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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:12 pm

There are two courses of action that have been proven, time and time again, to work in situations like these:

1. Thoughts and prayers
2. More guns for everyone.
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Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:13 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43066226

Some awful news coming in from Florida. Yet again it looks like youngsters are paying the price.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:38 pm

Seems that the President favours option 1.

Personally, I doubt that arming the entire population is the solution either.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:39 pm

Multiple fatalities and at least 14 victims that appear to be wounded. Things are still in a bit of chaos, but the shooter has been caught and is heading to a hospital with possible minor wounds.

Basically this is a NRA Happy Valentines gift to Broward County Florida. You can't saturate the country with guns without some people going off on some mental issue.

This is the US these days and we have to learn to simply live with it. The NRA and gun lovers will never let politicians change the laws.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:42 pm

I was getting worried our school children weren't on board with MAGA, great news out of Florida.

Thoughts and prayers for more guns!
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:42 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
There are two courses of action that have been proven, time and time again, to work in situations like these:

1. Thoughts and prayers
2. More guns for everyone.

That collective attitude is the reason why nothing has changed since April 1999
When will the USA look at themselves and demand change?
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:45 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
2. More guns for everyone.


Where has anyone said more guns? I mean really man you need to stop this rabble rousing.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:11 pm

Forget about IS. American students when being armed can be even more dangerous...
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:15 pm

One of the core missions of the NRA is to support the manufacture, distribution and sale of as many guns, rifles and assault weapons as humanly possible. Part of this effort includes lobbying against gun control measures and funding whatever votes are necessary to overturn any existing gun control measures, at both the state and national levels. The goal is to ensure the ongoing growth of weapons in circulation and to prevent anything whatsoever that would reverse the trend, So that in effect is about 30MM people saying more guns is the answer and these lobbying efforts have continued unabated since every single mass shooting in living memory.

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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:22 pm

Ken777 wrote:
Basically this is a NRA Happy Valentines gift to Broward County Florida. You can't saturate the country with guns without some people going off on some mental issue.

This is the US these days and we have to learn to simply live with it. The NRA and gun lovers will never let politicians change the laws.


Indeed. No doubt the usual suspects will be out here to exploit the situation, stirring up the ever present "their coming for our guns" nonsense.

This is a truly unsolvable problem for a lot of reasons, and it's beyond distasteful that the jackasses who've already gotten their way (at the expense of children no less), will continue to holler about their' being the ones 'under attack'. Absolutely pitiful.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:32 pm

Everyone remember to be condescending, accusatory and arrogant when making your arguments for or against guns in this thread.

We need to keep the conversation going.
Stay curious
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:45 pm

CCGPV wrote:
Everyone remember to be condescending, accusatory and arrogant when making your arguments for or against guns in this thread.

We need to keep the conversation going.


I'm not sure I follow your first train of thought...?

But yeah, my argument is that in my perfect world children don't get killed while they're trying to learn.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:50 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
There are two courses of action that have been proven, time and time again, to work in situations like these:

1. Thoughts and prayers
2. More guns for everyone.



You forgot the other classic line:
"This is not the time to be discussing gun control. We must focus on the victims of this tragedy."

Every damn time. Wash, rinse, and repeat.

There will never be any change until the NRA gets it's hand off of our government.

The pro-gun lobby says we should have "more guns!" or "focus on mental health," yet at every opportunity our current government CUTS funding or removes gun restrictions on those with mental health issues.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:51 pm

grozzy wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
There are two courses of action that have been proven, time and time again, to work in situations like these:

1. Thoughts and prayers
2. More guns for everyone.

That collective attitude is the reason why nothing has changed since April 1999
When will the USA look at themselves and demand change?


I actually think that was a post demeaning the two options, not supporting them. The frustration is that these are the two general responses to any of our frequent shootings.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:53 pm

Why is there even a thread on this? This was simply a member of a well regulated militia exercising his right to keep and bear arms. Any other discussion violates the Constitution. So sayeth the "every life is sacred" group.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:53 pm

CCGPV wrote:
Everyone remember to be condescending, accusatory and arrogant when making your arguments for or against guns in this thread.

We need to keep the conversation going.


Watching CNN behaving probably the worst I have ever seen in this situation in an attempt to further gun control is appalling. We can't have a conversation because to stop all mass shootings you have to ban all the guns. Which we know will never happen.

Again to have common sense gun laws you have to use common sense. Which is absent when you blame the NRA and President for this shooting and think that any gun laws will stop this. It won't.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
...


Thanks! For a moment we almost forgot who the real victims are.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:56 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
We can't have a conversation because to stop all mass shootings you have to ban all the guns.


Why are there no mass shootings in Western countries that have not banned guns? Switzerland, Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway....
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:57 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
CCGPV wrote:
Everyone remember to be condescending, accusatory and arrogant when making your arguments for or against guns in this thread.

We need to keep the conversation going.


Watching CNN behaving probably the worst I have ever seen in this situation in an attempt to further gun control is appalling. We can't have a conversation because to stop all mass shootings you have to ban all the guns. Which we know will never happen.

Again to have common sense gun laws you have to use common sense. Which is absent when you blame the NRA and President for this shooting and think that any gun laws will stop this. It won't.[/"quote]


"Common sense gun laws" are a useless sentiment when certain factions of our society refuse to budge on anything. Like I said above: No extra resources for mental health, unfettered access for people with known mental health problems or questionable police records, etc.

Common sense laws like bump stock bans, more stringent background checks, etc. are things that people on both sides of the aisle can agree on. Unfortunately it IS the NRA stranglehold on our government that prevents any of these changes from happening.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:57 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
CCGPV wrote:
Everyone remember to be condescending, accusatory and arrogant when making your arguments for or against guns in this thread.

We need to keep the conversation going.


Watching CNN behaving probably the worst I have ever seen in this situation in an attempt to further gun control is appalling. We can't have a conversation because to stop all mass shootings you have to ban all the guns. Which we know will never happen.

Again to have common sense gun laws you have to use common sense. Which is absent when you blame the NRA and President for this shooting and think that any gun laws will stop this. It won't.


I'm sorry, NIK, but that argument is circular. Fatty McPornstarLover might have not-a-whole-lot to do with the current state of affairs, but the NRA has everything to do with it.

You know the answer yourself, "...to stop all mass shootings...".
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:58 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
Again to have common sense gun laws you have to use common sense. Which is absent when you blame the NRA and President for this shooting and think that any gun laws will stop this. It won't.


Your version of common sense doesn't make any sense.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:02 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
2. More guns for everyone.


Where has anyone said more guns? I mean really man you need to stop this rabble rousing.


p.s. - You're serious?

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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:14 pm

seb146 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
We can't have a conversation because to stop all mass shootings you have to ban all the guns.


Why are there no mass shootings in Western countries that have not banned guns? Switzerland, Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway....


This is my sincere belief, not a studied response, but I'm guessing a matrix of analysis containing variables such as magazine clip size, concealed carry legality, thoroughness of psychiatric evaluation, constitutional code, type of guns permitted, type of ammo permitted, and stringency of licensing process would capably answer that question.

The US has the perfect storm of permissiveness across all of those variables.

EDIT: Sorry, two more points....
1 - There are mass shootings in these countries (Port Arthur, 1996, Oslo, 2011, others...), but they're fewer and less deadly
2 - I think you'd find that many that are frustrated with this state of affairs would be overjoyed with **just** much greater regulation, and not an all-out ban. Start with assault rifles, move to high-capacity clips, then study handguns, and leave rifle hunting largely untouched.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:29 pm

seb146 wrote:
Why is there even a thread on this? This was simply a member of a well regulated militia exercising his right to keep and bear arms. Any other discussion violates the Constitution. So sayeth the "every life is sacred" group.


I suppose you personally know the shooter.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:45 pm

dfwjim1 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Why is there even a thread on this? This was simply a member of a well regulated militia exercising his right to keep and bear arms. Any other discussion violates the Constitution. So sayeth the "every life is sacred" group.


I suppose you personally know the shooter.


Just heading off the defense of him by right wing "life is sacred" types.
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Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:46 pm

Registered Republican and wannabe soldier. Just another MAGAT ... Make America Great Again Terrorist.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:50 pm

wowlookplanes wrote:
seb146 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
We can't have a conversation because to stop all mass shootings you have to ban all the guns.


Why are there no mass shootings in Western countries that have not banned guns? Switzerland, Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway....


This is my sincere belief, not a studied response, but I'm guessing a matrix of analysis containing variables such as magazine clip size, concealed carry legality, thoroughness of psychiatric evaluation, constitutional code, type of guns permitted, type of ammo permitted, and stringency of licensing process would capably answer that question.

The US has the perfect storm of permissiveness across all of those variables.

EDIT: Sorry, two more points....
1 - There are mass shootings in these countries (Port Arthur, 1996, Oslo, 2011, others...), but they're fewer and less deadly
2 - I think you'd find that many that are frustrated with this state of affairs would be overjoyed with **just** much greater regulation, and not an all-out ban. Start with assault rifles, move to high-capacity clips, then study handguns, and leave rifle hunting largely untouched.


Your points will be taken wildly out of context by gun nuts as proving all liberals wan an all-out ban on all guns. They are so laser focused on one tiny phrase they hold higher than any other part of any laws in this country: "right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" while not even talking about "A well regulated militia being necessary." They don't care how many are gunned down as long as guns can be obtained by anyone for any reason at any time, well regulated militia be damned.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:38 am

"Never mistake motion for action." Ernest Hemingway
 
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:38 am

The National Rifle Association and all of it''s members are complicit in the continued carnage.

"Prayers and thoughts, "
"t's the people, not the guns,"
"More guns = more safety"


The cyclical killing continues with Rapid fire semi Automatics and juiced up bump stocks. Why don't we throw in some Nuclear tips as well?

The NRA is greedy, unreliable a,nd undisciplined, with a lack of stewardship for the responsible ownership of guns. .

From 1999 till now, all they lobby for is less background checks and less stringent restrictions on firearms. All we get are a bunch more mass murders.

If any of you are a NRA member, you better do some soul searching and question where your funds are going. You are funding a machine that is destroying lives . All they thoughts and prayers aren't doing anything but getting people killed.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:59 am

I would like to remind everyone to keep it uncivil and refrain from not using fiery rhetoric, distorted facts, and "my team" type attitudes.

Lets keep this groundbreaking and educational thread going.
Stay curious
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:08 am

einsteinboricua wrote:
There are two courses of action that have been proven, time and time again, to work in situations like these:

1. Thoughts and prayers
2. More guns for everyone.


Thats irony, I hope for you.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:11 am

Lather, rinse, repeat. I guess these things will just keep happening until we've all been murdered. Hey Europe, there will be a lot of free land available soon.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:13 am

wowlookplanes wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
Where has anyone said more guns? I mean really man you need to stop this rabble rousing.


p.s. - You're serious?

https://www.google.com/search?safe=off& ... m+teachers


Thank you for saving me the trouble to Google it. And let's not forget the ever popular "well, if they had had guns, they would have served as deterrent and the shooter would have thought twice about it".

wowlookplanes wrote:
I actually think that was a post demeaning the two options, not supporting them. The frustration is that these are the two general responses to any of our frequent shootings.

Once again, thank you for explaining. Glad to see someone gets the sarcasm of the post :highfive:

bagoldex wrote:
Registered Republican and wannabe soldier. Just another MAGAT ... Make America Great Again Terrorist. mentally ill lone wolf

Fixed it. How dare you refer to a patriot as a terrorist! That's only for brown people who yell God is Great.
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:13 am

Once again another mass shooting in a school, apparently exceeding the death toll of Columbine, CO. A 19 year old expelled ex-student, allegedly committed this act of gun mass terror. Yes, once again condolences to the victims killed or wounded. When I was in school in the 1960's we had to do what would be and what would be useless 'nuke duck and cover' drills. Now we need drills for a very real and far too common reason - mass shootings. And the usual and some newer explanations:

    NRA/2nd Amendment/too easy access to military class guns
    Trump and other politicians.
    Mental/psychological illness, lack of affordable or enough mental health care, pills that don't work or make things worse.
    Bad/broken families and communities
    Poverty
    Revenge for Harassment/bullying/assault/discipline/insult
    Social media
    Pressure to be popular
    Racism/ethnic hate
    Video game, movie and TV show violence
    Schools and families don't teach 'morals' to the kids
    Poor design of schools or fear of making them like prisons
    American culture
    Criminal gangs
    Illegal immigrants
    Massive media coverage, now worse with the the internet, that gives a lot of attention to losers who what attention for their problem and get it.
    Put more cops/teachers with guns in our schools.
Like almost all of us, we don't want any more of these mass shooting/murders. Problem is how to solve it. Our politicians have no idea but to not lose bribes from the NRA types, or can show real leadership as to get away from it. Can't stop violent media or parents/individuals from buying it. Facebook won't do anything to help reduce bullying and offensive posts. We are not Europe or Japan, our culture and history, having no major wars within a 150 years within our borders. Maybe we need to show the blood, the carnage, but other laws and fear of lawsuits as to privacy rights prevent that. So, 17 more dead, the shooter somehow surviving (and should have been killed by the cops) 3000+ kids traumatized, the schools unusable for likely weeks, and parts of it never, millions in physical and mental health care. All become some sick jerk thought a mass gun killing would solve his problems. I don't know how we end this carnage, sadly we need to find ways to reduce and end it or we will die as a country and society.
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:13 am

na wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
There are two courses of action that have been proven, time and time again, to work in situations like these:

1. Thoughts and prayers
2. More guns for everyone.


Thats irony, I hope for you.


Looking over the border, any American with brain cells underneath the hair can see that the only way that works is NO guns at all for people who have no serious reason for owning one (and I mean 1, not 5, or 10, like some idiots do).
 
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:15 am

17 kids are dead tonight. 17. I want everyone to think about that. Seventeen kids gunned down at school. All the people immediately posting about guns being a right are missing the big picture. People are going to eventually demand a change. It may take awhile but it is going to happen.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:19 am

Teachers should be trained in the proper use of concealed weapons and carry said weapons. Problem solved.
 
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:39 am

NIKV69 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
2. More guns for everyone.


Where has anyone said more guns? I mean really man you need to stop this rabble rousing.


Do you bother to watch the news? Did you watch 60 Minutes last Sunday?!! Your Republican/NRA buddies say it all the time, easier access to guns and arming the entire country is their solution to gun violence! :shock:
 
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:53 am

DiamondFlyer wrote:
Come and take them.

This question is not aimed at you specifically, but you could certainly give me your views which would probably align closely with many on your side of the gun issue.

The deaths of scores of innocents often gets indirectly brushed off by gun advocates as the "price we must pay" for gun rights. I wonder what these gun advocates would think if they themselves are asked to pay the price for their gun rights with their own children, spouses or other loved ones?

Many gun advocates also say that "now is not the time to discuss gun control" in the wake of these tragedies and that they are sending their "thoughts and prayers" to the victims. Surely if "thoughts and prayers" suffice as adequate consolation to the victims’ families they should be more than enough consolation for any "loss" gun advocates may face due to the enactment of gun control measures?

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Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:18 am

The footage from inside the school, taken by students during the shooting, is horrific. I highly suggest you avoid watching it.

What is wrong with people?
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:33 am

Please refrain from personal attacks and petty name-calling. I'll assume we're all reasonably educated adults, so please act like you can make a cohesive argument without resorting to childish remarks.

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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:37 am

The NRA and the muppets in congress whose asses they've got their hands up have successfully weathered many school shootings before without having to give any concessions, on the contrary...

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/ ... ill-283768

If kids dying due to extremely easy access to guns has not encouraged the nations to take actions before, it won't start now. This train has long departed the station.

Maybe if a shooter entered a maternity and killed a bunch of pregnant ladies? The ethical conundrum posed to the pro-gun / anti-abortion crowd would create an interesting neo-con debate...
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:58 am

CCGPV wrote:
The footage from inside the school, taken by students during the shooting, is horrific. I highly suggest you avoid watching it.

What is wrong with people?


On the contrary, it should be compulsory viewing. Only then will people start to understand the real impact of these mass shootings.

Sanitised news reporting benefits nobody. Show the horror.
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:04 am

scbriml wrote:
CCGPV wrote:
The footage from inside the school, taken by students during the shooting, is horrific. I highly suggest you avoid watching it.

What is wrong with people?


On the contrary, it should be compulsory viewing. Only then will people start to understand the real impact of these mass shootings.

Sanitised news reporting benefits nobody. Show the horror.


You know what, I totally agree with you on that.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:20 am

They have said on one news castle that there have been 17 school shootings in the last 35 days. That is since January 1 st.

That is on Trump's watch so there will be a LOT of pressure for the NRA to deliver far more campaign contributions.
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:42 am

Reports are coming out that it was a "lone wolf" attack and we should all carry on with our lives since it was not ISIS and it was in a heavily gun loving state so why do we need to care?

BTW, this is one of the same states that wants to ban abortion completely because every life is sacred and precious. How the hell do they justify those two things? They defend gunning down children but refuse to allow abortion? It may be a little off topic but seriously: How can you ammosexual neanderthals justify this? One type of killing is acceptable but another is not?

MODS: Another round of children being murdered en masse and we are supposed to remain calm? I get what you are saying but c'mon.
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:16 am

A handgun can be said to be for legitimate self-defense.

A rifle can be said to be for legitimate self-reliance and sustinance.

Other types of non-autimatic weapons can be said to be for legimiate recreation or collectible purposes.

Self-defense, self-reliance, and recreation are all legitimate CIVILIAN uses of weaponry.

An AR-15 (yet again!) and any weapons like it can ONLY be said by any thinking common sense person to be designed for killing the GREATEST number of human beings in the SHORTEST amount of time.

The only legitimate arena any thinking individual could imagine for such a capability is an active MILITARY scenario, aka WAR.

In a civilian peacetime setting, I can't see any other use for such a weapon other than for killing the GREATEST number of human beings in the SHORTEST amount of time.

But I will even give in here: lets say we should not ban these weapons (even though common sense screams the contrary). Ok.

When you want to drive a car, you need training and testing. When you want to drive a large commercial vehicle (bus, truck), surprise surprise, you need far more rigorous training, testing, and investment of money in licences. You also have stricter controls. If you want to pilot an airplane or captain a ship, guess what? Even more rigorous training and more money!!

So why isn't it the same for weapons? Want to own a gun, fine, you need training and testing. You want a-rifle? Even more training and money and licences.

Want an AR-15? Fine (yes crazy but bear with me). But you will need to first pass a medical examination (which must be repeated every 5 years), and do a-few weeks of military style training on weapons usage and discipline. For the licence? Get ready to pony up some serious cash, and you need to register the weapon every year like a motor vehicle. Want to sell it? You must do so in a specific facility, if you sell it on your own and then can't renew the registration you go to jail.

Want to be a big boy? Then do the training, pass the exams, pony up the cash, and do the yearly paperwork.

How can treating a semi the at least as the same as a motor vehicle NOT make sense??!
 
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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:02 am

The biggest threat to Americans are their fellow citizens. The civil war continues unabated. I guess one could view this as Darwinism in action.

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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:32 am

OH thoughts and prayers. Yep that's going to help a lot of people. Since when has a prayer ever saved anybody or changed anything ?
If you want change so this does not happen YOU the USA need to do it.
Or are you going to wait until a few more innocent kids are killed ??
18 school shootings in 2018 , and its not even the end of February.
Guns don't kill people, its the IDIOTS you sell them too

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Re: Florida: Reports of active shooter in school

Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:07 am

Cue the conspiracies...like back in Sandy Hook.
1000´s were involved in a huge cover-up, right?

This must be the same right here, this whole event simply never happened!
An evil plot, discrediting the poor POOR NRA.

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