slow down U.S expansion due to decreased travel demand from the Middle East and India to USA?

On the other hand, Hungary has elected a president who many compare to Donald Trump. I imagine in that case he is viewed much more favorably by the people of Hungary and that should at least keep traffic flows between the US and Hungary the same or grow them. The Russian media also seems to see Donald Trump quite favorably so maybe traffic flows between Russia and the US could pick up quite a bit under a president Trump.

Lastly I imagine many people from Mexico may be choosing to spend their tourist dollars in other places due to this rhetoric. I know many people in Mexico and not one has anything good at all to say about the US right now due to Donald Trump. What are the current statistics saying about tourist flows worldwide to the United States and how do you think these may change under a President Trump?
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:18 pm

Maybe Trump would talk Boeing into reviving the 757 too   .
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:20 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
please do not make this into a thread arguing about Donald Trump.

Best of luck  .
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:31 pm

Your thread itself contradicts your request. To make sense of Drumpf's impact on civil aviation we would have to determine what Drumpf is likely to do in office. That involves arguing about him.

Personally, I think he would have a negative effect on every U.S. business that involves cross-border trade, which certainly includes aviation. That's partly because he's far more protectionist than any president we've had in any of our lifetimes, and partly because he's such a buffoon that he will badly hurt the reputation of the United States and the wish of people abroad to engage in business with it.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:15 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
Personally, I think he would have a negative effect on every U.S. business that involves cross-border trade, which certainly includes aviation.

+1

Too unpredictable and unstable.



I trust Obama to take more or less a reasonable action. He might not get it right, or even near to right, but I don't think he'd get it dangerously wrong either.

I didn't really trust Dubya to do the same.

I did trust Clinton and GW Bush.

Reagan I was too young to really appraise.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:18 pm

I'm flying to NYC this weekend for an east coast holiday. If Trump would have been President I would have cancelled that trip. I imagine I wouldn't be the only one so I guess it would make a difference.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:21 pm

How exactly can we discuss ANYTHING related to Trump (or Clinton or Sanders) without the political aspect of it ? Any speculation about its effects to aviation and bilaterals will all stem from their political views and support.

This isn't the good ole' days where we can actually discuss the financial and operational performance of the Trump Shuttle in the northeast as a standalone business entity.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:35 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
I am interested to hear others thoughts on the impact of a President Trump on US air travel but please do not make this into a thread arguing about Donald Trump.

Ok, but then you say:

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
had not heard very much anti US rhetoric in many many years here in Canada and abroad since Obama took over from George Bush but it appears from talking to many people here that it is starting to ramp up again due to Trump. I have to wonder are Canadians in general, specifically Muslim Canadians and other races living in Canada at the moment likely to avoid the US and travel to other places now due to the things Trump has said?

So which is it? And frankly who cares what impact Trump is going to have on the airline industry (negligible at best)?
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:36 pm

Well, the theory goes that wages for US workers would increase. This would drive a broad based increase in US air travel. The international part of US air travel is a small minority of the total. Some of the VFR aspect of US international travel by visiting professionals would decrease.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:43 pm

Good grief! Why would a President Trump make any difference. No matter who the U.S. president is, the country essentially stays the same. Because Donald Trump is somewhat of a character doesn't change that. And I would seriously doubt anybody from outside the U.S. considering a trip to the U.S. would change their plans solely because the president was Donald Trump. If so, good riddance.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:56 pm

Its going to be TREMENDOUS! It'll be great! You know air travel where people fly all over the place they need to do it more, but not Mexico. That Anderson good guy friend of mine. But yes air travel will be tremendous, and passengers are going to start WINNING upgrades again! We are going to make air travel great again.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:59 pm

It was interesting that the original poster said they didn't want the thread to become a political discussion, then promptly launched into their own political discussion.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:09 pm

First of all I think it is relatively unlikely that he will win. Still hasn't won the majority of the Republican vote let alone the National vote.

Second of all, it might sound really scary right now, and it is, but what would end up changing policy-wise isn't going to be overnight or as sweeping as some make out. This is largely rhetoric to court a certain part of the electorate and once the general election starts and he needs to appeal to moderates then even his language will change.

If Pen was the leader of France it wouldn't make me not want to visit Paris.

Erdogan has offended many in the west but it really doesn't impact my interest in Istanbul.

I don't see this as being that impactful and is even unlikely to begin with.

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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:24 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 12):

  

Nailed it right down to the comparison to Erdogan which I almost made a quick reply about earlier.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:48 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
I am interested to hear others thoughts on the impact of a President Trump on US air travel

I expect o see a lot of one-way traffic exiting the country...   

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 12):
If Pen was the leader of France it wouldn't make me not want to visit Paris. Erdogan has offended many in the west but it really doesn't impact my interest in Istanbul. I don't see this as being that impactful and is even unlikely to begin with.

Excellent examples. Unless he actually believes his own rhetoric - and follows through on some of his more drastic election-year "promises" - I wouldn't expect any substantial ellect on travel. Certainly, there may be some foreign citizens who will believe that the USA has become an unwelcoming country, but most won't be bothered.

On the other hand, if he has more crazy ideas he hasn't mentioned yet ("Sell the National Parks to the highest bidder!" "Tear down that stupid statue in the middle of New York's harbor and let's bring bigger ships - make our port great again!"), then... who knows???
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:52 pm

Quoting superjeff (Reply 9):

You do have a point. I don't agree with the Chinese government's restrictions on free speech, but that doesn't keep me from going on holiday there.

My image of the US government might change if he is elected, not my image of the US. I think most Europeans who disagree with him would understand that. Besides, as an aviation enthusiast, nothing will stop me from making it to LAX or JFK. So many great airports to observe the traffic at!
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:53 pm

Can we have a thread on the effect of a Hillary presidency too?
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:08 pm

Great article in the times about Trump that I think has a lot of play here. Tom Friedman for those who know:

just google: Only trump can trump trump


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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:42 pm

"Air traffic controllers are all unionized losers! Sell 'em all to the lowest bidder! That's how we make winners and make the air traffic control system great!"... and that will cause some chaos, especially as it pertains to traffic flow in congested airspace when you've got sickouts and such happening, and military ATC guys are called in to make up for the shortfall during the transition...

Personally, I don't think Trump is nearly as 'crazy' as he portrays himself to be. He's a showman putting on a show to garner the votes to obtain the job he wants. And when he gets that job, he'll probably be the pragmatic businessman he has had to be in order to have the success he's had.

So, we'd just have an egocentric President, who I suspect is a closet socialist, so I actually don't think a Trump presidency would be the end of the United States. It might actually be a good thing. That wall to Mexico will never be built. The immigration plans will never come to pass.

Now, if Trump ends up building a paramilitary group that primarily wears brown shirts and answers to him outside of the normal military chain of command, I'll start worrying about air traffic flows in and out of this country... but until then, worry is premature.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:44 pm

Quoting superjeff (Reply 9):
Good grief! Why would a President Trump make any difference. No matter who the U.S. president is, the country essentially stays the same. Because Donald Trump is somewhat of a character doesn't change that. And I would seriously doubt anybody from outside the U.S. considering a trip to the U.S. would change their plans solely because the president was Donald Trump. If so, good riddance.

This. 100%.

If Trump gets elected, there will be plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth, from both inside and outside the country. That'll settle down after a few weeks and things will return to "normal."
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:52 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 16):
Can we have a thread on the effect of a Hillary presidency too?

Or Bernie...or Cruz...or Kasich...
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:56 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
mpact of a President Trump on US air travel

Trump has promised to build a giant wall along the Mexican border. That will mean less flow of people across land borders which is good for aviation! On the down side maybe Mexicans will be less likely to visit.

But overall I doubt you'll see much change. By the time the federal beaurocracy slows him down, and Congress gives him a reality check on what he can do, (and lets not forget the Republican Conservatives are unlikely to be in favour of his policies), I doubt he'll change much in aviation. He has bigger fish to fry.

Quoting Osubuckeyes (Reply 10):
Its going to be TREMENDOUS! It'll be great! You know air travel where people fly all over the place they need to do it more, but not Mexico. That Anderson good guy friend of mine. But yes air travel will be tremendous, and passengers are going to start WINNING upgrades again! We are going to make air travel great again.

haha that's hilarious!
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:09 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):

I had this same topic and the same pleas of no politics and the thread was deleted. Best of luck.

I do think the effect on the ME3 of a Muslim restriction would be significant. I don't think it would impact the US3 very much.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:48 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
I am interested to hear others thoughts on the impact of a President Trump on US air travel but please do not make this into a thread arguing about Donald Trump

It's very simple and easy to measure. If he is elected and indeed is successful at temporarily banning all Muslims from entering the US, you can subtract whatever amount of Muslims are entering now from the total and they will not be entering during the temporary ban.

Quoting alfa164 (Reply 14):
I expect o see a lot of one-way traffic exiting the country...

That would be awesome, especially if we are talking about Angelinos. I miss the days of being able to navigate LA when the gridlock was manageable. Think how much more pleasant big cities would be today if enough people would leave the US. I am talking about random people too, not just those who dislike Trump.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:57 pm

I think a Trump presidency would have a very positive effect on the number of one-way flights out of the United States.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:06 pm

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 24):
I think a Trump presidency would have a very positive effect on the number of one-way flights out of the United States.

If Trump wins, LGA-YYZ would become a refugee shuttle, and if Cruz wins, Canada/US would become open border like Schengen. =)
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:07 pm

Quoting afcjets (Reply 23):
If he is elected and indeed is successful at temporarily banning all Muslims from entering the US, you can subtract whatever amount of Muslims are entering now from the total and they will not be entering during the temporary ban.
Quoting afcjets (Reply 23):
That would be awesome, especially if we are talking about Angelinos. I miss the days of being able to navigate LA when the gridlock was manageable. Think how much more pleasant big cities would be today if enough people would leave the US.

I like how you think this is all a good and positive thing. The party of strict Constitutionalists, ladies and gentlemen. Where the rules suddenly do not apply if you can exploit and benefit from it.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:20 pm

Quoting Siren (Reply 18):
And when he gets that job, he'll probably be the pragmatic businessman he has had to be in order to have the success he's had.

See, I think this is where people go wrong ... I htink he's a lousy businessman, just like 95% of the salesmen I've worked with over the years. I think he just does sales and mostly lets other people sweep up behind him. That's how sales works pretty much everywhere else, and I've seen no evidence that he's any different.

In any case, I wouldn't expect a Drumpf win to have any long term effect. Maybe a short term slow-down until people can see what he actually does with the office.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:21 pm

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 26):
I like how you think this is all a good and positive thing. The party of strict Constitutionalists, ladies and gentlemen. Where the rules suddenly do not apply if you can exploit and benefit from it.

I only said the second quote was a good thing, and only how it would improve traffic in big cities, not really meant to be taken seriously, because despite countless promises by celebrities, not one to date has moved out of the US when candidate X was elected.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:27 pm

Quoting afcjets (Reply 28):
not one to date has moved out of the US when candidate X was elected.

Not true there were people that fled the George W. Bush administration and countries like Guatemala and Costa Rica are full of expat fundamentalist Christian Americans fleeting what they feel is "Christian persecution" in the USA.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:30 pm

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 29):

Name of the celebrity that left the US when and because Bush was elected?
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:38 pm

Trump would upgrade some terminals at US airports. I bet there would be some new airport building projects.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:38 pm

Well, if he will be tightening stuff like ESTA, Visa waivers etc., there is no doubt that tourist traffic will be hit. I know quite a few people who cannot be bothered to travel to an US embassy only to spend a long weekend in New York or a week in Florida.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:42 pm

Quoting afcjets (Reply 30):

Name of the celebrity that left the US when and because Bush was elected?

I said people have fled America, you decided to make the qualification only celebrities.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:51 pm

Quoting rockyracoon (Reply 31):

Very interesting point actually. From what I have heard it sounds like he would make upgrading infrastructure a big part of his presidency. I imagine then we could see some impressive new airport and railway projects.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:51 pm

Quoting alfa164 (Reply 14):
I expect o see a lot of one-way traffic exiting the country...   

Ironically the same ones that said they were leaving in 2004 when Bush was re-elected.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:05 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
What are the current statistics saying about tourist flows worldwide to the United States and how do you think these may change under a President Trump?

I think this is a good topic but let me expand it even more. While I refuse to tune in to this horrible human being speak, I have read many articles on his claims and policies.

What aviation in America should worry about isn't a loss of tourists, or even people fleeing. What aviation should worry about is a President Trump thinking he can enact tariffs and rip up or re-write trade deals. This would not only hurt Boeing and also smaller aircraft companies in America, but American airlines would suddenly find themselves the target of retaliatory measures and a loss of aviation agreements with other countries. This could be devastating to the aviation industry (as well as what is left of manufacturing, etc as no amount of protectionism will really bring back a strong manufacturing base no matter how hard his supporters wish it)

I find it puzzling his supporters were the ones cheering on trade deals, globalization, tax cuts for corporations and the rich, creating "right to work states" and oppressing unions and worker's rights, but now they are finding out what happens in a society that does this, without accepting they were the people responsible. Bizarrely they are now blaming liberals and the Democratic party for the loss of manufacturing jobs and high wages.

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 35):

Ironically the same ones that said they were leaving in 2004 when Bush was re-elected.

I assure you this number is half that of all the right wing celebrities who were going to leave after Obama was elected. One musician who boasted he would either be dead or in jail and that time has long passed comes to mind.

[Edited 2016-03-09 15:10:00]
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:35 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Reply 34):
I imagine then we could see some impressive new airport and railway projects.

With LGA at the top of the list.   
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:39 pm

Quoting chrisp390 (Reply 34):
Very interesting point actually. From what I have heard it sounds like he would make upgrading infrastructure a big part of his presidency. I imagine then we could see some impressive new airport and railway projects.

Gotta fix all the aging bridges and tunnels first
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:39 pm

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 36):
Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 35):

Ironically the same ones that said they were leaving in 2004 when Bush was re-elected.

I assure you this number is half that of all the right wing celebrities who were going to leave after Obama was elected. One musician who boasted he would either be dead or in jail and that time has long passed comes to mind.

Lol that you think there are enough "right wing celebrities" to even equal half of the lefties in Hollywood.

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 36):
What aviation should worry about is a President Trump thinking he can enact tariffs and rip up or re-write trade deals.

A President Trump or President Anyone cannot unilaterally enact tariffs or rip up trade deals, which is why these types of discussions are moot. There's this little thing called Congress and the judiciary who also have an equal and varied say in the affairs of the country. The President, unless he can get Congress to go along lock-step, is pretty much limited in power to the executive branch--though thanks to GWB and Obama that boundary has gotten very blurry--and thus his effect on the day-to-day running of the country and long-term trajectory is very limited. It was purposefully designed to be that way.

Quoting Osubuckeyes (Reply 10):
Its going to be TREMENDOUS! It'll be great! You know air travel where people fly all over the place they need to do it more, but not Mexico. That Anderson good guy friend of mine. But yes air travel will be tremendous, and passengers are going to start WINNING upgrades again! We are going to make air travel great again.

      You win the internet today!
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:45 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 16):
Can we have a thread on the effect of a Hillary presidency too?

Good point!
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:45 pm

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 29):
countries like Guatemala and Costa Rica are full of expat fundamentalist Christian Americans fleeting what they feel is "Christian persecution" in the USA.


"Full of" is certainly an exaggeration. Maybe a few here and there as anecdotes, but certainly not a "huge" number.

The chances of Trump actually doing all of this are similar to the chances that I will fly 10 intercontinental F flights every week for the rest of my life.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:49 pm

Drumpf would almost certainly create major problems for US business.
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:35 am

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
I have to wonder are Canadians in general, specifically Muslim Canadians and other races living in Canada at the moment likely to avoid the US and travel to other places now due to the things Trump has said?

I'm not Canadian, but I see lots of Muslims at U.S. airports, either visiting America or returning home to Texas from VFR or business in Europe or Asia.

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
The Canadian media here certainly does not seem to like him one bit and is doing all they can to portray him negatively.

Neither does the European media and they do the same. I don't see how it impacts air travel though.

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
Could we see the ME3 slow down U.S expansion due to decreased travel demand from the Middle East and India to USA?

No, quite the opposite, irrespective of whether a socialist, Trump, or someone in between wins the general elections.

Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
On the other hand, Hungary has elected a president who many compare to Donald Trump. I imagine in that case he is viewed much more favorably by the people of Hungary and that should at least keep traffic flows between the US and Hungary the same or grow them. The Russian media also seems to see Donald Trump quite favorably so maybe traffic flows between Russia and the US could pick up quite a bit under a president Trump.

The U.S. isn't Venezuela. Cuban air travel aside, very few flights are impacted by political decisions made by U.S. leadership. MA isn't going to come back, and Americans won't flock to MOW all of a sudden because the Donald wins. Maybe more Canadian flights, but on the other hand that could just be a general desire to travel more  
Quoting chrisp390 (Thread starter):
Lastly I imagine many people from Mexico may be choosing to spend their tourist dollars in other places due to this rhetoric. I know many people in Mexico and not one has anything good at all to say about the US right now due to Donald Trump. What are the current statistics saying about tourist flows worldwide to the United States and how do you think these may change under a President Trump?

It's a bunch of hot air. Trump has already reversed his stance on H1Bs, employs plenty of illegals (like most businesses) and mind you tourists aren't illegal immigrants, they are legal visitors. Mexicans I know don't like Trump much, but they don't base their travel plans on who is the U.S. president unless your name is Enrique Peña Nieto. Mexicans who come to the U.S. by plane usually VFR or attend to their real estate / other investments.

The Donald never said anything against legal immigration, e.g. Mexicans (or others) coming to the U.S. with a valid visa by air or going through the established process to get a work visa or a green card, he merely pointed out that there's a lot of illegal immigration across the southern border and opposed that. Dollar to Peso (and most other currencies) is much more likely to affect travel patterns for Mexican tourists, that currency keeps tanking. Under a President Trump, tourism would likely see a boost since he aims to weaken the dollar to boost exports and discourage imports. One more thing, he's got investments all over LatAm, this guy isn't anti-Latin. Look at Panama or Puerto Rico, Trump's name features prominently.
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:40 am

I don't know if Trump would make a difference - maybe yes, if he make border control even worst and would change the visa-free policy for "friendly" countries.

But even this administration is now making traveling to / through the US harder, as people who visited Iran within the last years are exempt from ESTA (visa free entry). As I was in Iran, my ESTA is not valid anymore and I changed my travel plans for the next conference in Toronto.

In order flying via the US as originally booked, I have to avoid now the US.

P.S. I never understood why you have to enter the US if you are just a transit passenger - makes no sense.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:42 am

Quoting afcjets (Reply 23):
It's very simple and easy to measure. If he is elected and indeed is successful at temporarily banning all Muslims from entering the US, you can subtract whatever amount of Muslims are entering now from the total and they will not be entering during the temporary ban.

It depends whether the ban is on tourist visas or residency related visas or all of the above.

Also depend upon honesty of reporting this because for tourist visas I find it unlikely they are going to investigate beyond simply asking the question.
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:47 am

Quoting ua900 (Reply 43):
Mexicans I know don't like Trump much,

They do in Nevada, where he won the Latino Republican vote.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:01 am

Quoting afcjets (Reply 46):
They do in Nevada, where he won the Latino Republican vote.

Dems and illegals don't get a vote in GOP primaries and these are not general elections  

I was more referring to Mexicans, not Mexican-Americans. Most conservatives in Mexico (I've also met some in Central America) are anti-Trump at this point. Maybe they'll turn around if Sanders wins on the other side.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:09 am

Quoting AirFiero (Reply 11):

It was interesting that the original poster said they didn't want the thread to become a political discussion, then promptly launched into their own political discussion.

He wants nobody to disagree with him, no matter how wrong he is.
 
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RE: Effect Of Trump On US Air Travel

Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:18 am

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 38):
Gotta fix all the aging bridges and tunnels first

Don't disagree with you. It's a higher priority in my estimation as well. That said, Trump repeatedly mentions US airports in disgrace during his speeches.

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