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Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:43 pm

In the early Iowa primaries Trump has an approval rating of 61%, and 80% of registered republicans would vote for Trump again! This is great news for our nation. Trump has done more in two years than Obama did in 8. Keep winning! #MAGA!

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 312476002/
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:57 pm

A) That is amongst registered republican in one right leaning state (They re elected Steve King for Pete's sake)

B) If only 80% of people that voted for Trump are open to voting for him again, he loses in 2020 by a wide margin. Remember, he lost the popular vote and barley won the swing states he needed. IF ho only gets 80% of those votes back, he's toast.

C) You're well known to just be a troll on this board, so shame on me for even responding to a mislabeled attempted trolling.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:01 pm

Only two-thirds that would definitely vote for him again and almost two-thirds would welcome challengers to Trump. And you think that's good?
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:16 pm

Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation. These numbers indicate a landslide in 2020 for Trump.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:01 pm

AA747123 wrote:
Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation.


The same Iowa primaries that Ted Cruz won in 2016 and Mike Huckabee in 2008?
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:05 pm

bagoldex wrote:
AA747123 wrote:
Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation.


The same Iowa primaries that Ted Cruz won in 2016 and Mike Huckabee in 2008?


Politically, Iowa is really overrated and isn't a measurement for shit. They need to drop their status as first primary stat.
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:26 pm

AA747123 wrote:
In the early Iowa primaries Trump has an approval rating of 61%, and 80% of registered republicans would vote for Trump again! This is great news for our nation. Trump has done more in two years than Obama did in 8. Keep winning! #MAGA!

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 312476002/


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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:32 pm

AA747123 wrote:
Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation. These numbers indicate a landslide in 2020 for Trump.



In... the primary? Do you understand any of this? I've always wondered that with your posts... a very sophisticated troll job or just someone who doesn't understand much.
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:58 pm

AA747123 wrote:
In the early Iowa primaries Trump has an approval rating of 61%, and 80% of registered republicans would vote for Trump again!


His chances going to prison are higher.
 
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Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:02 pm

jpetekyxmd80 wrote:
AA747123 wrote:
Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation. These numbers indicate a landslide in 2020 for Trump.



In... the primary? Do you understand any of this? I've always wondered that with your posts... a very sophisticated troll job or just someone who doesn't understand much.


Hard to tell. My guess is that AA747123 simply has too much time at the unemployment line in Moscow.

The big part is that "2/3 of Registered Republicans in Iowa want somebody to challenge Drumpf". That simply means there are tons of people that are more along "Well, I'll still vote for Drumpf since he's a Repukeblican, but if somebody challenge him and is good, I'll vote for that other guy (or gal) instead, but either way, #MAGA! #LockHerUp!".

Yes, we all know come general election time, those same reluctant Drumpf voters are still going to hold their nose (and blessed their soul, b/c they're certainly selling them) and vote Repukelican just b/c those Democrats are nothing more than Socialists that's out to take away the guns, get moar of those brown people in (that, well, Iowans hired as cheap labor), etc. Even then, assume even half of the 20% of Drumpf voters that said that won't vote for Drumpf again vote the other way. Using the number from 2016, that means 800983-80098 = 720885 for R, and 653669 + 80098 = 733767 for D. Yep, it'll be a landslide (for President Beto :duck: ).

P.S. Just FYI, if you add up the votes from 2018 election for the House, it's 664,676 votes for D, 612,338 for R in Iowa. Oh, and D flipped 2 of the 4 seats in Iowa (The only R left? Well, that white supremacist just b/c people his district are stupid enough to keep voting him back in)
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:04 pm

2122M wrote:
A) That is amongst registered republican in one right leaning state (They re elected Steve King for Pete's sake)

B) If only 80% of people that voted for Trump are open to voting for him again, he loses in 2020 by a wide margin. Remember, he lost the popular vote and barley won the swing states he needed. IF ho only gets 80% of those votes back, he's toast.

C) You're well known to just be a troll on this board, so shame on me for even responding to a mislabeled attempted trolling.

White supremacists who have never left the state of Iowa love Trump. In other news, water wet. More at 11. :rotfl:
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:42 pm

AA747123 wrote:
In the early Iowa primaries Trump has an approval rating of 61%, and 80% of registered republicans would vote for Trump again! This is great news for our nation. Trump has done more in two years than Obama did in 8. Keep winning! #MAGA!
I thought CNN is fake news...did you read the folks who ran the poll? CNN is one of them. By Trumpian logic, this poll is fake.

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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:48 pm

This is a country where two thirds of the population don't even have a passport -the lack of international exposure is what contributed to the rise of Trump.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:51 pm

AA747123 wrote:
Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation. These numbers indicate a landslide in 2020 for Trump.


No. He lost the popular election to begin with. If only 80 percent of the minority that voted for him the first time around would vote for him again, he loses by a considerably larger margin.

Then again, never underestimate the power of stupid people voting in large numbers.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:00 pm

Actually, let me backtrack a bit.

Aren't polls fake? Or are the polls only real if we like the results?
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:12 pm

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This is a country where two thirds of the population don't even have a passport -the lack of international exposure is what contributed to the rise of Trump.

Yup, Trump does not want us traveling to Russia...he does not want competition of Russian underwriting his loans....
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:15 pm

AA747123 wrote:
In the early Iowa primaries Trump has an approval rating of 61%, and 80% of registered republicans would vote for Trump again! This is great news for our nation. Trump has done more in two years than Obama did in 8. Keep winning! #MAGA!

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 312476002/


You read it wrong. It said 81% approval, and 67% would vote for him again.

THAT MEANS THAT ONE THIRD OF IOWA REPUBLICANS WOULD PREFER SOMEONE ELSE SIGHT UNSEEN.

Your trolling is off today. #selfpwn3d
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:07 pm

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AA747123 wrote:
Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation. These numbers indicate a landslide in 2020 for Trump.



In... the primary? Do you understand any of this? I've always wondered that with your posts... a very sophisticated troll job or just someone who doesn't understand much.

Calling his trolling “very sophisticated” is giving him far too much credit.
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:15 pm

AA747123 wrote:
In the early Iowa primaries Trump has an approval rating of 61%, and 80% of registered republicans would vote for Trump again! This is great news for our nation. Trump has done more in two years than Obama did in 8. Keep winning! #MAGA!

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 312476002/


Congras, AA747123, I'll call it, first price 2018: the most uneven frame of the year used in a head line.

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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:21 pm

With only 67% of voters who previously voted for Trump voting for him during the next elections, Trump would lose.
And if Iowans want to vote for a white guy only, they can vote for Biden. Lots of rumors he will run (I have no definitive source to share).
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:36 pm

jpetekyxmd80 wrote:
AA747123 wrote:
Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation. These numbers indicate a landslide in 2020 for Trump.

In... the primary? Do you understand any of this? I've always wondered that with your posts... a very sophisticated troll job or just someone who doesn't understand much.


Well, Trump did say he loves the "poorly educated"...

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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:38 pm

AA747123 wrote:
Early Iowa primaries are a good indication of how things go as a nation. These numbers indicate a landslide in 2020 for Trump.


First of all Iowa doesn't have a presidential primary. The state has caucus system. I would suggest you read up on the difference between a caucus and a primary. Now for your comment regarding how Iowa is a good indication of how things go as a nation. It's apparent you have no idea what you're talking about

The Iowa caucuses have a poor record of picking presidents, but they play the important role of winnowing the field. In only one instance in the history of the modern Iowa caucuses has someone finished lower than third and gone on to win a party’s nomination (John McCain finished fourth by a whisker in 2008). That’s the source of the phrase that presidential candidates have "three tickets out of Iowa."

Since 1972, the top voter-getter in the Democratic caucuses has gone on to win the nomination in seven of nine contested races, but just Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Barack Obama in 2008 won the presidency. Among Republicans since 1980, the winner of the Iowa caucuses has gained the nomination twice in six contested races, but the presidency just once: George W. Bush in 2000.


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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:41 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
AA747123 wrote:
In the early Iowa primaries Trump has an approval rating of 61%, and 80% of registered republicans would vote for Trump again! This is great news for our nation. Trump has done more in two years than Obama did in 8. Keep winning! #MAGA!
I thought CNN is fake news...did you read the folks who ran the poll? CNN is one of them. By Trumpian logic, this poll is fake.

#Checkmate


Be nice to him. He's just following his latest orders from Moscow.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:39 pm

mdsh00 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
AA747123 wrote:
In the early Iowa primaries Trump has an approval rating of 61%, and 80% of registered republicans would vote for Trump again! This is great news for our nation. Trump has done more in two years than Obama did in 8. Keep winning! #MAGA!
I thought CNN is fake news...did you read the folks who ran the poll? CNN is one of them. By Trumpian logic, this poll is fake.

#Checkmate


Be nice to him. He's just following his latest orders from Moscow.


Order from Moscow? He is not even good enough to start for the C-Team in some Siberian towns.

Alternatively, maybe he’s on the receiving end of some Drumpf golden shower video. That would explain everything. :stirthepot:
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:33 am

einsteinboricua wrote:
Actually, let me backtrack a bit.

Aren't polls fake? Or are the polls only real if we like the results?

I cringe at the whining over fake polls, and I'm really confused at this bizarre thread, but I think the "logic" is the polls are skewed left, so it is favoring republicans, it's actually favoring republicans even more, therefore pretty newsworthy (kinda like when Fox criticizes a republican, you know that republican done goofed.)

IDK, probably trying to apply logic where there is none lol
 
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Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:35 am

I love how all polls are fake, except the ones that Trump is "winning" in.
People are saying. Believe me.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:01 am

KICT wrote:
I love how all polls are fake, except the ones that Trump is "winning" in.


Well, there is enough confirmation bias for all to have some. Unfortunately Trump fans have to spend all of it on few data points.

DeltaMD90 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
Actually, let me backtrack a bit.

Aren't polls fake? Or are the polls only real if we like the results?

I cringe at the whining over fake polls, and I'm really confused at this bizarre thread, but I think the "logic" is the polls are skewed left, so it is favoring republicans, it's actually favoring republicans even more, therefore pretty newsworthy (kinda like when Fox criticizes a republican, you know that republican done goofed.)

IDK, probably trying to apply logic where there is none lol


Wouldn´t it be good if people applied more logic to polls? :)

For the "counter point" in Terms of Truim we got NBC https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-t ... ms-n948721

Those numbers are roughly in line with other polls we see, so it is not obvious how there is anything wrong with the results. And if you check the numbers among republicans only, they are even slightly better (!) than in the OPs poll, but error margins are fairly high.
So.. is Trump losing Iowa? :D

The most interesting bit i think is this (from the study, not the summery):
NBC wrote:
Now, who do you want to see take the lead role in setting policy for the country (ROTATE) – President
Trump, Republicans in Congress, or Democrats in Congress?

President Trump: 19%
Republicans in Congress: 21%
Democrats in Congress: 48%


The error margins are not that large.

Good luck being reelected if less than one in five voters things you have policy ideas worth implementation.

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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:04 am

if the republican's get rid of pre- existing conditions, then 28 million people will be voting Trump out in 2020 maybe double that because 28 million people now have pre-existing conditions so i would imagine their partner would also vote them out, oh wait maybe even more cause those with pre-existing conditions might have grown children who will also vote them out. Cause and affect gets people to vote.

Trump approval rating 38% as of 10 hours ago.
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Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:24 am

Agreed ^
Are the GOP really this brain dead to repeal the ACA, kicking millions of people off their health insurance in an election year?
Should the ruling stand, it would effect people in late 2019 / early 2020 during open enrollment, etc.
Just in time for a second routing of the GOP from elected offices across the country...
...hopefully this time, for good.
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:28 am

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AA747123 wrote:
#MAGA!



You read it wrong. It said 81% approval, and 67% would vote for him again.

THAT MEANS THAT ONE THIRD OF IOWA REPUBLICANS WOULD PREFER SOMEONE ELSE SIGHT UNSEEN.

Your trolling is off today. #selfpwn3d


His base was about 35% in the '16 Election. If 67% of that 35% votes for him again that will mean that his base is down to 23.45%. That gives MAGA a whole new meaning.

BTW. Someone on this board already redefined MAGA: My Attorney Got Arrested :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:10 am

KICT wrote:
Agreed ^
Are the GOP really this brain dead to repeal the ACA, kicking millions of people off their health insurance in an election year?

I think they'd "repeal" it but someway or another keep things like pre-existing conditions. I am almost positive the GOP couldn't get rid of pre-existing conditions protections even before they lost the House

They can't just give up on the ACA. They've been whining about it for 8 years (including, funnily enough, 2 years of complete control) so they can't just back out now. Would've worked out better if they used all those years to pretend to come up with a plan (besides, you know, vague references to the free market and more competition)
 
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:21 am

DeltaMD90 wrote:
KICT wrote:
Agreed ^
Are the GOP really this brain dead to repeal the ACA, kicking millions of people off their health insurance in an election year?

I think they'd "repeal" it but someway or another keep things like pre-existing conditions. I am almost positive the GOP couldn't get rid of pre-existing conditions protections even before they lost the House

They can't just give up on the ACA. They've been whining about it for 8 years (including, funnily enough, 2 years of complete control) so they can't just back out now. Would've worked out better if they used all those years to pretend to come up with a plan (besides, you know, vague references to the free market and more competition)


The insurance companies have Republicans in their back pocket so they will get what they want. You can be sure that "pre-existing conditions" will be maintained, but at a far higher cost. $5K a month? Easy. Same with $10K a month.

Medical care in the US is first for increasing wealth of companies and the Billionaire's Boy's Club. Too bad if you are not rich and get really sick.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:00 am

Ken777 wrote:
The insurance companies have Republicans in their back pocket so they will get what they want. You can be sure that "pre-existing conditions" will be maintained, but at a far higher cost. $5K a month? Easy. Same with $10K a month.

Medical care in the US is first for increasing wealth of companies and the Billionaire's Boy's Club. Too bad if you are not rich and get really sick.


The key ingredient to that ACA was this individual mandate. This is now gone, the rest isn't so important. It will get similar to what New York insurance market was before Obamacare - no age discrimination, no medical underwriting, and astronomical ($1000+/mo) pricing for a meaningful policy. Young and healthy (who were supposed to subsidize the system) won't be able to afford those and avoid them like a plaque.

Personally for me, it's good. Being a younger and healthy Canadian living in NYC, I go after expat or comprehensive travel medical policies, which are not ACA compliant. They allow age discrimination (unlike normal policies in New York state), there is medical underwriting (not an issue with me). But they have much better networks, allow out-of-network coverage, and are so much cheaper than comparable New York Exchange policy with a good network. I am better off with one of those even if I am to pay Obamacare penalty in fact.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:22 am

2122M wrote:
C) You're well known to just be a troll on this board, so shame on me for even responding to a mislabeled attempted trolling.


"Everyone I don't agree with is a troll" - spoken like a true fascist.
 
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:43 am

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"Everyone I don't agree with is a troll" - spoken like a true fascist.

Everything I don't like is fake news - seems you guys aren't so innocent either.

And such a big mark of a "fascist" to call them a troll. I wonder what demanding that someone be expelled from the boards would be.
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Re: Trumps approval rating at 61%, 80% would re vote for him

Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:42 pm

aviationaware wrote:
2122M wrote:
C) You're well known to just be a troll on this board, so shame on me for even responding to a mislabeled attempted trolling.


"Everyone I don't agree with is a troll" - spoken like a true fascist.


Oh give me a break. Look at his post history. He recently claimed that the stock market was at a record low when Obama left office. It’s not even thinly veiled trolling at that point.

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