That's some Alex Jones like thinking there.
Disagreement is fine but please don't be silly. If someone is for gun control to save lives, they probably don't like it when lives are lost to guns
Do you honestly think I think that? Did I say that somewhere?[/quote]
Forgive me, I had to work all night and misread your post. Should probably stop posting, I've read a few things incorrectly already
Don't sweat it!
THAT's your source of excessive poverty in the black community. And nobody wants to talk about it.
Actually, it is evangelical right wingers (not Republicans, but the loud and destructive faction within the Republican party) who do not want to talk about, or do anything about, it.
Democrats want to raise the minimum wage and give everyone affordable health care. The evangelical right wingers response? "Why? They can live off scraps!"
But the problem with your argument is that the "right wingers" didn't succeed. I won't touch on the irony of you talking about minimum wage increases when the primary purposes of implementing a minimum wage in the U.S. was to drive blacks out of the labor market, but the left has succeeded in providing impoverished blacks with healthcare, welfare, housing, food stamps, and free shitty education (while spending the most money per student on public education of any industrialized nation). I mean, you really won.
Tragically though, while successful in making American blacks the most government-dependent minority group, a basic study of the data demonstrates that after 40 or so years of these policies, they have failed miserably in lifting American blacks out of poverty. By some measures even (illegitimacy rates, youth unemployment rates...etc.) the perverse economic incentives created by these policies have made American blacks worse
Now, you can blame racism or say the racism is the major factor...and racism certainly does exist, there are stupid people out there and there will always be stupid people...but then you'll also need to explain how it is that modern-day black immigrants to the U.S. from countries like Nigeria, Haiti, and Trinidad actually reach a socio-economic status practically on-par with whites after a generation or two in this country. Indeed there are many minority groups whose socio-economic status exceeds that of whites in the U.S.
I believe strongly there are specific laws, criminal justice regulations, and policies that have the effect of disproportionately affecting blacks that should be addressed...there are very legitimate grievances here that I hate seeing get lost in another mind-numbing gun control debate. I'll offer one particular example that was only finally addressed in 2010: the 100-to-1 sentencing disparity between crack and powdered cocaine. Crack cocaine carried much heavier sentencing and, because crack cocaine is cheaper and its consumers are typically poorer, therefore resulted in more blacks getting the book thrown at them than rich whites using powdered cocaine.
There are a lot of areas similar to the above that do weigh on the poor and black communities which should be changed.
Lastly, I'd like to extend a brief middle finger to the arses condescending on this thread from the likes of Sweden, Finland, Germany, Switzerland, Japan...etc. I.e some of the whitest (except for Japan there obviously), least diverse, homogenous countries on the planet. I mean, gosh, I'm sure governing would be fairly easy and unrest would be sparse if most of your country is the same race and basically shared the same values. The United States is the most ethnically and culturally diverse nation in the world (and I'm glad!)...there are bound to be problems and frictions that need to be addressed...and trying to compare the U.S. to a country like, say Switzerland...as if Swiss and American governments/institutions/values could be functionally interchangeable, is frankly ridiculous.