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RetroRoo
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Australian Government in Meltdown

Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:16 am

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Australia looks like it will get its 8th Prime Minister in 11 years tomorrow. A leader hasn't completed a term in office without being rolled since the election of Prime Minister John Howard in 2004.

For those playing along outside Australia, our leaders are consistently replaced by their own political parties when the going gets tough. It's hard to imagine a tougher time.

The house of representatives has been suspended, there have been mass resignations from cabinet, and now there are three candidates for Prime Minister (one of whom might be ineligible under the constitution).

What an absolute mess.

Any thoughts on who will or who should lead the country tomorrow? Peter Dutton? Julie Bishop? Scott Morrison? Maybe Tony Abbott?? This is assuming we even get a new Prime Minister tomorrow.

Ugh.

Links:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/aug/23/turnbull-dutton-liberal-canberra-chaos-spill

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/malcolm-turnbull-promises-a-scorched-earth-for-his-liberal-enemies-20180823-p4zzdz.html
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:49 am

It's embarrassing enough living here, do you HAVE to tell the rest of the world !
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:18 am

RetroRoo wrote:
What an absolute mess.

Any thoughts on who will or who should lead the country tomorrow? Peter Dutton? Julie Bishop? Scott Morrison? Maybe Tony Abbott?? This is assuming we even get a new Prime Minister tomorrow.

Ugh.


Sadly Malcolm’s demise was to be expected. This is based on his views on climate policy, which is completely against the ever growing right wing faction of the federal liberal party and the poor showing in the last general election. It should also be noted the involvement of the News Corporation media outlets plus radio personalities and their constant bashing of Malcolm and the direction of his policies

Despite the infighting Malcolm has played has played his trump card well in demanding to see the petition with 43 signatures – representing a majority in the Liberal party room. I surely hope Dutton is not eligible to stand as leader tomorrow thus bringing his role as a MP under scrutiny. If he does run, I personally believe he doesn’t stand a chance against Bishop or ScoMo and either one of them winning the next election.
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:40 am

It's the PM versus Dutton and Ray Hadley, who is a completely unelected and unaccountable radio shock jock.

Woe befall anyone who is late for a radio interview with Hadley. His feelings are hurt, so he takes revenge.

The LNP is in tatters- the damage is irreversible. They don't care about the people of Australia, just furthering old vendettas.

It was never acceptable for Labor to roll its own leaders, but somehow it is okay for the faceless men of the Liberal party to do so? Hmm.

Tony Abbott should get out of politics completely. So should the other old hangers on who are just there leaching off the public purse without delivering value.

I have KPIs and performance targets I have to meet, they should face the same.
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:21 pm

jupiter2 wrote:
It's embarrassing enough living here, do you HAVE to tell the rest of the world !


Don't worry, we already knew. We have news here too, you know.
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:15 pm

One of the pitfalls of a parliamentary system. Don't like the guy in charge? Just keep replacing them until they sing and dance to your tune.
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:08 am

The party room meeting is happening at 12:20pm. The new PM should be known very soon. Very appropriate that Karma caught up with Malcolm in the middle.
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:49 am

Honestly, our system is fundamentally broken. The new Prime Minister Scott Morrison will no doubt be a formidable opponent to the Labor opposition, but what an uninspiring rabble. We deserve better, frankly.
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:32 am

We could post over our lame duck PM, Taxinda Arden would be great for Australia! Or anywhere else that's not close to NZ!!
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:09 am

Australia is the new Italy.
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:47 am

What is tough exactly at the moment in Australia ?

I've read about the new PM in the guardian, a liberal being against gays marrying, how strange.

From the article :
His mantra of “jobs and growth” has been backed up by the statistics: GDP growth has been running above forecasts at 3.1% and unemployment edged lower to 5.4% in July.

That left Morrison space to return to his favourite role: chief prosecutor of the “Kill Bill” strategy, which involves blaming Labor opposition leader Bill Shorten for everything.


So clearly nothing tough was going on...
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:45 am

Aesma wrote:
What is tough exactly at the moment in Australia ?

I've read about the new PM in the guardian, a liberal being against gays marrying, how strange.


Make that a capital "L", Liberal is the name of the political party, it differs from the casual American political definition.

Aesma wrote:
So clearly nothing tough was going on...


Economically foreign debt has doubled, but that's not quite my point. No Australian Prime Minister has completed a full term in office since 2007. There's something wrong here...
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:05 am

I know the difference, but there is no way I can call that man liberal. Economic policies are just that, policies, that can come and go and adapt to the situation. Wanting to restrict what people can do in their private lives, basically, that's illiberal.
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:18 am

7 Prime Ministers in 10 years, no wonder the rest of the world thinks we are a banana republic (and treats us accordingly) ! I say that as a proud Australian
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:31 pm

cougar15 wrote:
7 Prime Ministers in 10 years, no wonder the rest of the world thinks we are a banana republic (and treats us accordingly) ! I say that as a proud Australian


Meanwhile here in the UK, 7 PM's takes us back to the election of Margaret Thatcher in 1979
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:51 pm

In France it takes us back to 2002 for PMs. But of course PMs can be ousted by the president whenever he wants, unless his party is in the minority.

For presidents, it takes us back to 1969 when CDG resigned...
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:17 pm

Arion640 wrote:
Australia is the new Italy.

A country with beautiful women with beautiful accents, but with a stable airline!
When wasn't America great?


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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:31 pm

Bongodog1964 wrote:
cougar15 wrote:
7 Prime Ministers in 10 years, no wonder the rest of the world thinks we are a banana republic (and treats us accordingly) ! I say that as a proud Australian


Meanwhile here in the UK, 7 PM's takes us back to the election of Margaret Thatcher in 1979


Jim Callaghan that would be wouldn’t it?
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:18 pm

Hey guys,
I feel quite strongly about Labor and Liberal rolling sitting PMs.
Unless there is a moral issue (eg BJ and his love child), health issue or crime, I don't believe that a ruling political party should replace a sitting PM who has won a federal election.
I am truly sick of this happening.
I rang my local fed MP's office late yesterday to protest about it and will follow up with emails today to the PM's office and Lib HQ.
Cheers
(Stepping down off the soapbox)
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:37 am

RetroRoo wrote:
Honestly, our system is fundamentally broken. The new Prime Minister Scott Morrison will no doubt be a formidable opponent to the Labor opposition, but what an uninspiring rabble. We deserve better, frankly.


“Deserving got nothing to do with it”.

Clint Eastwood.

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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:00 am

TWA772LR wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Australia is the new Italy.

A country with beautiful women with beautiful accents, but with a stable airline!


Australia and beautiful accents what have you been smoking?
 
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Re: Australian Government in Meltdown

Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:22 pm

cougar15 wrote:
7 Prime Ministers in 10 years, no wonder the rest of the world thinks we are a banana republic (and treats us accordingly) ! I say that as a proud Australian


And despite that, Australia has gone over 26 years without a recession - the current record holder!

And, Australia is the best country in the world...

So, who cares what the rest of the world thinks :)
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