WIederling wrote:InsideMan wrote:Actually LBJ was a lot more effective and an overall better president than Kennedy ever was.
He was able to strong arm congress to get e.g. the civil rights act passed.
Obama is a lot less effective in that way....
JFK manage to keep the war mongers at bay which LBJ definitely did not succeed in.
( did he actually try? )
under his presidency the Vietnam War was started under a conjured up pretext.
( similar to how a conflict against Cuba was "designed" to go off.)
touché re the Vietnam war. I still believe he was far more effective in achieving is objectives
and strategically smarter than JFK. E.g. how he botched the bay of pigs invasion because he
was only halfway comitted.