Well played Kim, well played.
I remember when Obama first suggested he would meet with leaders like Kim Jong-un and everyone on the right said he shouldn't be meeting with our enemies and how stupid he was to even suggest meeting them. Now Trump is going to meet with Kim Jong-un and everyone one the right is saying he should get the Nobel Peace prize. How quickly those on the right have changed their tune on this.
Case in point:http://www.instagram.com/p/Bj8lnJOFse5/
What a joke the right wing media is.
I'm also sure any deal NK would agree is going to look a lot like the Iran deal. Wouldn't that be something if Trump basically agreed to the Iran deal with NK right after ripping up the Iran deal with Iran?
The irony is not lost on me.
They could, if they really wanted to, derail this and Trump completely.
The Republicans did all they could to derail the Iran deal on multiple occasions. Should be fun if the democrats do the same! I can just imagine the cries of rage from the hard right wingers if that happened.
I will call this summit and the Trump diplomacy a great triumph as soon as international observers certify the DPRK has dismantled and shipped out or destroyed 98% of its nuclear infrastructure, and we haven't given up an ounce of support for our regional allies.
Too late. We already threw South Korea under the bus by deciding to suspend joint exercises. But at least we got something from North Korea in exchange, so...oh who the hell am I kidding, we just gave that away too.
I predicted earlier on that Trump would offer a full withdrawal from the Korean Peninsular in return for nothing worthwhile. Looks like I wasn't far off the mark.
Trump's ignorance was also in full stride. He gave away joint exercises with the South and got NOTHING in return. Blind siding his own military and showing his ignorance on the importance of training for the military.
China will be very grateful for Mr Trump's tireless efforts on the matter.
Even if you are a hardcore Trump critic, you gotta admit that it's worth trying a new approach now that the old approach didn't change anything. Similar to the Obama era Cuba politics.
Conservatives L O V E D
the restoration of relations with Cuba.
I have been sitting on my couch gloating over the lamestream media be so depressed this morning s f trying to grasp at straws on how these last two days were horrible and Trump “gave away the store”
Most of the rest of us are gainfully employed, so don't have the time to sit around on the couch all day gloating.
The critics just can't come to grips with the fact that, yeah, the dude has gotten more right in the foreign policy sphere than he has wrong.
Are you serious? Or have you forgotten about the trade wars, pulling out of the Iran deal, making manlove to Saudi Arabia and pulling out of Paris Agreement.
Then again, you were the guy who was advocating a nuclear attack on Mecca in the Non Av forums a few years ago, so one really shouldn't be surprised by this.
He's gained more on the issue of North Korea than any POTUS since the Korean War. That's admirable as hell. Whether that is sustainable, who knows.
But what does he actually gained? A very loosely worded "agreement" from the leader of NK to tear down a nuclear facility that already collapsed back in April. I've got no opposition to dialogue, but to claim this as a win and to give credibility to the Kim regime is a total joke. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... tion-china
My recollection is that Obama released Iranian money which had been frozen.
It was not US money.
He knows this, but repeating the talking point that "Obama was giving Iran billions of our cash" scores you lots of points in right wing circles.
First time Kim breaks a promise, then is the time to go back to waving guns around.
What a shame Un didn't promise to stop uranium nor plutonium production.
I guess when you're spewing so much bile it makes it difficult to separate fact from fiction, but Obama didn't give up billions, it was Iran's money all along.
And he actually got something in return for it.
And if congress had been cooperative, the money could have been some firm orders for Boeing aircraft. You know, supporting american jobs and all that!
De-escalation of the war of words is nothing?
You seem to forget that it was Trump who escalated the war of words, right? Calling Kim "Rocket Man" and tweeting about how big his nuclear button is.
I'll leave you with this wonderful video of then candidate Obama describing how we need a new foriegn policy where we talk with our enemies
I'll give you a video of the right wing media getting their panties in a twist about Obama doing just that:https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj8lnJOFse5/
Have you forgotten that NK is a dictatorship that allows its citizens no freedoms whatsoever?
It's weird. After the Iran Deal and the normalisation of relations with Cuba, the right wing media was filled with stories about how the West had no place doing business with evil regimes like that who don't allow their citizens political freedoms and who's governments torture prisoners. Weirdly the right wing media has been totally silent about North Korean concentration camps, torture and government repression. But it's probably just a coincidence, right?
Of course, all of this ignores the fact that the Iranians get to vote for their president. But facts have a liberal bias anyway, I suppose.