Moderators: richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

 
Airstud
Topic Author
Posts: 4883
Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2000 11:57 am

The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:46 am

is Darmok.

I say "self-contained" as distinct from two- or three-parters, like Gambit or Chain of Command.

Come to think of it I don't really remember Gambit, but Chain of Command was awesome.

But not self-contained.

:boggled:
Pancakes are delicious.
 
User avatar
Tugger
Posts: 10372
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:38 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:57 am

Airstud wrote:
is Darmok.

At Tanagra!

Sokath, his eyes open:

"The Inner Light"

Tugg
I don’t know that I am unafraid to be myself, but it is hard to be somebody else. - W. Shatner
There are many kinds of sentences that we think state facts about the world but that are really just expressions of our attitudes. - F. Ramsey
 
vikkyvik
Posts: 12574
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:58 pm

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:57 pm

The Best of Both Worlds, Part 1

:biggrin:
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
desertjets
Posts: 7693
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2000 3:12 pm

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:34 pm

Yesterday's Enterprise... hands down
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
 
User avatar
casinterest
Posts: 11252
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:30 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:51 pm

Yesterday's Enterprise would be mine, but I also like Cause and Effect The one where Kelsey Grammer was the other captain.
Where ever you go, there you are.
 
User avatar
trpmb6
Posts: 3018
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:45 pm

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:25 pm

Yesterday's Enterprise gets my vote as well. It's one of my favorite interpretations of time travel and the butterfly effect, and overlaying of time. (Instead of each decision creating an alternate timeline there exists only one timeline and changing something in the past instantaneously changes everything in the present/future)
 
User avatar
aeromoe
Posts: 1122
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:34 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:28 pm

Ship In A Bottle...it was literally self-contained.
AA AC AS BA BD BF BN BR(1) BY B6 CO CP(2) DG DL EA EI EN FL FT F9 HA HP ICX JI JQ J7 KE KL KS LH MC NW OC OO OZ(1) OZ(2) PA PI PT QF QQ RM RO RV(1) RV(2) RW SK SM SQ S4 TI TS TW UA UK US UZ VS VX WA WN WS W7 XV YV YX(2) ZZ 9K
 
ChrisKen
Posts: 974
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:15 pm

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:15 pm

Encounter at Farpoint. It went downhill from there.
 
User avatar
DocLightning
Posts: 21812
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:51 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:53 pm

You misspelled "The Chase."
-Doc Lightning-

"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
-Carl Sagan
 
User avatar
Channex757
Posts: 2394
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:07 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:15 pm

"The Inner Light"

This showed just how talented Patrick Stewart is. The way he portrayed a man through his entire life, then the return to Picard with all the consequences of having lived a second life, was sublime acting. This is often (rightly) quoted as being the highpoint of TNG, together with "Darmok".
 
User avatar
Tugger
Posts: 10372
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:38 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:55 pm

Now while "Inner Light' is a different league, I'll add "Parallels" as one I just like. (I mean how can you not like infinite Enterprises?)

Tugg
I don’t know that I am unafraid to be myself, but it is hard to be somebody else. - W. Shatner
There are many kinds of sentences that we think state facts about the world but that are really just expressions of our attitudes. - F. Ramsey
 
User avatar
EA CO AS
Posts: 15694
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2001 8:54 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:24 pm

I'd have to go with "Yesterday's Enterprise" as well, although I never got why they ditched the department shirts under the "monster maroon" uniforms from the movies.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan

Comments made here are my own and are not intended to represent the official position of Alaska Air Group
 
tommy1808
Posts: 12853
Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:24 pm

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:20 am

trpmb6 wrote:
Yesterday's Enterprise gets my vote as well. It's one of my favorite interpretations of time travel and the butterfly effect, and overlaying of time. (Instead of each decision creating an alternate timeline there exists only one timeline and changing something in the past instantaneously changes everything in the present/future)


Funny enough, in ENT "E squared" the crew only entertained that possibility, and dismissed it, at the end of the episode.

Nonetheless, one of the better rehashes of an old storyline in Enterprise, as a different take on yesterday's Enterprise.

Best regards
Thomad
Well, there is prophecy in the bible after all: 2 Timothy 3:1-6
 
Airstud
Topic Author
Posts: 4883
Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2000 11:57 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:36 am

DocLightning wrote:
You misspelled "The Chase."


The Doctor, his tastes impugned.
Pancakes are delicious.
 
User avatar
T18
Posts: 485
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:28 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:57 pm

I would argue that most TNG episodes (essp before the launch of DS9) were self-contained as the series was (like TOS) primarily an anthology where few events had lasting impacts although there are some very notable exceptions like Picards Borg stuff and La Forges thing with Dr. Brahms that starts in Booby Trap (which is a great episode IMHO).
Either way one of my favorites has got to be S5 E19 The First Duty oddly one of the few Wes Episodes that I enjoy, maybe part of that is the investigation drama and part of it is seeing Wesley as something but the perfect wunderkind that Gene had made him at the start and is one of the reasons many viewers find him easy to hate if you ask me. Also special shout out to Not Tom Paris in that episode.
“Racing's important to men who do it well. When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.” ― Steve McQueen (Le Mans) 1971
 
Flighty
Posts: 9963
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:07 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:58 am

Here’s my contribution to this thread. The correct self contained TNg episode was not The Naked Now.
 
apodino
Posts: 3867
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:11 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Is of course the Drumhead. Lots of things in this episode that are very similar to events in our world today. Plus Jean Simmons was amazing as Norah Satie.
 
User avatar
DocLightning
Posts: 21812
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:51 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:13 pm

Airstud wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
You misspelled "The Chase."


The Doctor, his tastes impugned.

*projection begins*
I'm wondering who you are, and why you have chosen "Darmok." How it has come that you post here, a poster born so long ago.

Intelligence and good taste flared in your mind, before all others in this part of the internet. You left your cyberspace and explored the site, but you found none like yourselves. Your taste thrived for a few years, but what is the life of such things compared with the vast stretches of a lifetime?

We knew that one day your good taste would be gone, that nothing of it would survive. So, I arrived.

I proposed a better episode and scattered it across a few different posts. My persuasive powers contained a message scattered in fragments on these posts directing your taste towards a more correct taste resembling mine. It was my hope that I might be able to save you from your incorrectitude. But since you have posted, my hope has not been fulfilled. You are not a monument to my taste...or to good taste.

That was our wish. That you, too, would know a good ST:TNG episode and would keep alive its memory. But there is no such hope in you. Remember that.

*projection ends*
-Doc Lightning-

"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
-Carl Sagan
 
User avatar
Tugger
Posts: 10372
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:38 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:42 pm

DocLightning wrote:
Airstud wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
You misspelled "The Chase."


The Doctor, his tastes impugned.

*projection begins*
I'm wondering who you are, and why you have chosen "Darmok." How it has come that you post here, a poster born so long ago.

Intelligence and good taste flared in your mind, before all others in this part of the internet. You left your cyberspace and explored the site, but you found none like yourselves. Your taste thrived for a few years, but what is the life of such things compared with the vast stretches of a lifetime?

We knew that one day your good taste would be gone, that nothing of it would survive. So, I arrived.

I proposed a better episode and scattered it across a few different posts. My persuasive powers contained a message scattered in fragments on these posts directing your taste towards a more correct taste resembling mine. It was my hope that I might be able to save you from your incorrectitude. But since you have posted, my hope has not been fulfilled. You are not a monument to my taste...or to good taste.

That was our wish. That you, too, would know a good ST:TNG episode and would keep alive its memory. But there is no such hope in you. Remember that.

*projection ends*

OK, you're right, there are five lights.....

Tugg
I don’t know that I am unafraid to be myself, but it is hard to be somebody else. - W. Shatner
There are many kinds of sentences that we think state facts about the world but that are really just expressions of our attitudes. - F. Ramsey
 
User avatar
DocLightning
Posts: 21812
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:51 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:06 pm

Tugger wrote:
OK, you're right, there are five lights.....

Tugg

Image
-Doc Lightning-

"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
-Carl Sagan
 
Airstud
Topic Author
Posts: 4883
Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2000 11:57 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:18 pm

DocLightning wrote:
Airstud wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
You misspelled "The Chase."


The Doctor, his tastes impugned.

*projection begins*
I'm wondering who you are, and why you have chosen "Darmok." How it has come that you post here, a poster born so long ago.

Intelligence and good taste flared in your mind, before all others in this part of the internet. You left your cyberspace and explored the site, but you found none like yourselves. Your taste thrived for a few years, but what is the life of such things compared with the vast stretches of a lifetime?

We knew that one day your good taste would be gone, that nothing of it would survive. So, I arrived.

I proposed a better episode and scattered it across a few different posts. My persuasive powers contained a message scattered in fragments on these posts directing your taste towards a more correct taste resembling mine. It was my hope that I might be able to save you from your incorrectitude. But since you have posted, my hope has not been fulfilled. You are not a monument to my taste...or to good taste.

That was our wish. That you, too, would know a good ST:TNG episode and would keep alive its memory. But there is no such hope in you. Remember that.

*projection ends*


:boggled:
Pancakes are delicious.
 
User avatar
DocLightning
Posts: 21812
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:51 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:58 pm

Airstud wrote:
:boggled:


I won! :D
-Doc Lightning-

"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
-Carl Sagan
 
Airstud
Topic Author
Posts: 4883
Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2000 11:57 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:49 am

DocLightning wrote:
Airstud wrote:
:boggled:


I won! :D


I'm OK with that as long as you don't try to take credit for having coined "incorrectitude."
Pancakes are delicious.
 
User avatar
DocLightning
Posts: 21812
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:51 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:48 am

Airstud wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
Airstud wrote:
:boggled:


I won! :D


I'm OK with that as long as you don't try to take credit for having coined "incorrectitude."


I coined that word billions of years before life evolved on your planet. :old:
-Doc Lightning-

"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
-Carl Sagan
 
User avatar
aeromoe
Posts: 1122
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:34 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:43 am

Airstud wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
You misspelled "The Chase."


Yeah well hardly anyone uses "then" and "than" correctly on social media...
AA AC AS BA BD BF BN BR(1) BY B6 CO CP(2) DG DL EA EI EN FL FT F9 HA HP ICX JI JQ J7 KE KL KS LH MC NW OC OO OZ(1) OZ(2) PA PI PT QF QQ RM RO RV(1) RV(2) RW SK SM SQ S4 TI TS TW UA UK US UZ VS VX WA WN WS W7 XV YV YX(2) ZZ 9K
 
1989worstyear
Posts: 887
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:53 pm

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:46 am

I always seem to think of this show and the Enterprise D whenever I fly on an A320. It's the same feeling I get when I get on a 767 and think of Wrath of Khan and the refit Enterprise. Probably the cheesy dated 1987 Airbus interiors.
¥
Back to topic - either "Yesterday's Enterprise" or "Parallels". I remember crying as a 5/6 year old when the Enterprise D was trashed in "Generations" lol.
Stuck at age 15 thanks to the certification date of the A320-200 and my parents' decision to postpone having a kid by 3 years. At least there's Dignitas...
 
User avatar
T18
Posts: 485
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:28 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:40 pm

I'm not sure Yesterdays Enterprise can be called self contained, you really need to have been watching from Season 1 for the Yar arc to mean as much as it should. It also then comes back many times down the road with Commander Sela.
“Racing's important to men who do it well. When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.” ― Steve McQueen (Le Mans) 1971
 
User avatar
DIRECTFLT
Posts: 2257
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:00 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:58 am

Smoothest Ride so far ~ AA A300B4-600R ~~ Favorite Aviation Author ~ Robert J. Serling
 
User avatar
aeromoe
Posts: 1122
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:34 am

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:28 am

I already stated it: Ship In A Bottle. Done. Finished.
AA AC AS BA BD BF BN BR(1) BY B6 CO CP(2) DG DL EA EI EN FL FT F9 HA HP ICX JI JQ J7 KE KL KS LH MC NW OC OO OZ(1) OZ(2) PA PI PT QF QQ RM RO RV(1) RV(2) RW SK SM SQ S4 TI TS TW UA UK US UZ VS VX WA WN WS W7 XV YV YX(2) ZZ 9K
 
Bostrom
Posts: 949
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The correct self-contained ST TNG episode

Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:49 pm

Any episode with Q.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: alfa164 and 41 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos