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If the USSR were still around...

Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:03 am

...how different would the world be?
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:50 am

1. There are no conflicts in Eastern Europe.
2. There was no attack on Yugoslavia in 1999.
3. No war in Ukraine.
4. The population of the Baltic countries is increasing.
5. The population of the USSR exceeded 310 million
6. The economy of the USSR in second place in the world.
7. The base on the moon appeared around 2005.
8. A manned expedition to Mars headed in 2015.
9. Tu-330 aircraft are beginning to be decommissioned - this aircraft has become the most popular in the history of Soviet aircraft, built in the amount of 2500 copies.
10. formed the fifth Soviet Aug on the basis of the nuclear aircraft carrier Ulyanovsk-class

In General, the situation in the world is much more stable, as the United States is not a global hegemon, therefore, forced to act with caution. Iraq and Libya are not destroyed.
The bloc of the USSR and China is gaining influence in the world, demonstrating the advantages of socialism.
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:57 am

We would probably have more of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCVeL9hR-9I
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:20 am

The USSR collapsed for good reasons. So what would you change to allow it to survive up till now ?
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:51 am

The USSR would have a completely different internet, based not on electrons but neutrons. The USSR would have the highest budget action movies. There would still be bread lines. It would still take three years to get a telephone.
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:57 am

Putin would have kept his job as Stasi commander in East Germany.

American and Australian farmers would have been a lot wealthier due to continued "failed harvests" in the USSR.

Automatic guns along the Berlin Wall would long time ago have been replaced by "more efficient" laser guns.

The Estonia shipping catastrophe would not have happened since the Tallinn-Stockholm route would still be unserved.
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:11 am

TWA772LR wrote:
...how different would the world be?

Yes and no.

There is no way it would not have gone/been going bankrupt as it basically did/was on its way toward. That was it's problem. So it would be teetering on the brink of failure so it would be in a similar ineffectual situation as it was when it failed in the late 80's. And that could also mean desperation and a lot of unpredictability. As a nuclear power that is a huge risk.

It is very possible, likely even, that they would try to fund themselves by selling the nuclear tech to other countries. Alternately they could use the nuclear threat to keep power and be on the edge of nuclear war at times.

So the world would be different but it not terribly so.

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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:51 am

Scorpius wrote:
1. There are no conflicts in Eastern Europe.
2. There was no attack on Yugoslavia in 1999.
3. No war in Ukraine.
4. The population of the Baltic countries is increasing.
5. The population of the USSR exceeded 310 million
6. The economy of the USSR in second place in the world.
7. The base on the moon appeared around 2005.
8. A manned expedition to Mars headed in 2015.
9. Tu-330 aircraft are beginning to be decommissioned - this aircraft has become the most popular in the history of Soviet aircraft, built in the amount of 2500 copies.
10. formed the fifth Soviet Aug on the basis of the nuclear aircraft carrier Ulyanovsk-class

In General, the situation in the world is much more stable, as the United States is not a global hegemon, therefore, forced to act with caution. Iraq and Libya are not destroyed.
The bloc of the USSR and China is gaining influence in the world, demonstrating the advantages of socialism.


11. Afghanistan would have been pacified, and 9/11 wouldn't have happened.
12. Desert storm may not have happened in a world where the Soviet Union could afford to keep Saddam safe from retribution.
13. There would undoubtedly have been a ton more proxy wars.
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:16 pm

Scorpius wrote:
In General, the situation in the world is much more stable, as the United States is not a global hegemon, therefore, forced to act with caution. Iraq and Libya are not destroyed.
The bloc of the USSR and China is gaining influence in the world, demonstrating the advantages of socialism.

China would align with USA if USSR is still around
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:09 pm

We would of dug up a black rectangle on the moon 20 years ago, have space stations, and Jupiter would of become a star... hows that?
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:47 am

They are still around, they just had a name change, leadership change, and a "new image".
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:52 pm

Aesma wrote:
The USSR collapsed for good reasons. So what would you change to allow it to survive up till now ?


:checkmark: The USSR collapsed and therefore have had to change if it were to survive.
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:51 am

Scorpius wrote:
1. There are no conflicts in Eastern Europe.
2. There was no attack on Yugoslavia in 1999.
3. No war in Ukraine.
4. The population of the Baltic countries is increasing.
5. The population of the USSR exceeded 310 million
6. The economy of the USSR in second place in the world.
7. The base on the moon appeared around 2005.
8. A manned expedition to Mars headed in 2015.
9. Tu-330 aircraft are beginning to be decommissioned - this aircraft has become the most popular in the history of Soviet aircraft, built in the amount of 2500 copies.
10. formed the fifth Soviet Aug on the basis of the nuclear aircraft carrier Ulyanovsk-class

In General, the situation in the world is much more stable, as the United States is not a global hegemon, therefore, forced to act with caution. Iraq and Libya are not destroyed.
The bloc of the USSR and China is gaining influence in the world, demonstrating the advantages of socialism.


Aerospace tech wouldn't be perpetually stuck in 1988 like it is now (A320-200), but I couldn't imagine what most of the former Eastern-bloc countries would be going through 27 years later... :frown:
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:00 am

Youtube would have 6 billion additional examples of how crazy the Russians drive.

Eastern Europe would enjoy the cultural "wonders" of the Russian lifestyle which presently can be enjoyed in any hotel or resort with a large percentage of Russians.
It's....uuhm....different.

Super ugly cars would roam the Eastern European streets......breaking down constantly.
After all....Ladas are only equipped with rear window heating to keep the hands warm while you're pushing the damn thing.

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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:54 am

notaxonrotax wrote:
Youtube would have 6 billion additional examples of how crazy the Russians drive.

Eastern Europe would enjoy the cultural "wonders" of the Russian lifestyle which presently can be enjoyed in any hotel or resort with a large percentage of Russians.
It's....uuhm....different.

Super ugly cars would roam the Eastern European streets......breaking down constantly.
After all....Ladas are only equipped with rear window heating to keep the hands warm while you're pushing the damn thing.

No Tax On Rotax

Image
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These cars are not commercially available due to the fact that the Soviet Union collapsed.

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These reusable transport spaceships didn't fly into space because the USSR broke up.

The list can be continued for a long time.

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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:26 am

Environmentalists would cheer, as there would be less human beings around.
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:07 am

notaxonrotax wrote:
Youtube would have 6 billion additional examples of how crazy the Russians drive.

Eastern Europe would enjoy the cultural "wonders" of the Russian lifestyle which presently can be enjoyed in any hotel or resort with a large percentage of Russians.
It's....uuhm....different.

Super ugly cars would roam the Eastern European streets......breaking down constantly.
After all....Ladas are only equipped with rear window heating to keep the hands warm while you're pushing the damn thing.

No Tax On Rotax


Yes, these Russians in hotels/resorts are what will replace us Brits when 'the flights will stop' and 'we will have a 15 mile queue to leave'. Personally I think the Spanish tourism industry would benefit from the 20,000,000 visitors we send their way but if they'd rather the Russians then they're welcome! Yes a few brits act themselves abroad but the Russians take it to another level!

I recently went to a favourite resort in southern Spain and there were Russians working together in gangs to (I assume) mug people and were targeting the gay part of town and the nearby steps leading to the beach and then you've got the drunk ones who are legless at lunchtime being rowdy and getting the roubles worth from the all inclusive drinks menu.
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:15 pm

Now now. It's true that they have a bad reputation but that will slowly change. If I was born in the USSR and lived through the Yeltsin era, I would have quite a few rough edges too.

The USSR was genuinely evil, right up there with Nazi Germany. But it collapsed under the weight of it's own contradictions and Russia today is assuredly not evil. It's badly lost, perhaps even willingly so.
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:23 pm

sevenair wrote:
notaxonrotax wrote:
Youtube would have 6 billion additional examples of how crazy the Russians drive.

Eastern Europe would enjoy the cultural "wonders" of the Russian lifestyle which presently can be enjoyed in any hotel or resort with a large percentage of Russians.
It's....uuhm....different.

Super ugly cars would roam the Eastern European streets......breaking down constantly.
After all....Ladas are only equipped with rear window heating to keep the hands warm while you're pushing the damn thing.

No Tax On Rotax

Yes a few brits act themselves abroad but the Russians take it to another level!

.


I avoid places with Brit tourists like the plague. Sure Russians aren't much better but the Brits are the lowest of the low, at least Russians can hold their drink.... The things I've seen........Brits abroad make Americans look like the pinnacle of the civilized world...
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:30 pm

Redd wrote:
sevenair wrote:
notaxonrotax wrote:
Youtube would have 6 billion additional examples of how crazy the Russians drive.

Eastern Europe would enjoy the cultural "wonders" of the Russian lifestyle which presently can be enjoyed in any hotel or resort with a large percentage of Russians.
It's....uuhm....different.

Super ugly cars would roam the Eastern European streets......breaking down constantly.
After all....Ladas are only equipped with rear window heating to keep the hands warm while you're pushing the damn thing.

No Tax On Rotax

Yes a few brits act themselves abroad but the Russians take it to another level!

.


I avoid places with Brit tourists like the plague. Sure Russians aren't much better but the Brits are the lowest of the low, at least Russians can hold their drink.... The things I've seen........Brits abroad make Americans look like the pinnacle of the civilized world...


So where exactly do you avoid? British tourists seem to be everywhere.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:10 pm

Redd wrote:
Brits abroad make Americans look like the pinnacle of the civilized world...


Don't give me all that cobblers!

I've encountered American tourists in the wild in London, Edinburgh, Manchester and Orlando. Not tarring all with the same brush, but the majority are self entitled, brash and rude.

I have met some lovely ones though, like the young family from Nashville visiting Orlando.
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:06 am

SkiyaninVannin wrote:
Redd wrote:
sevenair wrote:
Yes a few brits act themselves abroad but the Russians take it to another level!

.


I avoid places with Brit tourists like the plague. Sure Russians aren't much better but the Brits are the lowest of the low, at least Russians can hold their drink.... The things I've seen........Brits abroad make Americans look like the pinnacle of the civilized world...


So where exactly do you avoid? British tourists seem to be everywhere.



Holiday places that aren't meant for partying. Azores for example, you do meet Brits there but the ones that are traveling for nature and adventure, not to get pissed.
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:05 pm

I miss the Soviet union.. It had the abity to end the United states 5 times over....
 
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Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:08 pm

vrbarreto wrote:
I miss the Soviet union.. It had the abity to end the United states 5 times over....


:roll:
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:33 pm

vrbarreto wrote:
I miss the Soviet union.. It had the abity to end the United states 5 times over....


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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:49 pm

There would be a lot less Plutonium missing as the Oligarchs would not have had access to it. Actually, there would be a lot more dead Oligarchs!
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:21 am

vrbarreto wrote:
I miss the Soviet union.. It had the abity to end the United states 5 times over....


Russia does have the ability to do that in like 20 min, and that isn't changing any time soon.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:23 am

scbriml wrote:

:rotfl:


What's ROFL here? For people in White House Situation Room this isn't ROFL at all BTW. It's geopolitical reality.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:20 am

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What's ROFL here? For people in White House Situation Room this isn't ROFL at all BTW. It's geopolitical reality.


I can't help you if you can't see that making such an empty threat is hilarious. Why is it an empty threat? Because the very action of Russia pressing that button immediately guarantees the end of Russia. Putin has more sense even if the employees at 55 Savushkina St don't.
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:59 pm

scbriml wrote:
anrec80 wrote:
What's ROFL here? For people in White House Situation Room this isn't ROFL at all BTW. It's geopolitical reality.


I can't help you if you can't see that making such an empty threat is hilarious. Why is it an empty threat? Because the very action of Russia pressing that button immediately guarantees the end of Russia. Putin has more sense even if the employees at 55 Savushkina St don't.


as a defensive measure it is not "empty" at all.
It says that if the US ever tries to go for a limited nuclear aggression against the RF it will hurt the US massively.
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:03 pm

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Russia does have the ability to do that in like 20 min, and that isn't changing any time soon.


That sums up Russian/Soviet contribution to humanity in the last 70 years.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:05 pm

WIederling wrote:
It says that if the US ever tries to go for a limited nuclear aggression against the RF it will hurt the US massively.

:rotfl:

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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:14 pm

L410Turbolet wrote:
anrec80 wrote:
Russia does have the ability to do that in like 20 min, and that isn't changing any time soon.


That sums up Russian/Soviet contribution to humanity in the last 70 years.

Add to that the salvation of the world from the Nazis, the withdrawal of humanity into space, an eight-hour working day and social security, which would not have been widespread without the USSR.
 
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:25 pm

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Add to that the salvation of the world from the Nazis


Russia helped defeat the Nazis, it was a team effort. Russia didn't do it on its own, not by a long shot.
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:39 pm

scbriml wrote:
Scorpius wrote:
Add to that the salvation of the world from the Nazis


Russia helped defeat the Nazis, it was a team effort. Russia didn't do it on its own, not by a long shot.


In fairness, they did most of the work and very likely would have won on their own, but probably with Moscow in complete ruins, and all but the UK under a red banner a few years later. The logistics string was just to long from home to win for Germany and no level of incompetence on the Red Army side, and they reeeeallly tried to run out of man and material against largely outdated German equipment, would have changed that.

Of course Nazi´s and real world USSR communism are pretty much just different sides of the same coin, so it was just a technical safe.

Doesn´t the then US president have something in his diaries along the lines of "let them kill as many of each other as possible and then side with the loser" or so?

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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:44 pm

scbriml wrote:
Scorpius wrote:
Add to that the salvation of the world from the Nazis


Russia helped defeat the Nazis, it was a team effort. Russia didn't do it on its own, not by a long shot.

80% of the Nazis ' losses were received on the Eastern Front. Tell me, where would the allies be if the USSR did not take part?
I'm not saying that the Soviet Union did it all alone, but the allies ' contribution was not decisive - the second front was opened when the Nazis had no chance of winning.
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:47 pm

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Image
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These cars are not commercially available due to the fact that the Soviet Union collapsed.


Those cars look like heaps of badly-designed, poorly-constructed crap. I don't think the world missed out on anything there.
DC9/MD90/MD11/F70/BAE146
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:53 pm

KLDC10 wrote:
Scorpius wrote:
Image
Image
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These cars are not commercially available due to the fact that the Soviet Union collapsed.


Those cars look like heaps of badly-designed, poorly-constructed crap. I don't think the world missed out on anything there.


Looks like inspired by the Dale :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth ... orporation

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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:56 pm

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Those cars look like heaps of badly-designed, poorly-constructed crap. I don't think the world missed out on anything there.

And you look like a hater who speaks ill of cars only on the basis that they were developed in the USSR.
 
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:57 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
Looks like inspired by the Dale :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth ... orporation

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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Scorpius wrote:
And you look like a hater who speaks ill of cars only on the basis that they were developed in the USSR.


I prefer "realist".
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:57 pm

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Those cars look like heaps of badly-designed, poorly-constructed crap. I don't think the world missed out on anything there.


US car manufacturers weren't so kind as to not produce their design mishaps.
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:03 pm

1989worstyear wrote:
Aerospace tech wouldn't be perpetually stuck in 1988 like it is now (A320-200), but I couldn't imagine what most of the former Eastern-bloc countries would be going through 27 years later... :frown:


Oh, what?! This again?
DC9/MD90/MD11/F70/BAE146
737/738/739/744/748/752/763/772/789
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Q400/E170/E175/E190/CS300
 
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:04 pm

KLDC10 wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
Looks like inspired by the Dale :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth ... orporation

best regards
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Scorpius wrote:
And you look like a hater who speaks ill of cars only on the basis that they were developed in the USSR.


I prefer "realist".


No. I think "hater"suits you better.
For its time, these machines look quite innovative. Even if it's not to remember about what set of options they were offered.
 
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:09 pm

Scorpius wrote:
scbriml wrote:
Scorpius wrote:
Add to that the salvation of the world from the Nazis


Russia helped defeat the Nazis, it was a team effort. Russia didn't do it on its own, not by a long shot.

80% of the Nazis ' losses were received on the Eastern Front. Tell me, where would the allies be if the USSR did not take part?
I'm not saying that the Soviet Union did it all alone, but the allies ' contribution was not decisive - the second front was opened when the Nazis had no chance of winning.
The USSR did not take part? You make it sound like it was their decision to fight that NAZI's, and that they didn't sign a non aggression treaty splitting up eastern Europe with them (and then get invaded a couple years later). As to the "second" front, which one are you talking about? The one in Africa, the one in Italy, or the one in France?
 
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:19 pm

cledaybuck wrote:
Scorpius wrote:
scbriml wrote:

Russia helped defeat the Nazis, it was a team effort. Russia didn't do it on its own, not by a long shot.

80% of the Nazis ' losses were received on the Eastern Front. Tell me, where would the allies be if the USSR did not take part?
I'm not saying that the Soviet Union did it all alone, but the allies ' contribution was not decisive - the second front was opened when the Nazis had no chance of winning.
The USSR did not take part? You make it sound like it was their decision to fight that NAZI's, and that they didn't sign a non aggression treaty splitting up eastern Europe with them (and then get invaded a couple years later). As to the "second" front, which one are you talking about? The one in Africa, the one in Italy, or the one in France?


Or the one against Japan?
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Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:23 pm

Scorpius wrote:
KLDC10 wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
Looks like inspired by the Dale :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth ... orporation

best regards
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Scorpius wrote:
And you look like a hater who speaks ill of cars only on the basis that they were developed in the USSR.


I prefer "realist".


No. I think "hater"suits you better.
For its time, these machines look quite innovative. Even if it's not to remember about what set of options they were offered.


In the 70's they looked innovative. When where they made?

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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:31 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
In the 70's they looked innovative. When where they made?

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Thomas


I guess late 80s/early 90s, as Scorpius claims they never entered production because the USSR collapsed.
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:34 pm

tommy1808 wrote:

In the 70's they looked innovative. When where they made?

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Thomas

Let's compare with the samples of cars ~1990:
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:00 pm

Scorpius wrote:
https://cdn.iz.ru/sites/default/files/styles/900x600/public/photo_list-2017-05/8f72244b4f25b1d1c195ea71be38d1b9.jpg?itok=qt6y6x3X
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/file ... 8b4569.jpg
http://www.autoforum.cz/tmp/magazin/m9/ ... 00_600.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eWwo8_0SKYs/ ... CVVy4U.jpg


Any idea about the time frame for those ?

Mid to late 80ties?

(Western) en vogue styling of the time:
https://www.autozeitung.de/steinwinter- ... 18559.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkT8RneZXis

and the US copy of the pictured minivan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_minivan_%28AS%29
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Re: If the USSR were still around...

Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:13 pm

WIederling wrote:

and the US copy of the pictured minivan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_minivan_%28AS%29
:-)


Nah, more Renault Espace Gen. 1.

But the low cost Colani Truck is cool.

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