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James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:01 am

He is probably the only candidate that would give the Republicans a chance of winning.
The Dems would be crazy not to nominate him if he chose to go that way.

He has written a book.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/book ... yalty.html
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:03 am

Bernie catch 22. He's an independent. And when he belonged to a party(prior to 2016) he was a republican.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:07 am

No.

And no.

We need to move on.

No more Clintons, no more Bushes, and definitely no more Trumps. And no one who has been remotely close to touching any of them, please.

New ideas, sign me up for that.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:11 am

Ummm no. He's a lawman, not a politician. He is also both liked and disliked on both sides of the aisle.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:11 am

Jouhou wrote:
Bernie catch 22. He's an independent. And when he belonged to a party(prior to 2016) he was a republican.


On that note have to revise my prior post.

No Bernie either.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:12 am

Maybe electing a president that will not divide the country would be a better idea. Revenge was never a productive motivation.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:13 am

jetero wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
Bernie catch 22. He's an independent. And when he belonged to a party(prior to 2016) he was a republican.


On that note have to revise my prior post.

No Bernie either.


I want the dem candidate to be a gen xer. No more boomers, for the love of god.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:21 am

MSPbrandon wrote:
Ummm no. He's a lawman, not a politician. He is also both liked and disliked on both sides of the aisle.


Well - hopefully some new faces on the Democratic side, besides Clintons, Biden, Kerry for nearly 3 decades.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:22 am

Jouhou wrote:
He's an independent.
He is whatever he wants to be. As you highlight, Bernie was an independent who ran in the Dem primary.
jetero wrote:
We need to move on.
No more Clintons, no more Bushes, and definitely no more Trumps. And no one who has been remotely close to touching any of them, please.
New ideas, sign me up for that.
Comey is not from any political dynasty! And the 2020 election will be all about the Trump era.
Comey was fired by Trump and he is an ex prosecutor who prosecuted Mafia crime families - and now in his book he is drawing a direct parallel between Trump and the traditional mafia.

He is as far from trump as one can get.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:23 am

Jouhou wrote:
I want the dem candidate to be a gen xer. No more boomers, for the love of god.
Gosh, do you have a preferential hair color?

seahawk wrote:
Maybe electing a president that will not divide the country would be a better idea. Revenge was never a productive motivation.
Oh, I see you want someone who can bridge the gap between Trump and Seb146?

Good luck with that.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:28 am

salttee wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
I want the dem candidate to be a gen xer. No more boomers, for the love of god.
Gosh, do you have a preferential hair color?


I agree with JouHou, saltee.

We need to pass the torch.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:32 am

salttee wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
I want the dem candidate to be a gen xer. No more boomers, for the love of god.
Gosh, do you have a preferential hair color?

seahawk wrote:
Maybe electing a president that will not divide the country would be a better idea. Revenge was never a productive motivation.
Oh, I see you want someone who can bridge the gap between Trump and Seb146?

Good luck with that.


The clintons, bushes, and trump have something in common: they're all boomers. It's time for them to give up the reigns.

I love Comey, but he's not a politician. and if we are nominating trump-fired justice officials who aren't politicians, I want Preet. Preet Bharara is my favorite!
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:34 am

salttee wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
I want the dem candidate to be a gen xer. No more boomers, for the love of god.
Gosh, do you have a preferential hair color?

seahawk wrote:
Maybe electing a president that will not divide the country would be a better idea. Revenge was never a productive motivation.
Oh, I see you want someone who can bridge the gap between Trump and Seb146?

Good luck with that.


I´d take a president with a vision for advancing the whole country and not just with one for winning against the opposition. More like Obama much less like Trump.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:34 am

jetero wrote:
I agree with JouHou, saltee.

We need to pass the torch.
It's beyond me how what "generation" someone is from has any bearing on whether they would make a good president.
The "generation" thing is just a media construct AFIK.

Are there not gen xers" who are KKK members? Fortune 500 board members? Bernie fans?

I'm lost with that one.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:38 am

salttee wrote:
jetero wrote:
I agree with JouHou, saltee.

We need to pass the torch.
It's beyond me how what "generation" someone is from has any bearing on whether they would make a good president.
The "generation" thing is just a media construct AFIK.

Are there not gen xers" who are KKK members? Fortune 500 board members? Bernie fans?

I'm lost with that one.


Of course there are.

You answered your own question.

I’d vote for you saltee, no doubt.

But I understand what jouhou is saying.
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:40 am

seahawk wrote:
I´d take a president with a vision for advancing the whole country and not just with one for winning against the opposition. More like Obama much less like Trump.
Of course, you've been trolling the Trump line here for the last year.
You have lots of credibility! (not)
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:43 am

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Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:45 am

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jetero wrote:
Of course there are.

You answered your own question.
Clever

Are you moving in with afcjets, Nickie and Dfw now?

Can I expect to see a lot of this kind of logic from you in the future?


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:47 am

What the hell happened to this forum...
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:52 am

salttee wrote:
seahawk wrote:
I´d take a president with a vision for advancing the whole country and not just with one for winning against the opposition. More like Obama much less like Trump.
Of course, you've been trolling the Trump line here for the last year.
You have lots of credibility! (not)


Indeed I have. First of all it is a bit of fun to trigger the anti-Trump faction in here, but lately I am also wondering if there still is a huge difference between Trump-haters and Trump-lovers. It seems like both are mostly motivated by hate for the other group and winning over the other group is all that matters. Such a strong polarisation of the US society should concern every person on the planet, because of the political and economical power of the USA as well as due to their military might. Nobody can want lasting chaos and instability in the USA.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:59 am

seahawk wrote:
It seems like both are mostly motivated by hate for the other group.


#BothSides
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:02 am

----> seahawk: Oh please!
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:06 am

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----> seahawk: Oh please!


So which qualification does Comey have that makes him a great president, except for standing up to Trump and being fired by Trump. I grant him that not giving in to the pressure by Trump is a plus, but what else?

Is he knowledgeable in economics, foreign relations, working with congress and so on? Did he hold an elected government position on the state or local level? Just because you have a president that set the bar ultra low for qualification, does imho not mean that this is the way to go forward.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:11 am

salttee wrote:
jetero wrote:
I agree with JouHou, saltee.

We need to pass the torch.
It's beyond me how what "generation" someone is from has any bearing on whether they would make a good president.
The "generation" thing is just a media construct AFIK.

Are there not gen xers" who are KKK members? Fortune 500 board members? Bernie fans?

I'm lost with that one.


So, if you remember the Clinton email thing, if you ignore the damn right wing conspiracy theories there was something to glean from that: she really never understood the importance of cyber security and was incredibly sloppy and complacent and even blew off warnings. She just didn't get it.

Don't even get me started on the technological incompetence of the tweeter in chief.

Not all boomers are bad, and not all boomers suck at technology. In fact, they largely created today's technology. And most understand how to USE it. But what we have today bears no resemblance to what they had in their formative years. Those of us who saw the rise of the internet in our formative years seemingly have innately learned to protect ourselves from the dangers. The younger generations are more resistant to "fake news", phishing scams, etc.

So why a gen xer and not millenial? Because Millennials aren't old enough to run for president. We need a leader that can truly understand the
challenges an internet connected world presents.

Having a leader who is stuck in a 1980s mentality isn't going to help us.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:23 am

Jouhou wrote:
Not all boomers are bad, and not all boomers suck at technology. In fact, they largely created today's technology.


Vive la COBOL.
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:33 am

Jouhou wrote:
Having a leader who is stuck in a 1980s mentality isn't going to help us.
I'm almost too old to be considered a "boomer". But I remember it well.

People try to put us d-down talkin' 'bout my generation
Just because we get around talkin' 'bout my generation
Things they do look awful c-c-cold talkin' 'bout my generation
I hope I die before I get old talkin' bout my generation


We used to believe that kind of stuff too.
Until we were shown otherwise.


Then there was the guy who said Don't trust anyone over 30
He later changed his mind about that.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:51 am

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So, if you remember the Clinton email thing............. there was something to glean from that: she really never understood the importance of cyber security and was incredibly sloppy and complacent and even blew off warnings.

IMHO that's a lot of horse pucky.

The only thing she didn't understand is that the Republican scandal making machine would subpoena enough random material to stumble on to the fact that she had done that - and then be able to make a scandal out of it.

She was ahead of the game technologically - she didn't want to leave herself open to disloyal State department employees who would be able to break in and read her private conversations and turn them against her. She understood cyber security better than you!

Remember, she was the Secretary of State she was the one who knew better than anyone else what had to be kept under wraps as far as foreigners are concerned. I am willing to bet that she used the same defensive security that this old dinosaur does vs Facebook - she didn't put anything online that had to be kept secure. There are no allegations that anything of hers was ever leaked until the Republicans started issuing subpoenas.

The whole E-mail thing is just so much bullshit and the gen xers bought into it hook line and sinker.

BTW
Did you know that the two previous Secs of State did the same thing??

You picked a poor example of gen x prowess with that one.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:54 am

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Remember, she was the Secretary of State she was the one who knew better than anyone else what had to be kept under wraps


No, as Secretary of State she was supposed to know what had to be kept under wraps. As the FBI concluded, she instead was extremely careless about it.
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:01 am

Airstud wrote:
salttee wrote:
Remember, she was the Secretary of State she was the one who knew better than anyone else what had to be kept under wraps


No, as Secretary of State she was supposed to know what had to be kept under wraps. As the FBI concluded, she instead was extremely careless about it.

What did she give away? be specific, or else admit that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:03 am

Airstud wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
Not all boomers are bad, and not all boomers suck at technology. In fact, they largely created today's technology.


Vive la COBOL.


Vive la COBOL-derived Pascal for me.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:07 am

jetero wrote:
Airstud wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
Not all boomers are bad, and not all boomers suck at technology. In fact, they largely created today's technology.


Vive la COBOL.


Vive la COBOL-derived Pascal for me.
Once again the youngsters miss the boat.

I'll take assembly language any day, that way I know what code is being put in.
Your Pascal compiler may have had an update that you don't know about.
For really getting into the nitty gritty, you need to understand the microcode language that the CPU uses.
I've done a lot of that.

Those high level languages are for bots, you pay em by the hour.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:13 am

jetero wrote:
Airstud wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
Not all boomers are bad, and not all boomers suck at technology. In fact, they largely created today's technology.


Vive la COBOL.


Vive la COBOL-derived Pascal for me.


FORTRAN.

Anyways, I don't know if you know how information security goes in the government... But Clinton's situation is not unique. There's tons of government employees who don't understand how these secure networks function and just throw what they were taught right out the window and say Fuck it, I'm forwarding this to my personal email so I can view this at any terminal. They just don't get it. And it's never the younger ones who do this.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:17 am

Maybe some of them know more than you.

Frankly, you come off as naive.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:26 am

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Maybe some of them know more than you.

Frankly, you come off as naive.


Uh no. That's not naive to get frustrated at co-workers risking spillage. The insane levels of security are there for a reason, don't bypass them no matter how much of a pain in the ass it might be.

Also if you're a boomer and feel insulted, don't be. You built the internet. We lived the internet. That's the difference i'm driving home. Those who built it see it as a tool, and pay attention to issues of functionality. Those who live and breathe in it pay attention to its effects on society, because it is integrated into our society.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:02 am

"frustrated at co-workers risking spillage" has nothing to do with the conversation about Hillary's E-mail server.

I'm not insulted, it's just that from my vantage point I can see how myopic is your assignation of different levels of knowledge or competence or whatever to different generations. From the standpoint of logic, how is this theory of yours different from racism?

You're doing the same thing the right wingers here do: mixing the general and the specific.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:20 am

Of course every human is unique. But while using broad categories for what I think is ideal, I recognize I'm using a broad category. Obama is a young boomer and does not fit what I'm describing. But still, let the younger folks give it a go. Please.
 
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Re: James Comey for President in 2020

Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:35 am

As for these justice officials fired by trump, I absolutely do want them to enter politics, but I want them to run for Congress instead. I want Bharara, Comey, and Yates to run for office. We need lawmakers who understand the law and it's effects and know the value of the rule of law. And if they can learn politics in congress, then maybe the presidency might sound right.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:38 am

There are two kinds of people, those who divide the world into groups and .............................
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:39 am

salttee wrote:
There are two kinds of people, those who divide the world into groups and .............................


Actually all humans categorize things. It's how our brains work. Otherwise we'd have trouble seeing patterns and remembering things.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:00 pm

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As for these justice officials fired by trump, I absolutely do want them to enter politics, but I want them to run for Congress instead. I want Bharara, Comey, and Yates to run for office. We need lawmakers who understand the law and it's effects and know the value of the rule of law. And if they can learn politics in congress, then maybe the presidency might sound right.


Understanding the law and following the law/guidelines are two different things. Comey and Bharara blatantly violated following the law and dept guidelines. Trump has an excuse, what is theirs?

They are good for CNN, nothing more.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:57 pm

2020.... Corey Booker on the Dems side... he is grooming and positioning himself with every C-Span frame he appears in.

I don't have any specifics for you. Just my gut feeling and from general observations.

I do have a right to my opinion whether the majority here condones it, or not.
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:20 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
As for these justice officials fired by trump, I absolutely do want them to enter politics, but I want them to run for Congress instead. I want Bharara, Comey, and Yates to run for office. We need lawmakers who understand the law and it's effects and know the value of the rule of law. And if they can learn politics in congress, then maybe the presidency might sound right.


Understanding the law and following the law/guidelines are two different things. Comey and Bharara blatantly violated following the law and dept guidelines. Trump has an excuse, what is theirs?

They are good for CNN, nothing more.


Not even Trump claimed preet did anything wrong if I remember correctly. They didn't bother spinning it. And comeys " violations" are political spin, 100%
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:32 pm

Jouhou wrote:
Not even Trump claimed preet did anything wrong if I remember correctly.

You should read SDNY judges' remarks.

Jouhou wrote:
They didn't bother spinning it. And comeys " violations" are political spin, 100%


When was the last time an FBI director had a press conference about an active investigation?

Facebook slowly spoiled HRC chances and Comey hit the final nail. Dems can spin all they want, those are the facts.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:43 pm

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Maybe electing a president that will not divide the country would be a better idea. Revenge was never a productive motivation.


Politicians don't divide people. They do it themselves.

Only play for the Dems is Biden or Cuomo. If they go full whacko with Harris or Bernie. Well....We know what will happen.
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NIKV69 wrote:
seahawk wrote:
Maybe electing a president that will not divide the country would be a better idea. Revenge was never a productive motivation.


Politicians don't divide people. They do it themselves.

Only play for the Dems is Biden or Cuomo. If they go full whacko with Harris or Bernie. Well....We know what will happen.


Unfortunately for us whoever gets the nomination will win due to the real untruthful slimeball, and that very well could be Bernie. Thanks, Repubs.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:38 pm

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Understanding the law and following the law/guidelines are two different things. Comey and Bharara blatantly violated following the law and dept guidelines.

Typical pubbie behavior: the empty accusation. What law, and be specific or admit that you don't know what you're talking about.
Who are you to interpret FBI internal guidelines - BTW what guidlines?

dtw2hyd wrote:
You should read SDNY judges' remarks.

What remarks? Link?
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:56 pm

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Unfortunately for us whoever gets the nomination will win due to the real untruthful slimeball, and that very well could be Bernie. Thanks, Repubs.


Actually the dynamic is not clear as of now. I can see Cuomo entering but also waiting till 2024. Warren will run because she doesn't know better, same with Harris. Actually I think Biden will win the nomination if Cuomo doesn't run.
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NIKV69 wrote:
jetero wrote:

Unfortunately for us whoever gets the nomination will win due to the real untruthful slimeball, and that very well could be Bernie. Thanks, Repubs.


Actually the dynamic is not clear as of now. I can see Cuomo entering but also waiting till 2024. Warren will run because she doesn't know better, same with Harris. Actually I think Biden will win the nomination if Cuomo doesn't run.


Warren wont. She refused to run in 2016 despite people petitioning her to run.
 
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I want the dem candidate to be a gen xer. No more boomers, for the love of god.

Both my countries have young people as head of state/head of government. It is so refreshing in so many ways!

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Baby boomers have done far too much damage to this world. I hope that more countries do what is needed to kick them out.

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The clintons, bushes, and trump have something in common: they're all boomers. It's time for them to give up the reigns.

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zkojq wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
I want the dem candidate to be a gen xer. No more boomers, for the love of god.

Both my countries have young people as head of state/head of government. It is so refreshing in so many ways!

Image

Baby boomers have done far too much damage to this world. I hope that more countries do what is needed to kick them out.

Jouhou wrote:
The clintons, bushes, and trump have something in common: they're all boomers. It's time for them to give up the reigns.

:checkmark:


The baby boomers are going to be dying off over the next twenty years and by 2028 they should be irrelevant from an electoral and political standpoint.

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Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos