NIKV69 wrote:

Much of the toxicity out there has been created by your side of the aisle. As far the rest. Well maybe you should read up on Sheldon Adelson. A boy born into a below average income family who didn't share your negative view on this country. I will leave you a quote.

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

Can't afford much secondary education, can't afford to get sick, can barely afford food and mortgage. Can't live openly for fear of being beaten or murdered. Have to be careful what stickers I put on my car for fear of vandalism and retaliation. What a glorious place to live!

There are other countries. But, that costs money to go there and apply for citizenship and, with the low wages we are paid in the United States and trying not to get sick, I can't really save up to immigrate.

Much of the toxicity out there has been created by your side of the aisle. As far the rest. Well maybe you should read up on Sheldon Adelson. A boy born into a below average income family who didn't share your negative view on this country. I will leave you a quote.

"An entrepreneur is born with the mentality to take risks, though there are several important characteristics: courage, faith in yourself, and above all, even when you fail, to learn from failure and get up and try again."
-Sheldon Adelson, 2013

zckls04 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

Much of the toxicity out there has been created by your side of the aisle. As far the rest. Well maybe you should read up on Sheldon Adelson. A boy born into a below average income family who didn't share your negative view on this country. I will leave you a quote.

Ah yes, the poor downtrodden boy who borrowed $100,000 from his uncle to start a business at the age of 16. What hardship!

zkojq wrote:

zckls04 wrote:

Ah yes, the poor downtrodden boy who borrowed $100,000 from his uncle to start a business at the age of 16. What hardship!

People on foodstamps should learn from that guy. If they would only stop sitting around being lazy and take out a 100k loan from the extended family and make something of themselves. Poverty is a choice!

seb146 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

I keep challenging you righties to go into any welfare office and simply say "give me welfare, please" and see what happens. You righties seem to think that "our side of the aisle" just hands stuff out with zero oversight or expectation of anything.

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

Can't afford much secondary education, can't afford to get sick, can barely afford food and mortgage. Can't live openly for fear of being beaten or murdered. Have to be careful what stickers I put on my car for fear of vandalism and retaliation. What a glorious place to live!

There are other countries. But, that costs money to go there and apply for citizenship and, with the low wages we are paid in the United States and trying not to get sick, I can't really save up to immigrate.

Much of the toxicity out there has been created by your side of the aisle. As far the rest. Well maybe you should read up on Sheldon Adelson. A boy born into a below average income family who didn't share your negative view on this country. I will leave you a quote.

"An entrepreneur is born with the mentality to take risks, though there are several important characteristics: courage, faith in yourself, and above all, even when you fail, to learn from failure and get up and try again."
-Sheldon Adelson, 2013

Having 40 billion dollars. Not bad for a college drop out huh?

One can continue to blame people that don't agree with you or can go out there and get it. I suggest you stop the propaganda and hate mongering and start working your butt off. You may find it works wonders.

VTKillarney wrote:

2122M wrote:

Its not a data point and its not 100% anecdotal. Would someone in Canada ever think for a moment about ambulance ride costs when there are standing there looking at the bone through their own leg while they risk bleeding out?

First, there is non evidence that she was at risk of bleeding out. That said, of course someone in Canada would think about ambulance ride costs. First, there is a co-pay. Second, if the ride is determined to be medically unnecessary, they have to pay for the ride. In a system with a very taxed budget, bureaucrats are happy to determine that a ride was not necessary. For a cut to the leg, this would have to be a genuine concern.

2122M wrote:

You can dismiss all the scientific evidence you want regarding medical outcomes, but I'm going to assume that the medical journals and the authors that write them know a thing or two more about this issue than you do.

Fantastic! I didn't realize that you could provide some journal citations for me since I was unaware that you had reviewed the medical literture. Please let me know what you have reviewed and I will pull it up on PubMed. I eagerly await your citations.

einsteinboricua wrote:

LockheedBBD wrote:

on average a software engineer in Canada would get paid around $56k USD /year, whereas it is $99k USD /year in the US.

But how's the cost of living? Taxation? ROI from those taxes? I'd gladly give up about $15k from my yearly salary if it meant I could have affordable healthcare, affordable college, and a progressive government willing to evolve with the times.

yvr2018 wrote:

I also pay less in taxes overall vs living in the US
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zckls04 wrote:

Unintuitive hater? What a snowflake.

Anyway, here's an example study:

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/bri ... as-health/

"Finally, the study found that the mortality gap between the U.S. and both Finland and Austria is the widest after the first month of life (in the postneonatal period). In fact, the authors suggest that, in terms of understanding the U.S. disadvantage in infant mortality, the postneonatal period is at least equal in importance to health at the time of birth. They conclude that almost all of the U.S.’s underperformance in postneonatal mortality – infant deaths after the first month of life – may be explained by socioeconomic inequality."

mham001 wrote:

And so? There is nothing new there except the admission that the OECD study is FLAWED and the US is unlikely to be last in the developed world.

thanks for the lame try.

seb146 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

Can't afford much secondary education, can't afford to get sick, can barely afford food and mortgage. Can't live openly for fear of being beaten or murdered. Have to be careful what stickers I put on my car for fear of vandalism and retaliation. What a glorious place to live!

There are other countries. But, that costs money to go there and apply for citizenship and, with the low wages we are paid in the United States and trying not to get sick, I can't really save up to immigrate.

Much of the toxicity out there has been created by your side of the aisle. As far the rest. Well maybe you should read up on Sheldon Adelson. A boy born into a below average income family who didn't share your negative view on this country. I will leave you a quote.

"An entrepreneur is born with the mentality to take risks, though there are several important characteristics: courage, faith in yourself, and above all, even when you fail, to learn from failure and get up and try again."
-Sheldon Adelson, 2013

Having 40 billion dollars. Not bad for a college drop out huh?

One can continue to blame people that don't agree with you or can go out there and get it. I suggest you stop the propaganda and hate mongering and start working your butt off. You may find it works wonders.

I keep challenging you righties to go into any welfare office and simply say "give me welfare, please" and see what happens. You righties seem to think that "our side of the aisle" just hands stuff out with zero oversight or expectation of anything.

As far as the toxicity created by "our" side of the aisle, go read up on the media consolidation and take overs. Which side, "yours" or "ours" kept pushing political talk under the guise of "news" from the mid to late 1980s onward?

mham001 wrote:

zckls04 wrote:

Unintuitive hater? What a snowflake.

Anyway, here's an example study:

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/bri ... as-health/

"Finally, the study found that the mortality gap between the U.S. and both Finland and Austria is the widest after the first month of life (in the postneonatal period). In fact, the authors suggest that, in terms of understanding the U.S. disadvantage in infant mortality, the postneonatal period is at least equal in importance to health at the time of birth. They conclude that almost all of the U.S.’s underperformance in postneonatal mortality – infant deaths after the first month of life – may be explained by socioeconomic inequality."

And so? There is nothing new there except the admission that the OECD study is FLAWED and the US is unlikely to be last in the developed world. Where it sits, nobody actually seems to know or want to say but thanks for the lame try.

mham001 wrote:

A lot of those jobs are going to include health care benefits and 401k opportunities as well.

zckls04 wrote:

VTKillarney wrote:

2122M wrote:

Yes, I'm sure that's why infant mortality is the worst in the Western world as well. All those obese, lazy six-month-old babies.

There is another more radical possibility- for-profit healthcare is completely shit.

luckyone wrote:

zckls04 wrote:

VTKillarney wrote:

Yes, I'm sure that's why infant mortality is the worst in the Western world as well. All those obese, lazy six-month-old babies.

There is another more radical possibility- for-profit healthcare is completely shit.

He’s not incorrect. Many people in this country don’t do themselves many favors by eating large quantities of the worst quality food—some of it is one quick chemical reaction from being plastic, look up “partially hydrogenated soybean oil,” which is in an alarming amount of processed food. One does not find that in large parts of the rest of the world.

luckyone wrote:

We can argue all day about the merits of one health care system versus the other, and many on both sides of the argument will have valid points. But as a physician, the unhealthy, particularly the sedentary American, play a large role in their own health.

zkojq wrote:

zckls04 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

Much of the toxicity out there has been created by your side of the aisle. As far the rest. Well maybe you should read up on Sheldon Adelson. A boy born into a below average income family who didn't share your negative view on this country. I will leave you a quote.

Ah yes, the poor downtrodden boy who borrowed $100,000 from his uncle to start a business at the age of 16. What hardship!

People on foodstamps should learn from that guy. If they would only stop sitting around being lazy and take out a 100k loan from the extended family and make something of themselves. Poverty is a choice!

VTKillarney wrote:

The Prime Minister is a sexual abuser. So no matter what your thoughts are about Trump you aren't coming out better in that department.

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Bourne said, "I would not classify it or qualify it as sexual assault." But she said that Trudeau's alleged actions were "definitely not welcome and definitely inappropriate."