Hillis wrote:Dreadnought wrote:If you saw a picture of my wife and daughter you would know that I am not a racist, and having spent over 20 years of my life overseas and visited over 60 countries, I'm hardly a xenophobe either. My wife is an immigrant, (whose had a shitty time with US Immigration authorities BTW), and I've lived in Texas so I know how screwed up our immigration system is from both perspectives.
But you (or at least the loudest mouths on the left it seems) don't seem to understand my position on anything - If I don't agree with you on all points, well that just means I'm racist, xenophobe etc. We're tired of it.
And yet you have no problem siding with a party and a man who is bigotry personified. The ideology you worship hates African-Americans, Mexicans, LGBTQ's, Muslims, and anyone else who doesn't meet their prudish standards of the GOP. So, I think DLX is correct that you're apparently not as bright as you tell us. After all, if you're so worldly, then why do you support people who would probably want to do harm to your wife and daughter?
I read today that that some head of a Neo-Nazi group here in the U.S. had to resign today because it was found out he had a Jewish wife. Even with a Jewish wife, he is more than willing to call for harm against people like his wife. So, again, I think DLX is onto something as far as you're concerned.
The posts you two have made toward each other both make me sick. You two are both hurling insults at each other and making arguments with no basis in fact what so ever. And when you stoop to insulting the other side, rather than listen to them...it prevents an actual honest dialogue from happening, it makes people less like to listen to your point of view, and it divides us further as a nation. The fact is this division has only grown in the past decade. I am not going to point fingers at anyone person on either side for making it happen, but it needs to stop period.
Do I believe the Republican party is racist? No I don't. It is a fact the republican party helped abolish slavery, got the 14th amendment ratified, and helped pass the civil rights act. Now people can claim that the parties switched roles sometime in the 60's or so, and while there is truth to that in some respects, much of this is debunked by Dinesh D'Sousa and a black lady who has a predominant role in the D'Sousa Documentary Hillary's America. (Granted its a partisan movie, but the movie uses facts and not emotion to tell its story). South Carolina reelected a Black Senator by one of the widest margins in any race period in a deep red state. Colorado voted against a Black guy for the Senate, and most of the votes against him were Democrats. Does this make these people racist? Another overlooked fact is the fact that Mike Pence will be the first public official to be sworn into office by a Black man, Clarence Thomas. The Republican Primary featured one Woman, Two Latinos, a Black Man, among others. The Democratic primary featured nothing but White people. Do I believe Donald Trump is a racist? No. Do I believe he said some racist things on the campaign trail. Absolutely he did, and this is why I did not vote for him. Even if he didn't mean his rhetoric as racist, it comes across that way, and that doesn't help us, and he hasn't learned anything since getting elected.
The Democrats aren't blameless either. The biggest problem in the democratic party is a diversity of ideas. If you don't tow the party line, the liberal base and online publications like Daily Kos and Huffington Post will trash you. And the biggest issue for them is, the areas of the country outside of the Coasts and Chicago land are very different. What works for people in some areas doesn't work in others. Which is why a diversity of ideas at the national level is so desperately needed. One of the reasons the Tea Party was founded is because some of these ideas were not being heard by either party. But all in all, I say the republican party has had more diverse ideas in recent years than the Democrats. The best example to illustrate what I am saying is the Women's March this weekend. I understand why the march is happening, and I am sympathetic to a lot of what this march is about. They have every right to protest. I have no issues with that. One issue I do have is there are a lot of womens groups such as the Susan B Anthony Foundation as well as And Then There were None who are being told not to march in solidarity with these women even though these groups have much in common. The big reason. These groups are full of pro life women. Apparently a lot of women believe that being pro life costs you your Woman Card. When people agree on so much more than they disagree on, to turn them away on this issue saddens me. There is so much that can unite us. And we focus on our differences. And instead of healthy dialogue, we resort to insulting each other. And unfortunately this is how the politicians love it, because a divided country gets them votes, and its true on both sides. And we pay the price for it.