|Quoting offloaded (Reply 23):|
Because we have allowed this to happen, and I certainly don't blame johnny foreigner. Benefits in Britain are too generous to, dare I say it, Brits. If you are of working age, fit, and unemployed, and there is a job picking fruit, it should be really simple. Take the job or get no benefits. I think it's similar in Spain with the Moroccan fruit pickers.
Another myth is how great the benefits system is, I've friends who have worked in that area for years and they've only got less generous, this has increased, a lot, since Cameron in 2010 but the direction was going that way and had been for years,
However it is an unwieldy system to manage, not helped by most ministers being clueless and if they are not, by the time they've found their feet they have moved on. The recently departed Duncan-Smith being the worst in the former case, he left before he was pushed after years of cock ups. Add in the usual IT
Even so, compared to the 60's and 70's here and also with any EU nations, the UK is not the best place to slum it on the dole, the papers, shock TV
'docs' can always find extreme examples but extreme also means uncommon, usually due to the issues with managing the system.
If we do Brexit those jobs that despite 6 years of a concerted cutback on benefits, which is lead to things like food banks emerging and has made the housing crisis worse, the UK still cannot fill, will simply be filled with immigrants from outside the EU. Which given the race and in many cases faith of many of them will not please your average UKIP voter and would finally make Farage's head explode. They'll be muttering about the good old days with the East Europeans, well sod them, if they vote and succeed at getting Bexit.
Boris briefly mentioned a points system like Australia, until it was pointed out that this applied to the UK would increase immigration threefold, oh dear, really doesn't do 'detail' does he? Or thinking, except about him in No.10 ASAP.
As former PM
John Major pointed out, the world in many places has conditions that mean there are more people fleeing war, extreme poverty etc, than at any time since the end of WW2.
Add in globalisation in all it's forms, (and the industry this website is about is a big part of that) and you have a situation that won't be resolved by Brexit, if anything it will make it worse.
|Quoting G-CIVP (Reply 29):|
Got to disagree with you on that one. Boris did do stuff such as Boris Bikes, improve the tech infra-structure around Old Street, but the role of London Major doesn't carry many powers in the first instance.
The bikes project was started under his predecessor, he did do that cable car no-one uses, those buses that break down for triple the cost, said he'd prevent a 'Dubai-On-Thames' when approving construction - seen the London skyline recently? He also promised to do something about air pollution - it's worse than ever, promises on affordable housing forgotten.
I was never surprised, saw through that POS
when he was still 'bumbling Boris', yes he was a good MC
for the London games but who really thinks they'd have even got them had he been mayor in 2005, with his famous dislike of detail or any work that isn't pure self promotion?
But he was in favour of less restrictive immigration funnily enough.