Moderators: richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

 
SoJo
Topic Author
Posts: 282
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:29 pm

Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:57 pm

Utterly disrespectful IMO.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35800187

How did they allow this to happen?
RAF Abingdon 1967. I met Beverley from Blackburn. Fantastic!
 
User avatar
moo
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun May 13, 2007 2:27 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:09 pm

Quoting SoJo (Thread starter):
How did they allow this to happen?

Its a road, they were doing donuts all over London as part of a "Matt Le Blanc tourist trip intro to London" piece.

Frankly, people are over reacting to this - 364 days out of most years (365 days this year) the Cenotaph is forgotten and treated like rubbish by most Londoners, it gets its special day once a year and that's it. The rest of the time its just another ornament on London's streets and gets treated as such. People climb it, pee on it, sleep on it, graffiti it.

Doing donuts near it is much less of an issue than what it normally goes through.

Interesting that there is outcry over this, but nothing about doing donuts by St Pauls, which *is* a cemetery and place of worship!
 
vikkyvik
Posts: 12594
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:58 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:10 pm

"The images on the front pages of the papers today - it doesn't matter what actually happened - what is important is what these images look like," he said.

I hate statements like that. It doesn't matter what actually happened? Really?

Other than that, to be honest, I don't really understand the controversy.
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
ArmitageShanks
Posts: 3780
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:30 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:38 pm

What a ridiculous story. People get "outraged" about the dumbest things.
 
jetwet1
Posts: 3250
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:42 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:46 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
I hate statements like that. It doesn't matter what actually happened? Really?

To be fair, to the majority of people, perception is reality, so I can understand where he is coming from.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):

Other than that, to be honest, I don't really understand the controversy.

Have someone do doughnuts through Arlington Cemetery and see the outcry.

I will say this, having grown up in London, there are whole areas of the city where you can't throw a rock and not hit a memorial of some kind.

Quoting moo (Reply 1):
Frankly, people are over reacting to this - 364 days out of most years (365 days this year) the Cenotaph is forgotten and treated like rubbish by most Londoners, it gets its special day once a year and that's it.

I understand what you are saying and 20 years ago I would have agreed, however, having had friends from both the US and UK go into war zones and lose their lives, I take the memorials a lot more seriously.
 
Kiwirob
Posts: 13083
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:16 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:49 pm

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 3):

What a ridiculous story. People get "outraged" about the dumbest things.

Better ask the op as he is outraged over this non event.
 
ltbewr
Posts: 15340
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:24 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:09 pm

I would make more about that these stunts occurred potential terrorism targets, the Centopath is very close Downing Street, where the PM lives.
Sounds like they are doing things intentionally controversial and not politically correct to get free attention for the new version of Top Gear. As a old (and kinda dumb) saying in show biz goes, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
 
vikkyvik
Posts: 12594
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:58 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:32 pm

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 4):
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
I hate statements like that. It doesn't matter what actually happened? Really?

To be fair, to the majority of people, perception is reality, so I can understand where he is coming from.

That's exactly my point. Why make statements that support that kind of attitude? Buying right into judging a book by its cover.

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 4):
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):

Other than that, to be honest, I don't really understand the controversy.

Have someone do doughnuts through Arlington Cemetery and see the outcry.

If Top Gear was doing doughnuts on public roads near Arlington Cemetery, I honestly wouldn't care, and I'd say the same thing - I don't really understand the controversy.
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
User avatar
moo
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun May 13, 2007 2:27 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:51 am

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 4):
I understand what you are saying and 20 years ago I would have agreed, however, having had friends from both the US and UK go into war zones and lose their lives, I take the memorials a lot more seriously.

They weren't doing donuts on the memorial, they were doing donuts on the road a hundred yards away from the memorial. The memorial was not touched, damaged or even in any BBC footage - it only appeared in journalist shots from specific angles.

So, tell me, how far away from a memorial is "appropriate" to not have to act solemn and pious? 100 yards apparently is not enough, so 200 yards? 500 yards? A mile?

This is all manufactured outrage.

To be honest, my main issue with all of this when I read the original article was Matt Le Blanc being described as a "Top Gear star"... the series hasn't even aired yet...
 
GDB
Posts: 13816
Joined: Wed May 23, 2001 6:25 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:02 pm

Quoting moo (Reply 8):
They weren't doing donuts on the memorial, they were doing donuts on the road a hundred yards away from the memorial. The memorial was not touched, damaged or even in any BBC footage - it only appeared in journalist shots from specific angles.

So, tell me, how far away from a memorial is "appropriate" to not have to act solemn and pious? 100 yards apparently is not enough, so 200 yards? 500 yards? A mile?

This is all manufactured outrage.

Yes, by the press, it's a BBC production after all.
 
Bongodog1964
Posts: 3542
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:29 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:15 pm

Some of the mock outrage over this is hilarious , one member of parliament said "Jeremy Clarkson would never have done this" Of course not he would have been too busy racially insulting and then punching an assistant producer   
 
jetwet1
Posts: 3250
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:42 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:53 pm

Quoting moo (Reply 8):
So, tell me, how far away from a memorial is "appropriate" to not have to act solemn and pious? 100 yards apparently is not enough, so 200 yards? 500 yards? A mile?

There is no right answer for that, you know that, I know that, there are plenty of areas in London where doing doughnuts wouldn't raise an eyebrow, Whitehall isn't one of them.

Quoting moo (Reply 8):
To be honest, my main issue with all of this when I read the original article was Matt Le Blanc being described as a "Top Gear star"... the series hasn't even aired yet...

So true, as good as he is in Episodes, calling him the star of anything is going way to far.
 
User avatar
kasimir
Posts: 268
Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:07 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:04 pm

Quoting moo (Reply 1):
Frankly, people are over reacting to this - 364 days out of most years (365 days this year) the Cenotaph is forgotten and treated like rubbish by most Londoners, it gets its special day once a year and that's it. The rest of the time its just another ornament on London's streets and gets treated as such. People climb it, pee on it, sleep on it, graffiti it.

Totally agree, I don't get it either, its just ridiculous...

Anyway, I'm quite interested how the new Top Gear will be, even if I will miss the old gang  
 
User avatar
moo
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun May 13, 2007 2:27 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:14 pm

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 11):
There is no right answer for that, you know that, I know that, there are plenty of areas in London where doing doughnuts wouldn't raise an eyebrow, Whitehall isn't one of them.

Why not? Its just a road.

Again I point out that no one gave a toss that it was also done outside St Pauls Cathedral, where there are *actual* bodies buried...

So, enough of the fake outrage please.
 
vikkyvik
Posts: 12594
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:58 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:08 pm

Quoting jetwet1 (Reply 11):
Quoting moo (Reply 8):So, tell me, how far away from a memorial is "appropriate" to not have to act solemn and pious? 100 yards apparently is not enough, so 200 yards? 500 yards? A mile?
There is no right answer for that

So why get outraged about it then? Obviously people's opinions will differ on the appropriate distance, if there isn't a right answer.
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
User avatar
sturmovik
Posts: 714
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 12:05 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:47 pm

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 6):
Sounds like they are doing things intentionally controversial and not politically correct to get free attention for the new version of Top Gear.

Meh. They're not doing a proper job. Top Gear isn't Top Gear unless entire countries are pissed off and ambassadors are being summoned.    
'What's it doing now?'
 
SoJo
Topic Author
Posts: 282
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:29 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:04 pm

Quoting moo (Reply 13):
So, enough of the fake outrage please.

Fake outrage? You all seem so blasé. But, for me, it stinks. Stunts like this should not be allowed near any National Monument. But, there again, I'm just old and respect for the fallen was part of my upbringing. Must be nice to be so flippant about this.

Oh well... That's life I suppose.
RAF Abingdon 1967. I met Beverley from Blackburn. Fantastic!
 
ArmitageShanks
Posts: 3780
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:30 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:05 pm

Quoting SoJo (Reply 16):
Stunts like this should not be allowed near any National Monument.

How far should it be? Should the buses, taxis, and public traffic that surround it be stopped? If not, should we discourage or ban any mirthful conversation while within a certain distance if one is on a bus or taxi that passes within view of the monument? I mean, where do we draw the line?

Quoting SoJo (Reply 16):
But, there again, I'm just old and respect for the fallen was part of my upbringing.

That's a cheap excuse "old people" use all the time. People were exactly the same in 1845 or 1945 as they are today. Some were dicks, some weren't.
 
vikkyvik
Posts: 12594
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:58 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:23 am

Quoting SoJo (Reply 16):
But, there again, I'm just old and respect for the fallen was part of my upbringing. Must be nice to be so flippant about this.

Respect for the fallen has very little to do with outrage over a Top Gear stunt on a public street near a memorial.
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
SoJo
Topic Author
Posts: 282
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:29 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:32 pm

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 17):
That's a cheap excuse "old people" use all the time.

Typical youngsters reply they use all the time. Top Gear rules Heh
RAF Abingdon 1967. I met Beverley from Blackburn. Fantastic!
 
User avatar
Thunderboltdrgn
Posts: 2111
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:39 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:02 am

Like a thunderbolt of lightning the Dragon roars across the sky. Il Drago Ruggente
 
trident3
Posts: 992
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2001 7:10 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:24 pm

Trailer for the new series is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTWcEjj0w3s
and YouTube viewers don't like it
"We are the warrior race-Tough men in the toughest sport." Brian Noble, Head Coach, Great Britain Rugby League.
 
User avatar
zkojq
Posts: 4386
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:42 am

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:59 am

People always seem to be lining up to throw new Top Gear under the bus.

Quoting moo (Reply 8):
To be honest, my main issue with all of this when I read the original article was Matt Le Blanc being described as a "Top Gear star"... the series hasn't even aired yet...

  

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 10):
Of course not he would have been too busy racially insulting and then punching an assistant producer

Lol, indeed.

Quoting trident3 (Reply 21):
Trailer for the new series is up

Looks as good as any of the previous trailers.
First to fly the 787-9
 
DIJKKIJK
Posts: 1869
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:03 pm

RE: Top Gear... Not A Good Start

Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:46 pm

Top Gear won't be the same without Jeremy, James, Richard and their sense of humor.

The new guys seem like jokers in comparison.
Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Virtual737 and 30 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos