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1967: Australian PM goes for a swim, never comes back...

Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:51 pm

Who knew? 50 years ago...

BBC Witness: The Disappearance of Harold Holt

Wikipedia: Disappearance of Harold Holt

9news: Harold Holt's disappearance still baffles 50 years on

Heard the first story on BBC this morning, and it was one of the strangest thing I ever heard. I'm a history buff but I'd never heard this story before. Seems to have spawned countless conspiracy stories, but in the end, it seems the man simply went for a swim in dangerous conditions, was swept out to sea, and never heard from ever again. Seems unthinkable in modern times, no?
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Re: 1967: Australian PM goes for a swim, never comes back...

Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:46 pm

And to top it off, as a memorial they named a swimming complex after him...
 
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Re: 1967: Australian PM goes for a swim, never comes back...

Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:54 am

Further irony, Australian navy had a radio station in WA for sub surface (i.e under water) communications. It was called, you guessed it, HMAS Harold Holt.
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Re: 1967: Australian PM goes for a swim, never comes back...

Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:05 am

It turned out that Holt drowned showing off to his mistress, he had no police protection with him, unlike the current day. Apparently LBJ was in tears at his memorial service, they were close friends.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/she-h ... 05r74.html

www.theage.com.au/good-weekend/presiden ... zuc2x.html


Cheviot beach is part of the Point Nepean National Park, and has only been opened up to the public in the past few years. Prior to this, the whole area was a quarantine station, and was then an army base - parts of the area were laid with land mines, and there are still areas of the park that still have unexploded ordinance to this day.... Holt had a holiday home in nearby Portsea (Portsea & adjacent Sorrento are basically Melbourne's version of The Hamptons), Cheviot beach was the perfect place for the PM to spend time with his mistress away from prying eyes....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Nepean
 
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:36 am

Interesting period documentary on the disappearance & subsequent memorial service. AF1 & the other official aircraft all flew into Tullamarine, this would have been one of the first times the runways would have been used - Tullamarine would not open to commercial traffic until 1970. Also note the huge crowd outside the service - in today's climate, the Melbourne CBD would have been shut down & declared a no-go zone......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cSMQGXICWk
 
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Re: 1967: Australian PM goes for a swim, never comes back...

Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:42 pm

Hasten to mention that they named a swimming complex after him not as some sick joke or quirk of the Australian sense of humour, but because Holt loved swimming so much.
Also HMAS Harolt Holt wasn't named as a nudge-nudge reference to submarines, it was named in honour of the Prime Minister who oversaw the establishment of the communications base.
As you can probably tell, I think a lot of the guffawing over this event is pretty tasteless, especially to his still-living family members who have to endure the death of their loved one being treated as a joke.
 
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Re: 1967: Australian PM goes for a swim, never comes back...

Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:37 pm

melpax wrote:
It turned out that Holt drowned showing off to his mistress, he had no police protection with him, unlike the current day. Apparently LBJ was in tears at his memorial service, they were close friends.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/she-h ... 05r74.html

http://www.theage.com.au/good-weekend/p ... zuc2x.html


Cheviot beach is part of the Point Nepean National Park, and has only been opened up to the public in the past few years. Prior to this, the whole area was a quarantine station, and was then an army base - parts of the area were laid with land mines, and there are still areas of the park that still have unexploded ordinance to this day.... Holt had a holiday home in nearby Portsea (Portsea & adjacent Sorrento are basically Melbourne's version of The Hamptons), Cheviot beach was the perfect place for the PM to spend time with his mistress away from prying eyes....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Nepean

melpax wrote:
Interesting period documentary on the disappearance & subsequent memorial service. AF1 & the other official aircraft all flew into Tullamarine, this would have been one of the first times the runways would have been used - Tullamarine would not open to commercial traffic until 1970. Also note the huge crowd outside the service - in today's climate, the Melbourne CBD would have been shut down & declared a no-go zone......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cSMQGXICWk

Thanks for the links, they made for interesting reading/viewing.

The whole thing seems so surreal.
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Re: 1967: Australian PM goes for a swim, never comes back...

Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:11 pm

Revelation wrote:
melpax wrote:
It turned out that Holt drowned showing off to his mistress, he had no police protection with him, unlike the current day. Apparently LBJ was in tears at his memorial service, they were close friends.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/she-h ... 05r74.html

http://www.theage.com.au/good-weekend/p ... zuc2x.html


Cheviot beach is part of the Point Nepean National Park, and has only been opened up to the public in the past few years. Prior to this, the whole area was a quarantine station, and was then an army base - parts of the area were laid with land mines, and there are still areas of the park that still have unexploded ordinance to this day.... Holt had a holiday home in nearby Portsea (Portsea & adjacent Sorrento are basically Melbourne's version of The Hamptons), Cheviot beach was the perfect place for the PM to spend time with his mistress away from prying eyes....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Nepean

melpax wrote:
Interesting period documentary on the disappearance & subsequent memorial service. AF1 & the other official aircraft all flew into Tullamarine, this would have been one of the first times the runways would have been used - Tullamarine would not open to commercial traffic until 1970. Also note the huge crowd outside the service - in today's climate, the Melbourne CBD would have been shut down & declared a no-go zone......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cSMQGXICWk

Thanks for the links, they made for interesting reading/viewing.

The whole thing seems so surreal.


It must seem odd that a PM of Australia had no protection staff of any kind with him back then, given they were also in a controversial war that he was politically identified with. Odd by today's standards anywhere and odd, always, outside of the US.
But Australia had no history of political assassinations, either as political/economic acts (as has happened quite often in France to senior politicians), or by deranged people, (as in the US, including Lincoln, McKinley and yes, JFK too. Almost Reagan where the would be assassin thought he'd pull Jodie Foster by doing it).

In the You Tube video, getting off that shiny new RAF VC-10, after Prince Charles, was the UK PM Harold Wilson. Around this time Wilson liked to introduce people to a burly Special Branch Detective, 'this is Fred, his job is to shoot anyone who shoots me!'
This flippancy reflected the fact that the only British PM ever assassinated was in 1812, by a deranged gunman.
 
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Re: 1967: Australian PM goes for a swim, never comes back...

Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:11 am

GDB wrote:
or by deranged people,

Perhaps not successful ones, up to that time. But there was the attempted assassination of Prince Albert, Duke of Edinburgh (second son of Queen Victoria, him very good fella) back in 1868. During a visit by the prince to New South Wales, Michael O'Farrell decided to fire on the prince, wounding him. O'Farrell was later hanged, dispite the prince's suggestion that the sentence be referred to the Queen for consideration. The incident fed into growing antagonism against Catholics with the parliament of NSW passing a law to make it an offence to not drink to the Queen's health.

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