Ah yes, the whole "But, the people *I* know, did....
Hence my quoted opening words.
You continue to ignore this. Yes, people I know. And they know other people. What's wrong with that? These are real examples, not just some news article. All from many different schools. No, these people don't represent every case out there. But it shows there are ways to achieve your goals. And I never said they don't have a lot of debt. All the ones that did medical and law are in ~ quarter million debt. But their salaries are enough that they don't struggle paying $3k a month.
But OK, let's not use people I know. A person goes to school for engineering and comes out with $80k of debt. Another person goes to the same school and does history and comes out also with $80k of debt. Who will have a harder time after that?? It isn't the hard sciences degrees that are struggling, even if they end up with more debt.
So in other words, you're going to completely ignore graduate education... ya know, where the concept is far more likely to apply.
Rather disingenuous, don't ya think?
Ok, then if you go to graduate school, don't have kids while in school. Is it that hard? Don't forget that having a child is a choice. Having kids while in school and then complaining about how hard life is is just silly.
It's not only possible, it's probable.
And if you think Toyotas, Hondas, or any other brand are somehow magically exempt from that; then you might be surprised to learn that they, like any other vehicle in that price range, are not....
Never said they are exempt. Just a lower risk or probability. Nothing is 100% certain in life. Even a new car can be a lemon.
And "a lot" (as in, the majority prior to the end of last year itself), was not.
So you're just going to ignore that too?
According to the article you posted in the beginning of the thread, the debt is now 1.31 trillion and has doubled since 2009. So that means more than 50% of the debt is taken out after 2009. However it is likely much higher. The debt from 2009 should be mostly paid off by now since school loans tend to have 10 year pay off periods, and 8 years have elapsed since then. I don't have data right now but I would guess that 75% or more of the current debt is taken out after 2009. As I said in my original post, this is is a direct result of the tuition almost doubling in that same period.
Awesome, you just ruled out nearly every one of the ABA top 100 law schools. Great strategy.
Sure I ruled them out. But what fraction of that $1.31T debt is from those top 100 law schools? Many students are not doing law, and of those that are, even fewer can get accepted in those top 100. You do realize there are other law schools right? If the ABA doesn't allow students to work on the side, it just smells like a scheme to force them to take out even more loans so that the banks can profit.
Cheat the system and hope to hell that it doesn't affect your performance enough to be found out, to which you'll have no recourse.
You gotta do what you gotta do. All I hear is whining and crying. Bwaaaa I can't go to school and work because of <insert reason here>. There are literally so many jobs one can do without the school ever finding out. If illegal aliens can find work and not be caught surely a student can do the same. When the system is stacked in such a way that you get the short stick, you deal with it and take more drastic measures instead of complaining about it. Or, you can try and change the system, but that is harder. The system does need drastic change though, and soon. Or the bubble will burst sooner or later.
Or are you suggesting, they shall work illegally, without paying taxes and social security. But hey.. .those damn illegal immigrants paying taxes and social security are evil!
It's exactly what I am suggesting. And not only because many students are doing it already.
"A McGriddle and a large coffee please.... wait, aren´t you in my class at......"
Yes, that can happen if you get a job on campus flipping burgers. Like I said earlier, there are many jobs that can be done. Or you can work further from campus.
Why'd you do that?
I work in civil aerospace and do so with a Mechanical Engineering degree too. Only one of those was necessary. I haven't heard of needing both.
I did both because I took extra courses, combined with the fact that I had several courses credited from high school because I took AP classes. The way the program was made I would've had to be there four years anyway since not every class is offered in fall and spring. The tuition was the same whether I did a double major or not. It was just a matter of personal effort, to take the extra courses. The aerospace classes were fluids related, so I thought it would be helpful if I look for a job in the aerospace field.