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Fridge recommendations?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:38 am

Well, our Frigidaire is about five years old (to within a week) and we've already had the interior damper between the fridge and freezer sections need replacement to the tune of $400 and then it's started making a weird grinding noise that seems to be caused by a vibrating piece in the freezer because it stops if you stuff a bag of frozen vegetables into a certain spot and then today it just...stopped cooling. An unplug and re-plug got it working again, but it seems as if five years is the lifetime for these things lately and it's time to replace this appliance before we find ourselves in an "OMG OUR FRIDGE DIED" crisis.

Our first, which came with the house, was a brand-new Samsung. It died *THE DAY AFTER THE WARRANTY EXPIRED* and we were informed that the new motherboard would have to come from Korea (Really? You have an entire US market and you don't stock this part stateside?) and that if we could just wait a month... :lol: So I won't get another Samsung.

I've heard good things about Whirlpool for reliability. Any informed opinions should be posted here.

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Re: Fridge recommendations?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:47 am

I believe there was (still is?) a forum member called "Fridgmus."

That's whom I would ask.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:55 am

DocLightning wrote:
interior damper between the fridge and freezer sections need replacement to the tune of $400


defuck? I could rebuy my fridge/freezer and go out and invite someone to a decent dinner with 400 USD......
That being said, its just 112 +48 Liter, so maybe smaller than what you are looking for being american and all....

I've heard good things about Whirlpool for reliability. Any informed opinions should be posted here.


Forget about brand names, you pay extra for the logo and get zero benefit from it (see Next day express warranty :D ). Buy by design, haptic, spec and price.

My Whirlpool washing machine starting to develop rust in many places to the point where it effected washing results less than a year after getting it, and the 5 year gold warranty that came with it didn´t think that was an issue worth of mending either (last brand household appliance i ever bought).

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Re: Fridge recommendations?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:58 am

tommy1808 wrote:
Forget about brand names


All refrigerators are of some brand, though.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:06 am

DocLightning wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
Forget about brand names


All refrigerators are of some brand, though.


A company name, yes.... but "Brand" .....? Don´t know about the US, but here about half the portfolio in stores will be from companies i never head off because they don´t advertise.

My fridges "brand", Bomann is a brand of Clatronic and just labels whatever they find and like on the global market, i.e. what is cheap and has marketable specs.

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Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:34 am

I bought a Bosch about 10 years ago and never had any issues.
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:51 am

mad99 wrote:
I bought a Bosch about 10 years ago and never had any issues.


Same here. Our Bosch is 7 years old and still working like day one, including a cross-country move.
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:13 am

I've been in my current apartment for three years and all the kitchen appliances are Whirlpool and have behaved themselves spectacularly.

The house I grew up in for 14 years had Whirlpool washer y dryer that also never, at any point in 14 years, gave us 5 seconds of difficulty.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:29 am

we have an LG
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:42 am

I just re-did the kitchen and went with the GE Profile suite. Right at a year now, and no issues.

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mad99 wrote:
I bought a Bosch about 10 years ago and never had any issues.


While I never had a Bosch fridge, I did have a front-load washing machine that was endless trouble.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:49 am

fr8mech wrote:
I did have a front-load washing machine that was endless trouble.


Gross.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:41 am

Man that’s the first time i’ve seen a fridge with a coffee maker!!

Ours is just like that if you were to cut it in half

And remove the coffee maker
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:01 am

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I bought a Bosch about 10 years ago and never had any issues.

mine's dated 1991.
probably runs on some very toxic gas and sucks 85% of the electricity I pay.
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Re: Fridge recommendations?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:19 pm

DocLightning wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
Forget about brand names


All refrigerators are of some brand, though.


Branding is a thing you often apply late in production.
i.e. whatever the sticker the content may be the same.

We bought a bargain offer labeled VestFrost ( Dk sourced, 1 case but separate, stacked Fridge||Freezer)
at 1000 Töpfe in Hamburg AD 1992.
Still running <nock, nock> though one of the door handles gave up midterm.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:27 pm

I also have a Bosch fridge/freezer and it has never been any problems with it. Works perfectly.
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:41 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
Forget about brand names


All refrigerators are of some brand, though.


A company name, yes.... but "Brand" .....? Don´t know about the US, but here about half the portfolio in stores will be from companies i never head off because they don´t advertise.

My fridges "brand", Bomann is a brand of Clatronic and just labels whatever they find and like on the global market, i.e. what is cheap and has marketable specs.

best regards
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Actually, most of the appliance brands now belog to few companies. Here's the list of brands owned by Whirlpool: Whirlpool, Maytag, KitchenAid, Jenn-Air, Amana, Gladiator GarageWorks, Inglis, Estate, Brastemp, Bauknecht, Ignis, Indesit, Consul, Hotpoint, Diqua, Affresh, Acros, Yummly.

For a list of brands owned by Electrolux look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolux. And we could continue with other companies.

And to go back on topic, here's the list of the most reliable appliances compiled by a dealer: https://blog.yaleappliance.com/bid/8633 ... nce-brands

BTW Tommy, you never cook?
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:06 pm

I've always had good luck with Whirlpool. I've been in my current apartment for 4.5 years now. It had all-new Maytag appliances when I moved in, and I've had no issues with any of them.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:53 pm

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BTW Tommy, you never cook?


Plenty, why?
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:13 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
WildcatYXU wrote:

BTW Tommy, you never cook?


Plenty, why?


Because the refrigerator volume you use seems to be on the low side. We use two refrigerator freezer combos, 500 and 750 liters (I don't know the split between the refrigerators and freezers). And usually both are full. I need to move the smaller one to my basement shop where I intend to use as a beer keg refrigerator to test the repaired equipment, but every attempt to merge the content of the two failed.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:18 pm

mad99 wrote:
I bought a Bosch about 10 years ago and never had any issues.


Same here recently moved house and decided to buy all new appliances. Washing machine/Dryer and Oven all Bosch. I buy things to last even if you pay a bit more. Had BEKO in the past and never again. You get what you pay for. Samsung is not a bad make either and my American style fridge-freezer is made by them.
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:20 pm

LG appliances seem to be a great combination of facilities and price. There's a US-style double front one up at my dad's which they have had for years and it looks as good as the day they bought it. Really durable and a ton of space.
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:24 pm

WildcatYXU wrote:
Because the refrigerator volume you use seems to be on the low side. We use two refrigerator freezer combos, 500 and 750 liters (I don't know the split between the refrigerators and freezers). And usually both are full. I need to move the smaller one to my basement shop where I intend to use as a beer keg refrigerator to test the repaired equipment, but every attempt to merge the content of the two failed.


How many people forage at your place ;-?
you life in a tribal setup?

For a family of 5 we have one 240l/110l fridge/freezer combo
and a 300l freezer "coffin" bought solely
for sudden inrush of a half pig, a whole sheep or some larger pieces of game.

beyond preparation losses ( potato peels, carrot greens, ..) we have few losses that (have to) go in the bin.
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:07 am

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How many people forage at your place ;-?
you life in a tribal setup?

For a family of 5 we have one 240l/110l fridge/freezer combo
and a 300l freezer "coffin" bought solely
for sudden inrush of a half pig, a whole sheep or some larger pieces of game.

beyond preparation losses ( potato peels, carrot greens, ..) we have few losses that (have to) go in the bin.


Yes, European appliances are ridiculously small. Before we moved to Canada, we had a 200/50l combo. Honestly, I wouldn't like to go back to that. And it's 4 adults. Basically no eating outside, so there is quite a lot of food prepared in our kitchen.
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:53 am

Wife and I have an LG for the last 3 years. No complaints about it so far.
 
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mdsh00 wrote:
Wife and I have an LG for the last 3 years. No complaints about it so far.


We have this one : https://www.lg.com/ca_en/refrigerators/ ... or-in-door 2 years, no problems. LG appliances have a fairly long tradition in our family. It started with a combo microwave oven (microwave, convection and broil with a rotisserie) when LG was still Gold Star. I was really sorry to sell it when we were moving to Canada.
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:39 am

i just buy my appliances at costco, can't beat their warranties. LG if you don't like samsung, but i always buy samsung.
 
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:22 am

WildcatYXU wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
WildcatYXU wrote:

BTW Tommy, you never cook?


Plenty, why?


Because the refrigerator volume you use seems to be on the low side.


And I was always thinking cooking reduces fridge space demand. ....
I shop 2-3 times per week, most cooking ingredients are either fresh (Most vegetables) or don't need refrigation (I like corn, peas, beans best that way), and just some (herbs, tiny boxes, spinach, big boxes) are frozen. I don't eat meat, so no space for that, and not much fish. I don't drink beer or much in the way of pop ... That fridge is plenty big.

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Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:26 am

I don't have brand to recommend, just that you should try a bottom freezer refrigerator, if you haven't already.
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:49 pm

23 year old Whirlpool, Top freezer. Ton of room and Zero issues, dead quiet, even temps. Consumer reports did a huge article about the different sizes and styles. They say in the end the Top freezer is more efficient and has more room than most others. I guess it comes down to what you prefer, simple is what I like. Whose paying 5K for a touch screen on a fridge... not me. Good luck on your quest.
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Our high end GE died at about the 8 year mark. Realtor had provided a one year warranty, and for space considerations it was replaced by the same model. If it were my own money I would have bought the $1K, rather than the $2K, the lower priced GE was going strong after 15 years in our former house, as big and almost as fancy.
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:49 pm

i like the freezer at the bottom but for a different reason. it's easy to clean out. They have large bottom tray that just pulls out and you can wash down in the sink and put back. super easy for cleaning if something explodes or if pop-cycles melt.
 
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DocLightning wrote:
Well, our Frigidaire is about five years old (to within a week) and we've already had the interior damper between the fridge and freezer sections need replacement to the tune of $400 and then it's started making a weird grinding noise that seems to be caused by a vibrating piece in the freezer because it stops if you stuff a bag of frozen vegetables into a certain spot and then today it just...stopped cooling. An unplug and re-plug got it working again, but it seems as if five years is the lifetime for these things lately and it's time to replace this appliance before we find ourselves in an "OMG OUR FRIDGE DIED" crisis.

Our first, which came with the house, was a brand-new Samsung. It died *THE DAY AFTER THE WARRANTY EXPIRED* and we were informed that the new motherboard would have to come from Korea (Really? You have an entire US market and you don't stock this part stateside?) and that if we could just wait a month... :lol: So I won't get another Samsung.

I've heard good things about Whirlpool for reliability. Any informed opinions should be posted here.

Any ill-informed, ranty, all-caps opinions should be PMed to EinsteinBoricua. ;)


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Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:35 pm

Classa64 wrote:
23 year old Whirlpool, Top freezer. Ton of room and Zero issues, dead quiet, even temps. Consumer reports did a huge article about the different sizes and styles. They say in the end the Top freezer is more efficient and has more room than most others. I guess it comes down to what you prefer, simple is what I like. Whose paying 5K for a touch screen on a fridge... not me. Good luck on your quest.


Agreed. I have a Whirlpool side-by-side going on about 15 years now; other than changing the water filter, it has never needed anything. Not to mention the Whirlpool didn'd cost nearly as much as the more "fashionable" brands.
 
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Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:36 am

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Any ill-informed, ranty, all-caps opinions should be PMed to EinsteinBoricua. ;)


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Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:52 am

Welp, we ordered a new LG. Delivery can't be for a month, but no worries. Our fridge is still running.

Got home from Home Depot and the kitchen smelled of refrigerant and the fridge was off. Refrigerant leak. So opening windows, venting out, frantic run back to Best Buy where it turns out *they* can get us the same model on Wednesday, but they don't have a suitable mini-fridge, so back to Home Depot where I found a suitable mini-fridge and then had to wrassle the thing into my Honda Accord to get it home, schlep it across the street and into the house, and at least I'm able to save some food.

In the process, I called up the guy who fixed our fridge when it went out this summer and the first thing he said after howling at me to open the windows (that refrigerant stuff makes you woozy) was "OMG DON'T GET AN LG!!!" Apparently, the compressors are terrible. He recommends Whirlpool, Kitchen-Aid, or Kenmore. I won't do Kenmore after we had to live for a month without a washer thanks to their crappy design and crappier service. Kitchen-Aid doesn't make a model with the features we want, so back we go tomorrow to get a Whirlpool.
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Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:11 pm

Did the delivery guys haul away your old Frigidaire or you still have it?

The damper is $60-$100 and 30 minutes DIY.

Every appliance make/model has a couple sub-par components which pre-maturely fail and they are cheap and very easy to repair. But because service providers charge a markup on parts and fixed labor, consumers are forced to replace with new one and the recyclers making a ton selling parts.

On a Frigidaire(or any brand) side-by-side, it is either the damper or adaptive frost control system (symptom produce freezing on refrigerator side) or compressor starter relay(not cool enough, symptom clicking noise and milk goes bad). Both are easy fixes for less than $100 and it will run for another 5 years.

Two design issues with any auto-defrost freezer+refrigirator models. The refrigerator side runs of the same compressor, ie., piggybacks on the freezer with a control board and damper. Because of auto-defrost, every 8 hours freezer goes into a defrost cycle rising its temperature up to 17 F. Not good for long-term food storage.
 
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Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:20 pm

I like the brand electrolux. Current fridge is a GE. If you move it while it is plugged in, it blows its circuit board. which costs $100. The GE has worked well for 10-12 years. I think it is a keeper. Ebay has essentially all appliance or car parts by the way.
 
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Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:43 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
Did the delivery guys haul away your old Frigidaire or you still have it?

The damper is $60-$100 and 30 minutes DIY.


Is it Wednesday?

The damper is replaced. There is a coolant leak. There is no practical way to fix that.
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