Whatever, believe the Russians then, they have been cooperating and telling the truth from the beginning, right? BTW are you going to tell us why you are here and just posting in this particular threat?
I don't believe
, the God provided me with brain of my own — i'm perfectly willing to apply it to develop my own opinion on the matters i find interesting. These days no one can be implicitly trusted regardless of affiliation, credentials or displayed output of sheer conviction that he or she is right. Trust me, I know what i'm talking about
Seriously though, as I already told you right from the start of this discussion, in modern times reasonable individual should not neglect his mental hygiene
, lest he would wake one day being very sure that the Earth, in fact, is flat. Not sure what's your opinion on this, but i personally find such perspective quite unappealing. Besides the myriad of other benefits, adherence to this -admittedly unsolicited- advice will help you develop a valuable skill of giving zero fucks about loud claims of whatever kind and focusing on actions
of the claimant, his allies and associates. Despite all the attempts of the upper management of this investigation to pull an owl over a dirigible and somehow connect Russian Military to this mess regardless of the evidence they have on hand, actual investigation is progressing in the right direction.
Just out of curiousity, care to give me your best guess, what MH17 and Georgia
have in common?
On the side note, I have to admit that I find it very amusing when people that do not know two shits about the subject find it appropriate to ridicule what is being said by Russian side, because apparently it's nonsense, trolling, misinformation, et cetera, outrageous bullshit all around. Everybody lies, Russians are no exception, but rabid ignorants that have no clue how the missiles fly IMO should STFU and go familiarize themselves with topic of discussion before attempting to partake in it. As you have probably already guessed, i'm talking about the 'ridiculous' Russian claim about the alleged involvement of Ukrainian combat aircraft in the MH17 Disaster.
Contrary to misconception that is popular among the less than knowledgeable individuals, this version(and it was actually a version, one among many) was backed with substantial amount of actual evidence. Specifically,
a. Tracking logs of a number of long-range surveillance radars.
b. Material evidence, including but not limited to bits and pieces of the SAM missile that took down MH17.
c. Intelligence reports. According to vetted and long since proven sufficiently reliable source of relevant RUMINT, Russian Military Intelligence found out that the Ukrainian SAM unit will be deployed in the area, its composition, strength, deployment areas, et cetera even before the Commanding Officer of said SAM unit, including the intel on why they are deployed and what they are supposed to be doing.
d. Testimonies of eye-witnesses.
e. Other means, either minor and/or unknown to me.
So, how this 'Ukrainian Su-25 shot down MH17' version came to be?
It is well-known that after it was hit by surface-to-air missile MH17 broke apart during the uncontrollable descend leaving behind a cloud of falling debris, some of which was radio reflective. Some of the falling parts of Boeing-777 were mistakenly classified as aircraft by long-range surveillance radar of unknown type that was deployed on Russian territory. Put simply, it was a false alarm that happened in very inappropriate time. Before the Dutch investigators even begun figuring out how to approach solving all this shitshow, Russian professional community already determined that the missile was manufactured in 1985-86 by identifying and tracking down surviving electronic components of the missile. Fun fact, a number of the identified components DO NOT BELONG to original design of 9M38 of any modification. Moreover, they were never used in ground- or ship-based SAM; rather, the components in question were used in certain Soviet air-to-air
missiles, particularly in R-23 and R-60. 156th SA Missile Regiment of Ukrainian Armed Forces was deployed in the area at the time of incident, it was actively maneuvering and running various drills, including providing of the combat support to friendly combat aircraft, which also weren't idle. Throw in the reports of the people on the ground and voila, this is how the whole theory about Su-25 shooting down MH17 was born.
Just in case it's not quite clear what i'm trying to convey, point being: no matter how ridiculous this version looks to ignorant observer, it wasn't just conjured from nothing by Russians just for shits and giggles. Developing, testing and discarding the invalid hypotheses is just how investigations work.