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Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:50 am

... after voice vote shuts down Never Trump forces, says http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/n ... ote-225716
CLEVELAND — The Republican party came within a whisker of reaching the unity it had long sought Monday. What it got instead was convention floor chaos.

After mounting for weeks, tension exploded into a high-profile fight pitting the Donald Trump campaign and Republican National Committee leadership against a coalition of conservative activists and delegates from the "never Trump” movement.

The two sides were reduced to shouting at each other on national television after party leadership blocked a roll call vote on the convention rules, which virtually guarantee Trump the party nomination by requiring delegates to vote in accordance with their state’s primary or caucus results.

Ahh, the delicious irony of watching REPUBLICAN outrage because they were denied the opportunity to vote on something!

It sounds like the Never Trump movement came a lot closer than anyone thought they would to derailing The Donald.
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:58 am

The Never Trump folks were furious at how they were treated. Who ever came up with that steam ruling plan failure to give any consideration to the intensity of their opponents reactions. Colorado walked out, an ex-Senator called them Brown Shirts, etc. The Never Trumps will find other ways of responding, demonstrating that the simple vote they wanted would have been the wise choice.
 
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:07 am

Ken777 wrote:
the simple vote they wanted would have been the wise choice

Again, more irony...

I guess blocking votes is the only thing GOP leaders know how to do these days.
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:31 am

This has been a really bizarre first day of the convention.

1) the angry delegates not getting the roll call vote.

2) Marcus Luttrell gives an entire speech without saying Donald Trump's name

3) Scott Baio speaks. Odd enough. Even more bizzare is his line "Make America America again!"

4) A grieving mother directly blames Hillary Clinton for her son's death and says Clinton should be prison

5) The theme of the night is "Make America Safe Again", ignoring that violent crime rates have been almost continuously falling for a quarter century. Property crime for about 35 years.

6) The Milwaukee County Sheriff is now giving a speech that would put both Trump and Clinton to shame. Damn impressive speech so far.
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:36 am

Where have I seen this charade of a vote before......?

Oh that's right....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... count.html
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:08 am

LittleFokker wrote:
Where have I seen this charade of a vote before......?

Oh that's right....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... count.html



I cannot watch them for either side, all bull and blather, nothing changes after all is said and done. My youngest grandson said to me when the Republican Convention was starting today. Isn't this all rigged? I said of course, it is politics and it is all rigged. Trump was correct about that.
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:00 am

Two standout moments of Day One:
Melania's blatant speech plagiarism of Michelle Obama (and the hidden Rick Roll ;) ):

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-republican-convention-2016-live-melania-trump-s-rnc-speech-appears-to-1468901655-htmlstory.html

And Congressman Steve King's literal white supremecy:

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12218672/steve-king-racist-ignorant
 
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:20 am

The floor fight over the rules was brutally shut down by the party leaders. A lot of behind the scenes arm twisting on a couple of state committees. likely a few key challenging state leaders told they wouldn't get prime Trump Administration jobs or backing for running for office in the future or their careers ruined if they didn't back off. For sure they wanted the illusion of unity, even if Trump loses and likely control of the Senate, the R's will still have overwhelming control of state Legislatures and Governors, or in the US Senate enough numbers to slow down or halt work.
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:52 pm

I'm trying to wrap my head around the speech theft. (I was going to say snafu, but that's not strong enough). What frame of mind would the speech writing team be in to not even notice that? You gotta love all the facebook and twitter memes out there. "I'd like to thank my speech writers Copy & Paste",

I tell you, sometimes I think this campaign has a cruel trick up their sleeve and they are conning us. They cannot be this careless.
 
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:13 pm

I think Kimberlin Brown should run for office...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-vdx2eCAY
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:21 am

Well, you can't say that Ted Cruz doesn't have some big, brass ones. He tells people to "vote their conscience" and does not endorse Trump during his prime time speech at the convention.

What a mess of a convention for Trump. The floor fight on the first day, plagiarism in Meliana's speech and the campaign looks like dummies trying to deny it, stories flying that Kasich was basically offered the job of President while Trump plays cheerleader, and Cruz shows up Trump in his speech. Should be an interesting final day.
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:51 am

Cruz committed political suicide tonight.....

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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:12 pm

Cruz gave his first speech for his Cruz 2020 campaign.

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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:55 pm

alberchico wrote:
Cruz committed political suicide tonight.....

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Alas. Ted, is dead. :lol:

I've seen people do some really dumb things politically, but this was epic.

Ted, you were everything everyone thought you were, and then some. That being Sarah's narcissistic twin brother.

You wake up this morning and decide to double down? :shock: :lol: :shock:
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:58 pm

Alias1024 wrote:
Well, you can't say that Ted Cruz doesn't have some big, brass ones. He tells people to "vote their conscience" and does not endorse Trump during his prime time speech at the convention.


Tugger wrote:
Cruz gave his first speech for his Cruz 2020 campaign.


Anyone who's followed Ted Cruz knew he was going to manage to make the conversation about him. Like most sociopaths you're not going to get him to do anything that doesn't benefit him.
 
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:59 pm

luckyone wrote:
Anyone who's followed Ted Cruz knew he was going to manage to make the conversation about him. Like most sociopaths you're not going to get him to do anything that doesn't benefit him.


This.
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:27 pm

What does Cruz have to lose? If Trump is the future of the Republican party, then there is no place for people with his views. If, on the other hand, Trump crashes and burns, everyone who supported him will see their political careers tank while Cruz can say "I told you so". Anyway it's not like Cruz needs to remain in politics to survive.
 
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:04 pm

I'm still a bit confused on the Republican platform? Is it their position that Hillary should be imprisoned or publicly executed? Or maybe it was that she should be executed in private? Have they considered waterboarding?
 
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:15 pm

victrola wrote:
I'm still a bit confused on the Republican platform?

Well apparently the platform now contains the idea of not defending our partner nations in common defense if attacked. Even though we actually have treaties that obligate us to do such....

What the hell is going on with the Republican party?

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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:37 pm

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Starting to sink in that this man might actually be the leader of the free world. Just unreal, can he even complete a whole sentence?
 
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:39 pm

Trump calling into question NATO and America's commitment to it. *SMH*

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36852805
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:52 pm

Ted Cruz did about the only decent thing he's ever done.
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Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:02 pm

PacificBeach88 wrote:
Trump calling into question NATO and America's commitment to it. *SMH*

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36852805

Does Putin pay him or what is this? Trump must be as far from Reagan as it's humanly possible to get.
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:18 pm

And the most unfortunate picture of the night goes to:

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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:29 pm

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And the most unfortunate picture of the night goes to:

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I think you mean the most truthful image of the campaign.
 
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:19 pm

Boeing717200 wrote:
I've seen people do some really dumb things politically, but this was epic.

Is it really so "epic" (easily the most trite and over-applied word of the '10s) that a man whose wife was insulted and used for a cheap political stunt, refused to side by the person responsible for such?
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:47 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
Boeing717200 wrote:
I've seen people do some really dumb things politically, but this was epic.

Is it really so "epic" (easily the most trite and over-applied word of the '10s) that a man whose wife was insulted and used for a cheap political stunt, refused to side by the person responsible for such?

Well his father killed JFK soooo...
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:54 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Boeing717200 wrote:
I've seen people do some really dumb things politically, but this was epic.

Is it really so "epic" (easily the most trite and over-applied word of the '10s) that a man whose wife was insulted and used for a cheap political stunt, refused to side by the person responsible for such?

Well his father killed JFK soooo...

Yeah and Ted Cruise is the Zodiac killer
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Re: Chaos erupts on GOP convention floor...

Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:14 am

victrola wrote:
I'm still a bit confused on the Republican platform? Is it their position that Hillary should be imprisoned or publicly executed? Or maybe it was that she should be executed in private? Have they considered waterboarding?


I'm sure "President Trump" will let Congress decide that one. :roll:

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