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Whisky wars: most polite war ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:21 pm
by Dutchy
2 countries have been fighting over an uninhabited island by leaving each other bottles of alcohol for over 3 decades


http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-a ... &r=US&IR=T

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJvb7so2614

Re: Whisky wars: most polite war ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:17 pm
by Thunderboltdrgn
Sounds pretty similar to the Rockall rock which several countries claim is theirs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall_Bank_dispute

Re: Whisky wars: most polite war ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:26 am
by prebennorholm
Yes, here in Denmark we are used to long lasting wars, not just The Whisky War and the Rockall Dispute.

On 11 November 1809 Andalusia in southern Spain declared war on Denmark due to Denmark's stupid support of Napoleon. Now late autumn isn't a good time to go to war in northern Europe, you could easily get cold feet, so hostilities had to wait until springtime. And besides, the Spanish Armada had no icebreakers back in 1809.

However, when springtime 1810 arrived, then somehow Andalusia must have forgotten that they were at war against Denmark. Or maybe military resources were needed elsewhere? In any case, cyber war had not been invented yet.

Finally on 11 November 1981 the Danish ambassador in Spain Mr. Mogens Wandel-Petersen went to Sevilla and signed a peace treaty. Witnesses were - in addition to the locals - a couple hundred Danish tourists, many of them clothed as viking warriors. They celebrated the end of an exactly 172 years long war singing the Danish and Spanish national anthems while both national flags were raised at the town hall.

Re: Whisky wars: most polite war ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:01 am
by BartSimpson
Somebody once told me about the Great Potato War between Iceland and the UK (must have occured in the 70ies or so).

Iceland strongly objected to UK fishermen trawling within a 200 nm radius off Iceland. It came to a standoff between the navies, the Icelanders filled their guns with potatos and fired a broadside against the British. That settled the disupte once and for all.

Is there any truth to this story or is it just an anecdote?

Re: Whisky wars: most polite war ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:08 pm
by Bongodog1964
BartSimpson wrote:
Somebody once told me about the Great Potato War between Iceland and the UK (must have occured in the 70ies or so).

Iceland strongly objected to UK fishermen trawling within a 200 nm radius off Iceland. It came to a standoff between the navies, the Icelanders filled their guns with potatos and fired a broadside against the British. That settled the disupte once and for all.

Is there any truth to this story or is it just an anecdote?


I wasn't very old at the time, but do remember quite a bit of coverage on the news. UK trawlers had been used to fishing right up to the coast of Iceland, at that time we had a large far water fishing fleet mainly based at Grimsby and Fleetwood I recall looking primarily for Cod off Iceland and up in the Barents Sea. As Iceland increased their limit there were a lot of stand offs between UK trawlers and Icelandic gunboats, the usual tactic used by Iceland was to steam behind the trawlers and cut the trawl wires. The Royal Navy sent frigates to ensure no UK fishermen came to harm. We had lots of action shots of frigates taking huge waves over the bows and fishing boats being tossed around by the ocean, certainly made me not want to be there in a smallish boat. The result of course was never in doubt, and the UK far water fishing fleet is no more.

Re: Whisky wars: most polite war ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:45 pm
by Dutchy
prebennorholm wrote:
Yes, here in Denmark we are used to long lasting wars, not just The Whisky War and the Rockall Dispute.

On 11 November 1809 Andalusia in southern Spain declared war on Denmark due to Denmark's stupid support of Napoleon. Now late autumn isn't a good time to go to war in northern Europe, you could easily get cold feet, so hostilities had to wait until springtime. And besides, the Spanish Armada had no icebreakers back in 1809.

However, when springtime 1810 arrived, then somehow Andalusia must have forgotten that they were at war against Denmark. Or maybe military resources were needed elsewhere? In any case, cyber war had not been invented yet.

Finally on 11 November 1981 the Danish ambassador in Spain Mr. Mogens Wandel-Petersen went to Sevilla and signed a peace treaty. Witnesses were - in addition to the locals - a couple hundred Danish tourists, many of them clothed as viking warriors. They celebrated the end of an exactly 172 years long war singing the Danish and Spanish national anthems while both national flags were raised at the town hall.


Yes, remember that The Netherlands had also some kind of war going, I think it was a British city or county or something. A historian found out that a war was never declared to be over. :lol:

Re: Whisky wars: most polite war ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:51 am
by WIederling
BartSimpson wrote:
Somebody once told me about the Great Potato War between Iceland and the UK (must have occured in the 70ies or so).

Iceland strongly objected to UK fishermen trawling within a 200 nm radius off Iceland. It came to a standoff between the navies, the Icelanders filled their guns with potatos and fired a broadside against the British. That settled the disupte once and for all.

Is there any truth to this story or is it just an anecdote?


don't know about potatoes or not.

The British sent frigates and lost the cod wars against Iceland. Germany sent Ben Wisch and won :-)
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJn ... _Wars.html
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... edit-text=
original: http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-41406437.html

quite the lesson on being reasonable and soft power. ( lots to learn for for today's pushy poli tics )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-J%C3 ... ischnewski