DarkSnowyNight wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:...
That does not contradict anything I've said. Especially where the example you have of UCMJ comes in. One event can easily trigger multiple charges. It doesn't require multiple jurisdictions either, although, as I have said, if the same event violates two different codes, you can expect to pay for both. In all of the cases you mention (and all like that there have ever been), the code/statute violations do have different numbers based on who's prosecuting at the moment. The fact that it is the same event is not relevant.
This is not controversial.
Of far greater import, it also adds nothing to the notion that american states are somehow equal to countries, as another poster quite foolishly suggested. That's the larger point. Semantics will not make South Carolina equal to Spain.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:But it is the same elements of the crime tried by two sovereigns which you said couldn’t happen under “lesser included”. You can be charged in what many erroneously believe to be double jeopardy.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:No, South Carolina isn’t the same as Spain, I never asserted it was, but it is a separate sovereign and out system is based on states being so. It’s closerto Spain than say Brittany is in France or Rutland is in the UK.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:You would wish it otherwise, in fact, seem to be open to eliminating states, in the international sense, altogether.
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