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Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:08 pm

Yeah, you read that right:
The same guy whose group was arrested+convicted after threatening to kill federal agents, whose family members owe more than $1million in unpaid taxes, who were illegally squatting on Federal property, who repeatedly called for the death of President Obama, and who just 5months ago was pardoned by President Trump....

....has now renounced his militia, and is speaking in solidarity with the migrant caravans.
Ya can't make this stuff up. :eek:

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I didn't believe it, until I read about a half-dozen different sources, all of whom are now reporting the same thing; as well as the AP.
I'm also looking at screenshots of all the death threats and treason accusations on his Twitter, by fellow militiamen.

What gives?!

I mean, I'm happy to see it and all, but I question the motives; I wouldn't trust this guy for a second.

Thoughts?
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:18 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
Yeah, you read that right:
The same guy whose group was arrested+convicted after threatening to kill federal agents, whose family members owe more than $1million in unpaid taxes, who were illegally squatting on Federal property, who repeatedly called for the death of President Obama, and who just 5months ago was pardoned by President Trump....

....has now renounced his militia, and is speaking in solidarity with the migrant caravans.
Ya can't make this stuff up. :eek:

Image

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/ ... ravan.html

I didn't believe it, until I read about a half-dozen different reliable sources, all of whom are now reporting the same thing; as well as the AP.
I'm also looking at screenshots of all the death threats and treason accusations on his Twitter, by fellow militiamen.

What gives?!

I mean, I'm happy to see it and all, but I question the motives; I wouldn't trust this guy for a second.

Thoughts?

Hmmm... I think he is actually being consistent.

If he doesn't recognize the authority of the US government why would he support that same government trying to stop those who want to come here to live and work? It's a free country.

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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:17 pm

A consistent political belief. Rare these days.

Crazy, but rare.

His whole thing was hijacked by crazies but he had a fairly consistent belief system from day one.
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:22 pm

Good for him, he survived the black hole of right-wing extremism.
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:22 am

Berevoff wrote:
His whole thing was hijacked by crazies

Apparently so, seeing as they want him dead now.

Though I think it'd be a distortion of history to say that he didn't embrace/use the crazies for his own objectives....
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:30 am

I wonder if he needs help on his ranch? If he supports the migrant caravan, he can get low wage workers.

I also find it interesting that all these right wingers on this board claiming how "liberals" want open borders and one of their own is asking for it. Things that make me go hmmmmm......
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:03 am

He was an anarchist then and he's an anarchist now. And a narcissist to boot.
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:44 am

seb146 wrote:
I wonder if he needs help on his ranch? If he supports the migrant caravan, he can get low wage workers.

That was my initial guess too... but he could get literal truckloads of help from immigrant laborers (legal or otherwise) already in the USA, with minimal effort.

So why risk death threats, by making it public and branching off from his now-widely known group?

Still sorta scratching my head.
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:45 am

He's a Mormon and Mormons are against Trump's stance on immigration so this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:38 pm

seb146 wrote:
I wonder if he needs help on his ranch? If he supports the migrant caravan, he can get low wage workers.

I also find it interesting that all these right wingers on this board claiming how "liberals" want open borders and one of their own is asking for it. Things that make me go hmmmmm......


That's because Bundy is a staunch Libertarian and not a conservative Republican. They're totally different belief systems and have drastically opposing views. Libertarians are by their nature supportive of open borders.
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:42 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
seb146 wrote:
I wonder if he needs help on his ranch? If he supports the migrant caravan, he can get low wage workers.

That was my initial guess too... but he could get literal truckloads of help from immigrant laborers (legal or otherwise) already in the USA, with minimal effort.

So why risk death threats, by making it public and branching off from his now-widely known group?

Still sorta scratching my head.


I really do think this is him being a true Libertarian. These crazies who have surrounded him are more Conservative Christian Nationalists which is not what he is or wants to be. I think this was eventually going to happen because their beliefs are quite different. He is Mormon after all. Its the same when a traditional democrat or socialist cause is hijacked by anarchists or antifa...they're both on the left but one is somewhat reasonable and the other is just way out there.
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:50 am

DLFREEBIRD wrote:
He's a Mormon and Mormons are against Trump's stance on immigration so this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.


They seemed to have looked the other way in November 2016 as Trump won in Utah.
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:41 am

LMP737 wrote:
DLFREEBIRD wrote:
He's a Mormon and Mormons are against Trump's stance on immigration so this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.


They seemed to have looked the other way in November 2016 as Trump won in Utah.



Trump got 45.54% of the Vote in Utah, i wouldn't call that looking the other way
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:30 pm

seb146 wrote:
I wonder if he needs help on his ranch? If he supports the migrant caravan, he can get low wage workers.

I also find it interesting that all these right wingers on this board claiming how "liberals" want open borders and one of their own is asking for it. Things that make me go hmmmmm......

Devin Nunes' family runs a dairy farm that depends almost entirely on illegal labor, along with most agriculture and especially Iowa dairy farms, but that's none of my business :roll:
 
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Re: Ammon Bundy renounces militia, supports migrant caravan

Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:28 am

DLFREEBIRD wrote:


Trump got 45.54% of the Vote in Utah, i wouldn't call that looking the other way


If the Mormons had that big an issue with him he would not have won in Utah. That's a fact.

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