zakuivcustom wrote:Umm...go through the legal immigration process even ONCE, just ONCE, like I just did (not for myself, although my family went through that 15-20 years ago), and you'll realized:
I’ve migrated twice, including once to the USA. And have grounds to believe that I’ve seen a thing or two about migration, types of migrant, migrant communities, and things related to them.
zakuivcustom wrote:1. It's actually a pain for anyone requiring assistance to legally immigrate to US. Yes, this include all those BS "chain migration" that takes what? 10 years on average?
May be dependent on a country of origin, but nowhere close. Months to a year plus is more common. And - often people bring parents or relatives and put them on Section 8, food stamps, Medicaid, and those are expensive things, especially elderly care. I believe we need a much stronger legislature here, requiring, for example, verification of ability of the kids to support the parents. Does he have enough income to support them? Pay full Medicare premiums? Non-cancellable fully paid long-term-care policy upfront please. If you can’t afford that - you better off supporting your parents wherever they are. In Canada in fact they do similar things - immigration policies there are much stricter than those in the USA.
zakuivcustom wrote:2. There ARE already special incentives to get the best and brightest from other countries. They even got a separate queue, nor they count towards the artificial quota limit
They do have a quota, but it’s almost never exhausted. True, there is separate queue, but that’s about it.
zakuivcustom wrote:3. What "social assistance recipient". Seriously, if they're "stealing" all the American jobs, somehow they don't "contribute" to society and just leech the system? Ok, maybe they're being exploited as cheap labors and actually has to get gov't assistance just to survived? Fine, make the gov't passed law to actually make sure people get pay a "living wage".
This is what I am saying - if you don’t know how you will be making a living wage in the USA and what does it take - it’s better for everyone if you don’t come here. Or - if it does not work out, you should go back, it’s OK. Immigration is not for everyone. Each migrant should know to not burn the bridges with their homeland prematurely.
zakuivcustom wrote:Oops, forgot that all these businesses (that at least according to R's are definitely not Democrats) hires those cheap labors b/c they're, well, cheap.
If you think traditional American businesses a-la Walmart are “unclean”, you need to see what’s going on in migrant communities. It’s far from uncommon there to work for cash, and collect Section 8, welfare, Medicaid. Cash employers even help their employees get all that. And the worst - those people don’t integrate and improve their English (“we don’t go out to America”). Of course it’s easy for smart-ass previous generation of migrants to take advantage of them. I certainly believe that this situation needs to be dealt with - “employers” should be prosecuted, and the “employees” should be said - “Sorry, this did not work out. It’s better if you go back where you came from”.
zakuivcustom wrote:Many of the asylum seekers are definitely "economic migrants", b/c even the lowest of lowest job in US pay better than one in, let say, El Salvador or Honduras, if they can even find work there. But hey, all these migrants working their ass off, get pennies in American standards, actually still has to pay tax (income, sales, etc.), and somehow all they do is leech off the system.
First, not all these migrants obviously. How many of European migrants are actually legally and gainfully employed? Less than 1%.
Second - if you are from elsewhere then you probably know that absolute wage amount in itself is meaningless. With American taxes and typical expenditures you need about $2500/mo in a lower-cost-of-living area for rather basic independent living (and that’s if your home is paid for). In other emerging countries - with utility bills and transit being in $50/mo range, zero taxes you can maintain comparable living standard with $300/mo (Russia, Ukraine). We are talking about basic needs covered plus a goodie here and there (a restaurant dinner, a trip to a resort every couple years). There are many other places in South America where they can also help themselves.
5. Oh, and again, why do we even need a wall. Look at the so-call "invasion" by "caravan", what invasion? You mean getting stopped at the border, WITHOUT THE WALL?[/quote]
They have been stopped for now, but they will come back, and without the wall one-by-one they will be inside this country via other places. They aren’t going back obviously.