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Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:10 pm

Ronaldo's third was one of the best goals I have ever seen, WC or not. My picks before the tournament were Belgium and France, but the way France played today, they are going nowhere. I hope they pick it up. But as long as it's not Germany or Brazil AGAIN, I will be happy.
 
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:48 pm

I think qualifications should not be bound by geography to avert the teams that look out of place and at the same time bring up the competition level. For example a qualification group of Germany , Greece, Saudi, Peru , and Australia would bring the best teams to the Cup while at the same time bringing up the competition in the qualfications. By playing qualification on the higher level , it would bring other teams level up or at least they wouldn't look so startled .
 
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:22 pm

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I don't expect my country, Australia, to do much. I'm just glad that we made it to the World Cup. I would be happy if Tim Cahill scores a goal.


Australia did really well today, I'm tempted to say that while France obviously has the better players, Australia displayed the better team spirit and team performance today. The fact that France won was a matter of centimeters, the ref wouldn't have given the goal without goal line technology.

Argentina on the other hand was quite the disappointment, they need to get their act together or there's a realistic chance they might not survive the group stage. Messi missing the penalty is of course especially humiliating after last night's Ronaldo show.

...easily one of the best game I've ever witnessed, a match between to favorites that really delivered on its promises. CR7's performance was galactic. Result was fair too, even though the 2-1 was entirely De Gea's doing, the 1-1 shouldn't have been a goal in the first place (I don't know how the VAR let Costa's hit pass) but all in all this game set a very high standard for upcoming matches.
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:37 pm

How about Iceland! Could have scored 2-3 more goals. Great effort.

Agree fully on CR7’s last goal. Fantastic!
 
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:08 pm

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Australia did really well today, I'm tempted to say that while France obviously has the better players, Australia displayed the better team spirit and team performance today.


Agreed, they were pretty unlucky to lose today.

lugie wrote:
Argentina on the other hand was quite the disappointment, they need to get their act together or there's a realistic chance they might not survive the group stage. Messi missing the penalty is of course especially humiliating after last night's Ronaldo show.


It must be hard when your international team isn't as good as your club side! Messi never looks as good for Argentina as he does for Barca.

Good result for Iceland and shows their result against England at Euro 2016 was no fluke.
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:12 pm

Go Iceland Go Croatia!
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:53 am

Messi was a huge disappointment today, but you have give credit to the excellent defense and goal tending by Iceland. Nigeria tried today, but just didn't have it vs. Croatia. Peru gave a challenge to Denmark. I live in NJ is near an area with one of the largest numbers of Peruvians in the USA and they celebrated a long drought from the WC, despite the loss. Sunday - Germany v. Mexico . I hope it lives up to the hype. There is also a large community of Mexicans near me and you know all of them will be cheering their home country on.
 
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:05 am

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777Jet wrote:
I don't expect my country, Australia, to do much. I'm just glad that we made it to the World Cup. I would be happy if Tim Cahill scores a goal.


Australia did really well today, I'm tempted to say that while France obviously has the better players, Australia displayed the better team spirit and team performance today. The fact that France won was a matter of centimeters, the ref wouldn't have given the goal without goal line technology.

Argentina on the other hand was quite the disappointment, they need to get their act together or there's a realistic chance they might not survive the group stage. Messi missing the penalty is of course especially humiliating after last night's Ronaldo show.


I was happy with Australia's performance despite the loss. Interesting to see the use of the footage review technology to award the penalty also.

As for Messi, I do wonder why he took the penalty. With his poor form on penalties, and a few other good penalty takers in the team, maybe he shouldn't be taking individual penalty kicks? He must be gutted, again...
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Well I thought Germany would be a safe bet. Now I'm not so sure.
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:06 pm

Mexico built a wall, and Germany paid for it.
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:46 pm

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Mexico built a wall, and Germany paid for it.


Well played, Sir! :rotfl:
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:01 pm

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Forget the rest and go with Germany. You'd be pretty much guaranteed of a team in the final.


Come again :-D
 
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:10 pm

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Mexico built a wall, and Germany paid for it.


Well played, Sir! :rotfl:


:checkmark: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:22 pm

Germany will fly home after 3 games, thoroughly deserved.
 
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:43 pm

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scbriml wrote:
Forget the rest and go with Germany. You'd be pretty much guaranteed of a team in the final.


Come again :-D


Well, yeah. I also said the UK would never vote to leave the EU and that Trump would never be elected President. None of which stops me from making predictions!

All that said, I still wouldn't bet against Germany, but they'll need to up their game somewhat. I was also not overly impressed by Brazil this evening.

So far, Spain best team (IMHO). That might change after we see England play tomorrow evening. :duck:
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:17 pm

Another busy day, we've had a fair few upsets this tournament so far. Mexico's win was brilliant, I was in a bar in Manchester for the buildup but had to leave early. Lots of Mexican fans there so I hope that bar was suitably bouncing! Iceland yesterday were excellent in frustrating Argentina, and although they had a touch of fortune it was great to see Switzerland holding Brazil, it doesn't matter who you are, if you're complacent you can draw or lose easily.

Tricky question though: Tunisia vs England is tomorrow, but what would be a bigger upset: Tunisia beating England or England actually not being utterly useless. I'm tempted to say the latter.
 
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:17 am

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Tricky question though: Tunisia vs England is tomorrow, but what would be a bigger upset: Tunisia beating England or England actually not being utterly useless. I'm tempted to say the latter.


Well as I have made clear in previous posts, it's England, I would be amazed if they win, I will be more amazed if they score 2 goals.

But then again, with the way the big boys have been playing so far, anything could happen.

Great game between Mexico and Germany, my work was rocking at 8am, the crowd showed up for the game and when Mexico scored the place went crazy, funny how the non football following (IE American's) had no clue that a couple of hundred people would show up at 8am on a Sunday morning to watch a game, then lose their minds when Mexico scored.
 
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:07 pm

Boring foul infested game but Sweden gets it done. Hope the next two games are better.
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:26 pm

Bricktop wrote:
Ronaldo's third was one of the best goals I have ever seen, WC or not.


You need to watch some more football
 
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:03 pm

Freakysh wrote:
Bricktop wrote:
Ronaldo's third was one of the best goals I have ever seen, WC or not.


You need to watch some more football

You'd be at odds with my wife. :lol:
 
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:07 pm

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Well as I have made clear in previous posts, it's England, I would be amazed if they win, I will be more amazed if they score 2 goals.


Amazed?
 
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:08 pm

Yeah Rode Duivels, go Belgium!
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:11 pm

Wow England escapes after that stupid foul in the box!
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:51 pm

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Wow England escapes after that stupid foul in the box!


Escapes?

It was a silly penalty to concede, but England should have had at least two themselves when Kane was wrestled to the ground by defenders. I thought they played pretty well for such a young and inexperienced team, created plenty of chances and should have had the game wrapped up in the first half.

They won their first game, which is all that mattered.
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:09 pm

LOL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

South Korea vs. Sweden...did anyone see this story?
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:18 am

I am still stunned about Mexico's 1-0 win over Germany Sunday, the was even a measured earth tremor in Mexico City 7 seconds after the goal.
At least today was 'normal' although England should have been better. Belgium was decent. Sweden may have taken it easy against South Korea.
 
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:51 am

The World Cup fixture, the avgeek way

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Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:03 am

My heart is with Germany. But, because I am me, I am also rooting for Croatia and Iceland. I don't get invested until the next round.

Why Croatia and Iceland you ask? Some countries I am drawn to for no reason at all. I like the idea of Sri Lanka or Estonia. No reason, really. Just because. Same with Croatia and Iceland. I think they are fascinating. No reason for it. I hope their football clubs do well in this World Cup. Not better than Germany, of course, but well enough.
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:03 am

I am at anyone but Germany stage. The arrogance of the team is disgusting and it is kind of fun to see the last champion go home after the group stage. I rather support Iceland (who does not), Spain, Belgium or the UK. The 3 Lions or the Red Devils as champions would be great.
 
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:40 am

Germany have a whole lot of work to do the remainder of this week and they need to be really careful to prevent the psychological situation among the team from completely escalating and ending like France in 2010. There is a lot of unrest at the moment, it seems.
I'm confident that if they do their homework properly they should be able to beat Sweden and South Korea but them failing to make it isn't impossible either.

Who would I be rooting for if that happens? Not really sure yet but Portugal, Mexico and maybe England are high on the list.
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:52 am

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jetwet1 wrote:
Well as I have made clear in previous posts, it's England, I would be amazed if they win, I will be more amazed if they score 2 goals.


Amazed?


Very, England should of had the game wrapped up in the first 30 minutes, but couldn't hit an open net, unless they can figure out how to get the ball to Kane more than twice a game Belgium will win for sure.
 
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:54 pm

Woke up this morning to see that minnows Japan scored a shock result over Colombia!

On a side note, FOX's coverage of the World Cup here in the US has been underwhelming. ESPN did it better.
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:31 pm

As I had feared, Poland turns in another drab performance on the big stage...but the two fluke goals sure didn't help!
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:08 pm

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Much appreciated, very nicely done!

That's the 1st round officially concluded, although not all the games have been exciting, I love that there have been a lot of upsets and surprises. Very happy with the start in Group H: Poland and Colombia were the 2 favourites but both have lost, that group was almost certainly the most open group before the tournament started, now it's really anyone's group to win or lose out from.

Russia vs Egypt (about to kick off as I type) looks like a quite even contest.
 
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:52 pm

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LOL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

South Korea vs. Sweden...did anyone see this story?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2018 ... sh-asians/

Hell yeah it was one hell of a match.
 
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:39 pm

It's been a good 10 years since I watched Russia play and not had to become furious and embarassed with the way they play.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt aren't strong teams, but Russia is finally playing like a national team, and not 11 guys that ran away from some hospice.

Side note, FIFA seems very pleased with the Organizing Comittee.
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:22 am

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Boring foul infested game but Sweden gets it done. Hope the next two games are better.


After all those "tactical" fouls, I have lost all respect for Sweden.
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:39 am

Columbia loses to Japan ? Another upset ? Poland loses too ? What is in the water in Russia that is ruining the allegedly 'good teams'. Some controversial calls today, including the first 'red card'.
 
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:23 am

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Some controversial calls today, including the first 'red card'.


Are you including the red card decision in the "controversial calls"? Deliberate hand-ball stopping a goal-bound shot is a guaranteed red card every time.
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:30 pm

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It's been a good 10 years since I watched Russia play and not had to become furious and embarassed with the way they play.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt aren't strong teams, but Russia is finally playing like a national team, and not 11 guys that ran away from some hospice.

Side note, FIFA seems very pleased with the Organizing Comittee.


They must have lined their pockets just like they wanted. Being cynical about FIFA probably hits the truth.

Just like Russia going to the next round. A pathetic pool which made sure the host country made it to the next round. Just like with South Korea for instance when they organized it.
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:56 am

Have noticed with pleasure the distinct lack of any reports detailing hooligan riots. Allegedly, Mr. Putin made the heads of various hooligan 'firms' in Russia know, they're to behave nicely for the duration of the Cup. And, sure as water is wet, they did. I suppose the alternative was an extended vacation in Siberia, doing geological work with a pick axe.

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It's been a good 10 years since I watched Russia play and not had to become furious and embarassed with the way they play.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt aren't strong teams, but Russia is finally playing like a national team, and not 11 guys that ran away from some hospice.

Side note, FIFA seems very pleased with the Organizing Comittee.


They must have lined their pockets just like they wanted. Being cynical about FIFA probably hits the truth.

Just like Russia going to the next round. A pathetic pool which made sure the host country made it to the next round. Just like with South Korea for instance when they organized it.


I don't see why you have to imagine corruption with anything to do with Russia.

Same as hosting the championship.

Look the truth in the eye.

Russia and the USSR gave a long history of doing a great job when it comes to hosting world level sporting events. If FIFA wants a good championship, Russia is a good bet to host it. Sure as hell better than any other European country could do.

Buddy works at Moskomsport in the commitee and FIFA as I said is very impressed with the organization and the attendance turnout.

Qatar on the other hand is a different matter. But who knows, they have no history with events like this, but may well do a good job.
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:48 pm

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I don't see why you have to imagine corruption with anything to do with Russia.


Same as hosting the championship.

Look the truth in the eye........

........Qatar on the other hand is a different matter. But who knows, they have no history with events like this, but may well do a good job.[/quote]

Oh, I was bashing the FIFA, not Russia. FIFA is even more corrupt than your Putin. You gave the perfect example: Qatar: a country whom doesn't do shit about football and where it is physically impossible to play. But come to think of it, if you concede that Qatar "won" the organization of the WC through corruption, then it stands to reason that Russia won it through corruption, same organization, same moment in time, so that is by far more likely that both won by corruption than one did and one didn't. Brilliant reasoning, thanks for that, tu204!

Russia and the USSR gave a long history of doing a great job when it comes to hosting world level sporting events. If FIFA wants a good championship, Russia is a good bet to host it. Sure as hell better than any other European country could do.


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Sure they can host it just fine, but better than any other country? Com'on really? Do you really believe that shit?
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:16 pm

Hvartska!! Modric, my little Real Madrid tiger sticking the dagger through Argentina's heart. Yikes, this is another team I'd hate to be matched up against. They were quite superb in this match, though hard to tell with Argentina putting in such a terrible display. No passion, terrible midfield play, Messi completely absent again when it matters most. In the inevitable Ronaldo-Messi contest you have to give the nod to Cristiano thus far. And if he takes the Golden Boot it's hard not to see him taking his 6th Player of the Year award. Anyway, tomorrow's match between Iceland and Nigeria suddenly has all kinds of meaning, Argentina could squeak through yet.
 
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:48 pm

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Someone remind me how much Messi is paid?


He's rightly paid a lot of money by his club. Even the best players in the World need some decent players around them to perform. When playing for Argentina, Messi doesn't. Argentina were poor and a bit nasty.
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Someone remind me how much Messi is paid?


He's rightly paid a lot of money by his club. Even the best players in the World need some decent players around them to perform. When playing for Argentina, Messi doesn't. Argentina were poor and a bit nasty.


His style of play works in Champions league but not in the world cup. Defenses are too good for that come at me approach. Need crosses and headers and such.
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:16 am

Very valid points about Messi and you have to attribute much of his success and greatness to what is arguably an 8-10 year stretch of the greatest midfield in history at Barcelona. Xavi and Iniesta controlling the midfield up and feeding Messi chance after chance (with defenders still needing to worry about the likes of Jaws, Neymar and Mbappe etc.) And genius talent like Busquets controlling the back end of midfield. Messi without any of that all of a sudden looks quite mediocre and unsure about his position or purpose.

I still think he's a candidate for GOAT up to this point in the game but events like these create justifiable doubt. Cristiano, much as I don't like his prima donna personality or habit of diving does have a vicious desire to win every single game and he wears it on his face for all 90 minutes. Messi so often just doesn't show up when you need him most. Today was another example.
 
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:11 am

Messi's legacy is done. I never recall any player of any position on any team at any time give such an obviously intentional outward expression of despondency and lack of will or fight BEFORE a match, let alone from a reference point of A squad. Those 3 seconds have destroyed for good his standing and he now many not rank in the top three in his own country. Cannot be best of all no matter what anyone outside of Argentina says.

More broadly these players were whiny, raising their arms at any infraction instead of playing on, chippy, and more damming to them utterrly weeak of mental fortitude. No other team gave up so visibly after an adversity like this bunch. Not the Saudis, not Morocco, not anyone . They are nothing more than outstanding club players but poor footballers.

The Barcelona midfield is overrated as a factor. Yes they were great players but they trained together for 10 months of the year every year. You can make animals of medium intellect into a circus given time. Argentina's national team and Brazil suffer from their players individual success and have no time to adequately train teamwork.
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:38 am

Reading Argentinian twitter fan accounts has been the best part of the WC so far.

Now we can only hope Brazil loses by a scrappy goal and we can consider it a success.
 
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:53 am

wingman wrote:
Very valid points about Messi and you have to attribute much of his success and greatness to what is arguably an 8-10 year stretch of the greatest midfield in history at Barcelona. Xavi and Iniesta controlling the midfield up and feeding Messi chance after chance (with defenders still needing to worry about the likes of Jaws, Neymar and Mbappe etc.) And genius talent like Busquets controlling the back end of midfield. Messi without any of that all of a sudden looks quite mediocre and unsure about his position or purpose.

I still think he's a candidate for GOAT up to this point in the game but events like these create justifiable doubt. Cristiano, much as I don't like his prima donna personality or habit of diving does have a vicious desire to win every single game and he wears it on his face for all 90 minutes. Messi so often just doesn't show up when you need him most. Today was another example.


I think you can already call Ronaldo the big winner of the World Cup. From all the big stars he shows the best performance and the most commitment. Imho he has cemented his position as the greatest of this generation now, way ahead of Messi or Neymar.
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