9/11 ... Never Forget

TWA1985 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:26 pm

Today marks the 17th anniversary of one of the darkest days in American History, September 11, 2001.

This is for the flight attendant who bravely tended to her passengers before their hijacked aircraft slammed into the World Trade Center ~ For the wife who stopped on the stairs and called her husband to say, "I will love you forever," before the building collapsed around her. ~ For the mothers and fathers who kissed their children goodbye, not knowing those tender kisses would be their last ~ For the husband who told his pregnant wife, "please raise our son so he never forgets his daddy," before his plane crashed into a field in Pennsylvania ~ For the policemen and firemen who rushed to save the lives of strangers, only to perish themselves ~ And for the soldiers who fought back for our country and lost their lives.

Today, tomorrow and forever ... WE WILL REMEMBER!

texas145 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:32 pm

deltadart106 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:09 pm

Let's take a moment today, forget all of the political BS going on in the world, and remember the brave first responders and anyone else who risked it all to help others in need, the innocent bystanders who had their lives taken away, the brave pilots and flight crew who did their best to fight back, and the heroic passengers of Flight 93 who prevented an even worse tragedy. May they all rest in peace.

Also, if you haven't, check out the A.net threads from that day. Fascinating to see how it all played out in realtime, especially from an aviation enthusiast's perspective.

FlyingColours · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Amen brother.

M564038 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:13 pm

Could anyone link to the thread to that day?

Morvious · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:15 pm

It was a dark day for the whole world!

Can’t believe it has been 17 years.

SDFguy · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:19 pm

deltadart106 wrote:
Also, if you haven't, check out the A.net threads from that day. Fascinating to see how it all played out in realtime, especially from an aviation enthusiast's perspective.

Does anyone have any links?

FCAFLYBOY · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Amen to all the victims and those who have suffered as a direct or indirect result of this terrible tragedy.

Yes I’d also like to see links from the day. Macabre but essential reading no doubt.

TWA1985 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:24 pm

Thanks, guys. I wrote this for a school project a few years ago and I like to share it on the anniversary.

northstardc4m · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:25 pm

SDFguy wrote:
deltadart106 wrote:
Also, if you haven't, check out the A.net threads from that day. Fascinating to see how it all played out in realtime, especially from an aviation enthusiast's perspective.

Does anyone have any links?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=105795

nikeherc · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:35 pm

I will never forget that day. I have seen the video so often that I now try to avoid it, but I will NEVER forget. It takes gutless cowards to incite others to commit such vile acts. Civil aviation and maritime commerce have been the two areas where antagonistic societies of this world have promulgated rules that keep conflict at bay. Until Lockerbie, violence directed at civil aviation had been the product of greed or malice by an individual. The September 11, 2001 attacks were a complete and utter violation of the standards of civilized behavior on a scale that defies comprehension. All civilized societies were victims of these unspeakable acts. NEVER AGAIN!

FL420 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:40 pm

I'll never forget sitting in the sixth grade in elementary school in Kansas City watching the horror unfold on TV the entire day. Now, 17 years later, as I am rounding out my academic career, I still remember those images. In fact, I just submitted my ESTA yesterday to visit home, and the unbelievable amount of invasive questions I was forced to answer forced me to think on just how much that day changed our lives forever, and what the world might be like today otherwise. That ESTA, in fact, is for my trip next week that begins in New York City. One of our first stops will be One World Trade Center. Tears will be flowing. Never forget. God bless.

MDGLongBeach · Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:05 pm

viewforum.php?f=3&start=249200

9-11-2001 from these forums.

Tugger · Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:09 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
SDFguy wrote:
deltadart106 wrote:
Also, if you haven't, check out the A.net threads from that day. Fascinating to see how it all played out in realtime, especially from an aviation enthusiast's perspective.

Does anyone have any links?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=105795

Wild and very sad to read through that thread. So much confusion, so much anger and sadness and loss.

Yes I will always remember that day as well.

And I would hope those trying to "compare tragedies" will come to understand that is is not possible to truly do so.

Tugg

strfyr51 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:12 pm

I had Friends who Died on 9/11 CeCe and Wanda, May their Souls rest in GOD's Arms and Bask in his Warmth. And Might those who Perpetrated that?
Burn In Hell!!

747superliner · Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:16 pm

Indeed a dark day, for the U.S and humanity in general. One of those days we will never forget.

VS4ever · Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:22 pm

Reading that thread is so eerie and back then information was so much harder to come by than now. I was in England at the time and a friend called me to tell me about it. I didn’t believe him. Tried to get on websites but everything was crashing, it was only when I got home the full horror hit me.
RIP to all who died that day, the first responders who ran to the tragedy that was unfolding, rather than away and to all who were directly and indirectly affected by it. May there NEVER be a repeat EVER...

SIA77W · Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:36 pm

RIP to all who perished that day, I still remember being woken up in the middle of the night to watch this unfold in absolute disbelief (Living in Singapore at the time).

Here is a FT recount of someone who was flying that day and was tuned in to Channel 9 (United used to have a channel allowing you to listen in on ATC) when the ground stop went into effect. A very chilling account indeed...

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united- ... 001-a.html

727LOVER · Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:47 pm

Here is the official thread

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=105795&p=883693&hilit=world+trade+center#p883693

...and about 11 months earlier...... :boggled:

viewtopic.php?t=60625

FBI interviewed this a.netter AFAIK

kraz911 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:39 pm

No, we will never 9/11. Many things don’t add up regarding how these aircraft were flown at speeds that were impossible. But the one thing I marvel at was the grounding all those aircraft over America in such a short time, with some scares but in general with no incidents. Everyone working together to land at airports some that didn’t accommodate certain types, without a plan just winging it. The pictures of so much metal so close together at airports I remember clearly. The first time in history the mass grounding occurred. The eerie feeling I got that day living eight miles due west of ORD was that it was quiet. The only time that ever happened again was the intentional meltdown at the FAA facility in Aurora. When Regan fired the controllers many moons back, ITV wasn’t completely quiet, there were aircraft flying but clearly not so many...

DIRECTFLT · Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:36 pm

A haunting performance of Adagio For Strings conducted by Leonard Bernstein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVNhFMZP4NM

SmithAir747 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:59 pm

Where was I on Tuesday, 11 September 2001?

I was still living at home in the Fort Wayne, IN, area. I was working at the university library at the Fort Wayne campus of both Indiana University and Purdue University (IPFW), where I had recently studied for my bachelor's and master's degrees in biology. That morning, I was driving down from my home in a small rural town into the big city of Fort Wayne itself to start another day of work at the university library. My car radio began airing spotty reports of a "small" plane hitting one tower of the World Trade Center. That piqued my interest and shocked me--because I had just visited the WTC 4 years earlier on my first trip to NYC (I still have the bronze souvenir model of the WTC and the ticket I used to get to the top floor observatory in one tower). Then the second tower was hit, by what was confirmed to be an airliner (a Boeing 767 in fact). Between those two hits, newscasters on the Fort Wayne affiliate of National Public Radio (NPR) speculated on the size and type of plane that hit the first tower (anything from a small plane to an Airbus or a Boeing jetliner). As I proceeded on down to Fort Wayne in shock, more reports came over the radio of two more crashes, one into the Pentagon and another in rural Pennsylvania (that one was supposedly a 747 at first). When I got to the campus library that morning, both towers had collapsed. Looking into the absolutely clear blue Fort Wayne sky, I saw no aircraft at all, and not one bird was heard to sing. Deathly silence. As I was in the interlibrary loan services office at the campus library, there was a radio on all day with nonstop coverage. I heard once that petrol prices had shot up to $5/gallon and drivers were rushing petrol stations to fill up, just like the 1970s gas lines. I also heard that tall buildings across the nation were evacuated--including right there in downtown Fort Wayne (there are a number of tall office blocks downtown). I went home that evening to a shocked mother (who was relieved to see me come back home). She had me fill up her VW at the local petrol station. That evening we stayed by the TV, where I finally got to see the full extent of death and destruction, worst of all the full collapse of the WTC twin towers I had visited only 4 short years before. Last summer, I finally got to see the new 1776-foot-tall WTC1 Freedom Tower in NYC.

NIKV69 · Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:26 pm

I was at work at a golf club in NY where a few of our members were there and were able to get out of the city. It was harrowing to hear their accounts. We lost two members. Went to both funerals. Then had to escort the widow of one into the locker room to get her husbands belongings. It was a bad time. Never forget.

N626AA · Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:07 am

Remember that day like it was yesterday. I turned 13 in Feb 2001 and was just getting into the aviation hobby, reading and obtaining 99% of my knowledge at the time from Airways magazines or the "our fleet" link that many airlines had on their websites.

My father was an AA ramper here in AUS (now retired) and I remember the chaos he spoke of going on at AA during the following months. He thankfully got to keep his job but spoke of meeting some of crew members of those tragic AA flights multiple times, and losing many good coworkers during the labor cuts and downsizing.

While a tragic year for the country, it was the year I developed my interest and passion for all things aviation. Quite an unfortunate coincidence.

RIP to all of those who died that day and prayers to the family and friends who revisit this awful day every year.

einsteinboricua · Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:09 am

I have my opinion about 9/11 commemoration which I'll keep out of THIS thread out of respect.

I still remember being in 7th grade Spanish when our homeroom teacher walked in to tell our Spanish teacher what had happened (this was past 10:28 when the North Tower finally succumbed). This was 2001: classrooms in our school weren't equipped with TVs, radios, or computers to learn about what was happening. Teachers kept quiet. Rumors and speculation spread like wildfire: "a plane had crashed into the White House and another into the Capitol". "There was a biological attack.". I remember getting on the bus to my grandparents and the driver was tuned to AM radio. I got to my grandparents' place and they were tuned into CNN En Español. The images replayed over and over again. News outlets were so focused on the big events that it wasn't until a few days later that we were told about WTC 7 falling that day as well. It was a very somber week while the reality set in. I didn't lose anyone in the attacks, but it's very troubling to think how many people did.

Narfish641 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:14 am

I was only about 3 when this event happened, so of course I do not remember much about it. But now that the years gone by growing up I realized just how chaotic and terrifying that day was, with 4 different planes crashing in different places (2 being the World Trade Center). 17 years.... May everyone that was involved RIP and to all the service members that fought back and died for our country, thank you. We will never forget 9/11! It's also strange that both planes that crashed were 2 757-200s and 2 767-200s from both United and American, how crazy is that!

910A · Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:16 am

deltadart106 wrote:
remember the brave first responders and anyone else who risked it all to help others in need, the innocent bystanders who had their lives taken away, the brave pilots and flight crew who did their best to fight back, and the heroic passengers of Flight 93 who prevented an even worse tragedy. May they all rest in peace.
.

In another year or so, there will be more deaths of first responders from disease than the total that died in the Towers or the planes.

Never forget..afraid it will fade from the memory of Americans as we die off much like Pearl Harbor Day. Remember the children graduating from high school today, weren't alive in 2001.

910A · Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:19 am

Narfish641 wrote:
It's also strange that both planes that crashed were 2 757-200s and 2 767-200s from both United and American, how crazy is that!

Not strange at all considering the controls are the same in both aircraft.

fr8mech · Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:35 am

Let's see, that morning I got home from work and went down for some sleep at 0730'ish. I woke up about 1330.

Grabbed a cup of coffee and walked into my office. The first thing I noticed was 6 messages on my machine.

1: My mom (living in Greece) asking if I'd heard from my brother and sister (both live in NY)...there was a touch of panic in her voice.
2: Mom again, asking in a near panic whether or not I'd heard from my siblings.
3: My mother-in-law asking if I needed anything.
4: My brother saying they were alright.
5: My sister saying they were ok.
6: My mom asking me to call as soon as I can.

I was still trying to make sense of what was happening, since no one actually said anything.

Only then did I turn on the TV, and the first image I saw was film of the North Tower collapsing, and my very first thought was "where's the other one".

Sat and watched coverage for about an hour (after calling mom), then got cleaned up, went to the firehouse and volunteered to head to NY if we were mounting up a volunteer mission (we didn't).

I remember that day as though it was yesterday.

Cadet985 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:22 am

What sticks out most about 9/11 is that it was a beautiful day weather wise. You couldn’t ask for a better early September day in Philadelphia. I had worked the air show at Willow Grove that weekend, and was wearing a t-shirt I purchased at that show.

On 9/11, I was a fifteen year old high school junior — my sixteenth birthday was two weeks later. Due to a medical issue, I had a pass to use the elevator in school, so I’d leave each class a couple minutes early to make my next class. My next class was American Government. The teacher always finished his lessons a couple minutes early and would put on the news. He poked his head out and said I better come in, that something was going on. At almost that minute, the principal came on the loudspeaker and told classes not to cycle as scheduled. I didn’t know what to think.

After classes cycled, we kept watching the news. We saw the second plane hit live. I looked at the kid behind me and said, “I think World War III just began.” My next class was lunch. Instead of eating with my friends in the cafeteria, I took my lunch to the room where the mentally gifted program was based. I knew they’d have a TV on. In there, I found out that schools were dismissing at noon.

When I got home, I hugged my mother, asked if she’d heard from my dad (he had been a teacher and was staying at his school to make sure students got picked up). I then called my cadet commander in Civil Air Patrol. “Jody, what are our orders?” She responded, “We don’t know anything. Have your gear ready, and standby for instructions.” All of Northeast Region of CAP would remain on standby for several weeks. The following year, we were all given a citation for our work in the aftermath of 9/11, even though the overwhelming majority of us had done nothing.

We had the next two days off. When we went back, I explained to my principal what being in CAP meant. It meant that I had to have a cell phone on me, and that if a call came, I’d be walking out of school. I also convinced him to change the school’s newly imposed dress code of “solid colors only” to allow anything patriotic or military related.

That day, for our generation was when childhood ended. We lost our innocence. I think to some degree, anyone who is old enough to remember that day has some form of PTSD.

In Judaism, it is practice on the anniversary of the death of a loved one to light a candle or electric light in their memory. On the night of 9/11, my parents and I plugged in such a light. Except for power failures and the bulb needing changing, it’s been lit continuously since 9/11 in honor of those who may not have family to remember them.

Sorry for rambling.

Marc

PC12Fan · Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:26 am

I was with STL operations on that day. Had called in from home to see how hectic it was. As I was talking to my co-worker and still friend (and still co-worker in a new job) I heard chatter in the back ground. He told me that US airspace had just been shut down. I didn't even ask, I told him I was on the way. It was hectic for a while parking all the birds where we could. One odd ball was a Delta Mad Dog-11 which had hot brake warnings after landing. After all aircraft had landed and were deplaned, that's when the "shutdown procedures" of STL started. Our group in Ops were practically the only personnel besides security that had direct access to the field. And it was quiet - so eerily quiet. For those that know the area, I sat on the middle of 12R/30L the next day and could hear the traffic from I-170 AND 270. Not a sound from the field itself.

We processed everything that was needed and then for a while, it actually got boring. Then for me, the events really started soaking in. When I finally got home, my wife was asleep, but heard me come in. I crawled in, we briefly talked about the day and I just remember saying to her before finally falling asleep, "the world changed today".

Never, ever forget -

I know I never will.

Ken777 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:28 am

I can remember that day and the difficulty I had trying to grasp all that had happened. I was working at a small company and everyone was watching the loner TV, which was in a company lounge. That room was our window to several historic days. The next biggest was the Oklahoma City bombing and then there was the OJ Trial. I am appreciative of the funds that were paid to families who lost close ones and wish the OKC families would have received something close to the same. (They got nothing.)

Events like 9/11 and OKC showed something that we tend to forget in our daily lives - and that is how Americans come together when our Americans are hit with these types of disasters. The OKC reaction was typical: Sonic Drive Ins closed all restaurants to provide food to the rescuers, every patient making it to the hospital had their own nurse and their own Doctor (professionals who left their office/clinic to help, a large crane driver going to a work site who turned around when he heard the news on his truck radio and headed directly to the building. We see the same responses after 9/11, major hurricanes and other crises.

Deep in our thoughts of sadness and sympathy for the victims is also our pride and reassurances of those who respond at all sorts of levels.

casinterest · Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:07 am

It was a nice day. I had gotten to work so early. I remember briefly looking at CNN.com and seeing a headline about the WTC being hit, and I thought in the back of my mind if it was a cloudy day up there and maybe a small plane had messed up. I went back to work, and then tried to go back to cnn, and found it wierd that I couldn't get there. About 10 minutes later my roommate called me up and asked if I had seen the news. I told him what I saw, and then he told me what was going on. I went to the BBC site, and at that point work for the day ceased as everyone started to talk about what happened. We set up TV's in the auditorium, and I was down there to see the 2nd tower fall. I just remember the utter shock and silence. Then people began to cry. The next few days brought anger out, but everyone was attempting to help others. The one anonymous detail I will always remember is that someone in our apartment complex was very close to one of the UA pilots on UA93. They posted a poster of them and their tribute to their memory on all the mailbox and message boards.

I would later meet some people that were in the south tower when it happened, and i met others that went to the cleanup and rescue efforts afterwards. Their stories are humbling and amazing, even if they feel that they didn't do enough.

No one should ever forget that day.

WarRI1 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:17 am

My Nephew was visiting, my daughter called, said the WTC was on fire. We turned on the TV to watch. A terrible day. My Nephew worked for United at the time, now retired. It turned out that some of the Stewards on the United flights worked or had worked for him.

wiggy · Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:04 am

so sad those planes were such wonderful birds its a shame that they crashed

wiggy · Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:04 am

how did problem start anyway

wiggy · Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:07 am

rest in peace todd beamer and the others so sad

VapourTrails · Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:30 am

Yes, never forget. I have come here to A.net most if not all anniversaries on September 11 and for the timezone, September 12 also for Australians, to be with my A.net friends here and to remember the horrific events of that day, and the days following, and shared comments and thoughts.

Cadet985 wrote:
That day, for our generation was when childhood ended. We lost our innocence. I think to some degree, anyone who is old enough to remember that day has some form of PTSD. In Judaism, it is practice on the anniversary of the death of a loved one to light a candle or electric light in their memory. On the night of 9/11, my parents and I plugged in such a light. Except for power failures and the bulb needing changing, it’s been lit continuously since 9/11 in honor of those who may not have family to remember them.

Yeah.. the PTSD, I would say that probably applies to me in some form or another, although I was already an adult in 2001. Over the last 17 years, I've seen most of the 9/11 movies and documentaries and read quite a few books. I've read, watched and listened about 9/11 from the many different and varied viewpoints. I also see this as a way of remembrance, and also an ongoing learning of history and events of our time and how it has shaped today. It changed the world we lived in as we knew it then. That was very apparent from day one.

This year I chose a book to read called From Landfill to Hallowed Ground: The Largest Crime Scene in America by Frank Marra, Maria Bellia Abbate. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/251 ... wed-ground about the Staten Island Landfill site.

Ken777 wrote:
Deep in our thoughts of sadness and sympathy for the victims is also our pride and reassurances of those who respond at all sorts of levels.

Yes, this.

notaxonrotax · Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:45 am

What I notice internationally, is that remembrance is getting less by the year.
Perhaps "fading" is not quite the correct term, but on the international TV stations I watch and in the papers I read.....it didn't seem like a topic at all yesterday.
To my knowledge it wasn't on CNN international either.
Serena's fake outcries and the approaching hurricane is all that I could see, to be honest.

No Tax On Rotax

TheFlyingDisk · Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:25 am

notaxonrotax wrote:
What I notice internationally, is that remembrance is getting less by the year.
Perhaps "fading" is not quite the correct term, but on the international TV stations I watch and in the papers I read.....it didn't seem like a topic at all yesterday.
To my knowledge it wasn't on CNN international either.
Serena's fake outcries and the approaching hurricane is all that I could see, to be honest.

No Tax On Rotax

September 11, while being a historical event, is not really significant to a large portion of the population who has no ties with the US whatsoever and who face no consequence as a result of the tragedy. It's somewhat natural that 17 years on, people moved on.

Personally, I visited the Pentagon Memorial a few years back. I can never forget seeing among the monuments one bearing the name of a child, never to grow into adulthood and out of innocence. That really floored me.

May their souls rest in peace.

DIRECTFLT · Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:32 am

kraz911 wrote:
But the one thing I marvel at was the grounding all those aircraft over America in such a short time, with some scares but in general with no incidents. Everyone working together to land at airports some that didn’t accommodate certain types, without a plan just winging it. The pictures of so much metal so close together at airports I remember clearly. The first time in history the mass grounding occurred. The eerie feeling I got that day living eight miles due west of ORD was that it was quiet. The only time that ever happened again was the intentional meltdown at the FAA facility in Aurora. When Regan fired the controllers many moons back, ITV wasn’t completely quiet, there were aircraft flying but clearly not so many...

Of course, the only non-military planes *not* grounded were any and all Saudi Arabia planes at any of their "private" airports in the US.......

When I got to work that morning, a young female co-worker said that "a plane had crashed into one of the WTC towers."

I didn't think much of it... After all, she did *not* say "a commercial jumbo jet crashed into the WTC tower."

I figured it was a small private aircraft.

But, as soon as I heard the report that a 2nd plane has crashed into the WTC tower, I immediately knew that it was intentional. My prayers of protection went out for The Capital and the White House when they said there was still a plane in the air headed for DC.

We had internet access, and it took about 30 minutes for me to get through to the ABC NY website. I felt a little nervous about staying at work, not knowing how widespread the attacks were going to be. I worked at the call center for the local power company.

As it was, I had Tuesdays & Wednesdays off, and I got to watch much coverage of the tragedy, before I went back to work Thursday.

It was quieter for a few days, but planes do not take off near me. They just approach to land at DFW sometimes when the winds are negligible. Usually noisy in that case only when there's low cloud cover.

But, on the 2nd or 3rd day after 9/11, some hot shot military jet pilot came streaking right over my home going south to north. I had never heard anything that loud come directly over my home. I don't think he was responding to any threat, I think he was just being an asshole.

It struck me as very unusual, that --NO-- overhead pictures of the WTC were released to the media to share with the American public for about 2 weeks. With the recent Hawaiian Volcano eruption and no-fly zone there for several months, Civil Defense photography nevertheless was released on a daily basis...

Aesma · Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:48 am

Keeping politics out of it is kind of difficult considering terrorism is political in nature, many policies led to that event, and many policies were enacted in response to it.

17 years later are there more or less people hating the US ? Has the US radically changed its geopolitical stance ? Are US security agencies streamlined and not competing with each other but working together ?

SkiyaninVannin · Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:50 am

The world has never been the same again. I will always remember where I was and what I was doing.

9 months prior, I had dinner with my family at the windows on the world restaurant in one of the towers. I was idly watching the planes between courses. I remember the toilet attendant, who handed me a fresh hand towel after I washed my hands.

So incredibly sad.

DaveFly · Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:01 pm

I was in midtown Manhattan that day. We actually didn’t know what was happening just a few miles south.

Having said that — I guess I’ll be called un-American — but really, enough already!

What about babies/children who die from cancer? Or people killed everyday in auto accidents or gun violence. Or sudden heart attacks.

9/11 has almost become a celebration. In a few years we’ll have a federal holiday and ‘9/11 mattress sales.’

Kiwirob · Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:29 pm

DaveFly wrote:

Having said that — I guess I’ll be called un-American — but really, enough already!

I watched a report on CNN this morning where a reporter was roving the streets talking to people about 9/11, asking basic question about what organisation did it, who was the mastermind, where did the terrorist come from and what was the war that followed. I couldn't believe the answers people gave, just dumbfounding, some people didn't even know what 9/11 was.

trpmb6 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:56 pm

I am glad A.Net has preserved the forums for so long. Being able to revisit those posts, to feel the raw emotion as if it is today, is extremely powerful - humbling.

I will never forget that day. I still do not know how to talk about it with my kids - who are quite young still, thankfully. I suspect it will be similar to when my grandfather would talk about his experiences in the korean war near pork chop hill.

casinterest · Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:23 pm

trpmb6 wrote:
I am glad A.Net has preserved the forums for so long. Being able to revisit those posts, to feel the raw emotion as if it is today, is extremely powerful - humbling.

I will never forget that day. I still do not know how to talk about it with my kids - who are quite young still, thankfully. I suspect it will be similar to when my grandfather would talk about his experiences in the korean war near pork chop hill.

I had to have the talk the other day, as it was part of the curriculum at school. The kids kind of shrugged it off. However it is something they will hear about over time. They will be detached from it a bit, as i was from Pearl Harbor.

trpmb6 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:33 pm

casinterest wrote:
trpmb6 wrote:
I am glad A.Net has preserved the forums for so long. Being able to revisit those posts, to feel the raw emotion as if it is today, is extremely powerful - humbling.

I will never forget that day. I still do not know how to talk about it with my kids - who are quite young still, thankfully. I suspect it will be similar to when my grandfather would talk about his experiences in the korean war near pork chop hill.

I had to have the talk the other day, as it was part of the curriculum at school. The kids kind of shrugged it off. However it is something they will hear about over time. They will be detached from it a bit, as i was from Pearl Harbor.

Agreed on the detached part. That's why going through the forums from 17 years ago was so powerful. You know all those words were written real time.

I suspect there is a Gaussian distribution that could be fit to how emotionally attached someone is versus the distance away from the epicenters. Those who were directly affected, with specific relatives, are reminded every day. As you become more and more detached you are less likely to remember. All the way down to that tribe in the Amazon who may have no idea, only that on one day 17 years ago the magical flying tubes in the air disappeared completely from the air for a day.

chimborazo · Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:01 pm

It was indeed a horrific event. I watched the second plane live on tv- in UK - after listening on the radio while driving and can still remember shouting out loud.

I was moved watching a documentary last night seeing the emergency services walking towards the building. Many would soon be dead. Hearing them talking on the radio about tackling fires on floor 78 etc... 5 mins before the building dropped.

Many people died for no good reason.

The worst part is the hundreds of thousands who died in the unnecessary aftermath, the millions displaced... and it’s still going on. That’s what should be remembered.

When will we, the human race, learn...

WarRI1 · Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:52 am

They all fade into history eventually. It seems faster these days that the fade away begins. Shorter memories, or over sensory overload.???

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