seahawk wrote:wingman wrote:Very valid points about Messi and you have to attribute much of his success and greatness to what is arguably an 8-10 year stretch of the greatest midfield in history at Barcelona. Xavi and Iniesta controlling the midfield up and feeding Messi chance after chance (with defenders still needing to worry about the likes of Jaws, Neymar and Mbappe etc.) And genius talent like Busquets controlling the back end of midfield. Messi without any of that all of a sudden looks quite mediocre and unsure about his position or purpose.
I still think he's a candidate for GOAT up to this point in the game but events like these create justifiable doubt. Cristiano, much as I don't like his prima donna personality or habit of diving does have a vicious desire to win every single game and he wears it on his face for all 90 minutes. Messi so often just doesn't show up when you need him most. Today was another example.
I think you can already call Ronaldo the big winner of the World Cup. From all the big stars he shows the best performance and the most commitment. Imho he has cemented his position as the greatest of this generation now, way ahead of Messi or Neymar.
He's scored a PK, a FK, a header totally clear of defenders and a GK fluke. Which is what a striker should do, but greatest of his generation?
Morocco played much better, but they just woudn't score.