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Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:14 am

Too many threads involve bickering with the forum’s "liberals".

Please no liberal and/or Democrat trolling in this thread. . It is the goal of this thread to allow conversation from a perspective that is right of center only without any bickering from those who traditionally argue from a left of center perspective.

Liberals have their own thread here: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1412941
 
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:22 am

To get this thread started...

It’s interesting to contrast the two new “rock stars” in Congress: Republican Rep. Dan Crenshaw and socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

AOC just got in trouble for failing to provide worker’s compensation insurance for her campaign staffers. She complained that she wasn’t getting paid immediately after the election. Her policies simply can’t be afforded without catastrophic impacts on the economy.

Dan Crenshaw announced that he will not be taking a paycheck until the security at the southern border is properly funded and the government shutdown ends.

Which of those two would you rather have in charge of your tax dollars?
 
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:23 am

Why the 1st Amendment Matters to those Right of Center...

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Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:30 am

The optics Democrats have employed during the shutdown are downright horrible, starting with the Pelosi-Schumer hostage video.

And now, while Trump has stayed in the White House this weekend to work, at least 30 Democrat Congressmen are partying in Puerto Rico with hundreds of lobbyists. Here are Democrats, who claim to be the champion of the worker, partying in Puerto Rico while 800,000 federal employees are worrying about how they're going to pay their bills and keep a roof over their heads. The event is taking place in a seaside resort where rooms go for $429 a night.

Let’s be honest. Democrats are now the party of big business, not the worker. There are 3.6 lobbyists at this event for every Democrat Congressman. And they represent some of the most powerful big business interests, such as several big K Street firms, R.J. Reynolds, Facebook, Comcast, Amazon, PhRMA, Microsoft, Intel, and Verizon.
 
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:19 pm

Liberals think that no tax is a bad tax. They also love paternalism. Philadelphia’s soda tax is one example.

A study has been conducted on the effectiveness of the tax.

Here are the findings:
1) No significant reduction in calorie and sugar intake.
2) The tax does not lead to a shift in consumption towards healthier products.
3) The tax imposes a relatively larger financial burden on low income households that are less likely to engage in cross-shopping at stores outside of the city.
4) This dismal outcome is wildly at odds with earlier, optimistic economic forecasts about how such soda taxes would fare.

This appears to be yet another liberal policy that has resulted in quantifiable harm to the urban poor.

Study here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=3302335
 
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:40 pm

Support for Trump’s wall is at an all time high.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... -high-poll
 
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:55 pm

Hopefully the Democrats will be coming back from Puerto Rico ready to negotiate with Trump after being wined and dined by big business lobbyists.
 
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:24 pm

Let me guess that Rep Hank Johnson D-GA did not go to Puerto Rico because with Hundreds of Democrat Congressmen and 1,500 or so Lobbyist that he was afraid that Puerto Rico would tip over and he would drown. :wideeyed:

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Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:31 pm

Yeah I think paternalism is a deep, deep issue and a logical flaw in the thinking of the mega-govt people.

I went to a lecture on public housing in Chicago and the entire thinking is that the city government needs to be the center of people's lives, building parks, housing, clinics, food courts, etc for people because they are incapable of living even for several hours without city government. It was bizarre. I think that is the attitude of zookeeper and zoo animals. It is an improper attitude for city officials to have. In terms of sociology, you need to have fathers in communities and if you don't, there is no solution. We need to focus on the facts we know and not resort to this "magical paternalism" which is the new church for some people.
 
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Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:02 pm

I didn't really want to post in this thread. But I didn't want to start another thread with this article. So here it is.

A CNN analyst, Areva Martin, called into David Webb's SiriusXM show to discuss the topic of hiring practices by CBS for their 2020 presidential campaign reporting team and the lack of diversity.

That's when Webb (consistent with positions he's always taken) stated:

"Shouldn’t their requirement — their primary requirement, regardless of ethnicity, regardless of network — be that they are capable of covering politics? Webb questioned. He pointed out that an experienced sports reporter still would not be qualified to lead 2020 campaign coverage because that is not an area of expertise.

I never considered my color the issue [with finding reporting jobs], I considered my qualifications the issue,” Webb said.


That got Martin a bit fired up and resulted in what is probably best described as a hilarious display of foot in mouth.

Martin interjected: “That’s a whole ‘nother long conversation about white privilege, the things that you have the privilege of doing, that people of color don’t have the privilege of.”

Webb shot back: “How do I have the privilege of white privilege?”

“David… by virtue of being a white male you have white privilege.” Martin answered before Webb cut her off: “Areva, I hate to break it to you, but you should’ve been better prepped. I’m black.”


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cnn ... 24216.html

Identity politics at its finest folks. Not that it matters, but for those interested, both Martin and Webb are black. Martin did apologize and noted that her staff hadn't prepped her adequately. (But I still assert, why should her staff be concerned with his race anyways?) The beauty of radio, it doesn't matter what the person on the other side looks like. It's the content of what you're listening to that draws you back to them. Perhaps that's why the left does not have a large presence in talk radio.
 
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Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:34 pm

Here's Paul Joseph Watson's critique of the confrontation of Catholic HS kids with MAGA hats on, by the Black Hebrew Israelites, which part of the story the MSM is glossing over big time, and selectively editing, if they cover their part in instigating the confrontations at all. What the LSM is doing is putting the Catholic teens on trail for how they reacted to being harassed for an hour. They smirked..... Oh Heaven of God!!!!

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Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:08 pm

VTKillarney wrote:
Liberals think that no tax is a bad tax. They also love paternalism. Philadelphia’s soda tax is one example.

A study has been conducted on the effectiveness of the tax.

Here are the findings:
1) No significant reduction in calorie and sugar intake.
2) The tax does not lead to a shift in consumption towards healthier products.
3) The tax imposes a relatively larger financial burden on low income households that are less likely to engage in cross-shopping at stores outside of the city.
4) This dismal outcome is wildly at odds with earlier, optimistic economic forecasts about how such soda taxes would fare.

This appears to be yet another liberal policy that has resulted in quantifiable harm to the urban poor.

Study here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=3302335


The soda tax is a disaster. The Pepsi and Coke bottlers in Philadelphia have laid off workers. Stores are closing. Prices for soda are obscene. I’m grateful to live close enough to the city limits that I can escape the tax. Not everyone has that luxury.

There’s also several million dollars that went missing, and a LOT of people who don’t like the sanctuary city status.

We have a mayoral and city council election this year. It would not surprise me to see Republicans make gains, quite possibly even the Mayorship.

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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:28 am

I detest SNL and it's writers.

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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:57 am

I saw this posted on reddit, and it really makes sense.

RE: MAGA Hat wearing Pro-life Catholic HS Nick Sandmann and Indian Activist and Trump Hater Nathan Phillips

I figured out why they hate Nick Sandmann so much. We finally have our Rosa Parks. It's okay to be white, and I'm not getting to the back of your PC bus.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:49 am

“RUSH LIMBAUGH: Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, what would happen to me if I said that a hijab triggers me and scares me? I couldn’t say that? Well, why not? I mean, if a “Make America Great Again” hat scares, why can’t a hijab? I guess I can’t.”
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DIRECTFLT wrote:
“RUSH LIMBAUGH: Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, what would happen to me if I said that a hijab triggers me and scares me? I couldn’t say that? Well, why not? I mean, if a “Make America Great Again” hat scares, why can’t a hijab? I guess I can’t.”


That's because the hijab is a religious garment. The MAGAt hat is a symbol of repulsive racism and xenophobia. That's why one is acceptable and the other is not.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:30 pm

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1PI0D8

The Midwestern states hit hardest by job automation in recent decades, places that were pivotal to U.S. President Donald Trump’s election, will be under the most pressure again as advances in artificial intelligence reshape the workplace, according to a new study by Brookings Institution researchers.


But the pain may be most intense in a familiar group of manufacturing-heavy states like Wisconsin, Ohio and Iowa, whose support swung the U.S. electoral college for Trump, a Republican, and which have among the largest share of jobs, around 27 percent, at “high risk” of further automation in coming years.


I think some right of center thinking people will at first think "we have to do something to protect our voter base" when they read something like this. But I think that is a mistake. We need to hold true to fiscally conservative values and not interfere with market change when these kinds of shifts happen. These shifts have been happening for hundreds, even thousands of years, just maybe not as swiftly as it is in modern times.

Throughout history there have been huge changes in economic activity driven by some new innovation. In ancient Mesopotamia we learned to cultivate and began forming permanent settlements. As time went on we developed new ways of cultivating - at first using livestock to help plow and plant fields, but later developing machines post industrial revolution to do the job even more efficiently. Now we have combines that can essentially do the job with minimal inputs. You can pre-program harvesting based on how you planted earlier that year using the onboard computer and GPS. Then you can sit back and watch the football game on the satellite TV in the cab. This literally already exists, so it's not a stretch to say that person in the combine won't even have to be in the cab in 5 to 10 years.

The thing is, the economy always adjusts. The people that once did these jobs will all find their place. Someone has to build the technology. Someone has to manage it, someone has to do this or that. No need to get worked up about it.
 
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Then why was my post removed?
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I love how in this thread the "First Amendment" has been suspended and how half of its contributors are banned.

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I love how in this thread the "First Amendment" has been suspended and how half of its contributors are banned.

So much winning!


That is exactly what happened when the leftist thread was created. No dissent allowed because that is what the OP pronounced. This last announcement by the mod is a head-scratcher and things are thoroughly confused as that was certainly not the way that thread was moderated. See his "trolling" post in that thread. But I'll get banned again for saying anything like that.
 
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This is just a reminder that whatever "rules" might have been created for this thread (or any other) does not preclude users with opposing views from commenting. The only enforceable rules in this forum are those posted at the top of every forum (found here viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1393247) . We will not remove comments simply on the basis that users don't agree with what is said.

That said, comments need to remain respectful, as in every thread.

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Interesting. That’s a complete reversal. Thanks for letting us know.
 
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Interesting. That’s a complete reversal. Thanks for letting us know.

In what sense? We have not endorsed these threads. We have not amended any rules limiting who may participate in certain threads, nor restricting what may be said. In the other thread, I simply reminded users that trolling posts are against forum rules. The same applies here, but it's based on what we deem to be trolling. Users posting conflicting points of view are not trolls, they are participants.

If this becomes confusing, I'll be happy to lock both threads. We aren't here to remove comments purely because someone doesn't like what's being said. If that's what you're looking for, I would recommend a different site.
 
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Gotcha. It was confusing.
 
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bgm wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
“RUSH LIMBAUGH: Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, what would happen to me if I said that a hijab triggers me and scares me? I couldn’t say that? Well, why not? I mean, if a “Make America Great Again” hat scares, why can’t a hijab? I guess I can’t.”


That's because the hijab is a religious garment.


Perhaps. But to many women it has also become a symbol of oppression and denial of women's rights.
 
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Dieuwer wrote:
bgm wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
“RUSH LIMBAUGH: Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, what would happen to me if I said that a hijab triggers me and scares me? I couldn’t say that? Well, why not? I mean, if a “Make America Great Again” hat scares, why can’t a hijab? I guess I can’t.”


That's because the hijab is a religious garment.


Perhaps. But to most women it is a symbol of oppression and denial of women's rights.


Fixed it for you.
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DL717 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
bgm wrote:

That's because the hijab is a religious garment.


Perhaps. But to most women it is a symbol of oppression and denial of women's rights.


Fixed it for you.


As a right wing Christian conservative man, are you really in a position to criticize other groups for their oppression of women's rights?
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bgm wrote:
DL717 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:

Perhaps. But to most women it is a symbol of oppression and denial of women's rights.


Fixed it for you.


As a right wing Christian conservative man, are you really in a position to criticize other groups for their oppression of women's rights?


The ignorance of the left with regard to Christian beliefs is astounding.
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DL717 wrote:
bgm wrote:
DL717 wrote:

Fixed it for you.


As a right wing Christian conservative man, are you really in a position to criticize other groups for their oppression of women's rights?


The ignorance of the left with regard to Christian beliefs is astounding.


Reproductive rights. 'Nuff said.
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bgm wrote:
DL717 wrote:
bgm wrote:

As a right wing Christian conservative man, are you really in a position to criticize other groups for their oppression of women's rights?


The ignorance of the left with regard to Christian beliefs is astounding.


Reproductive rights. 'Nuff said.


All lives are equal in the eyes of God.

Eugenics is a deplorable practice. Now go find another liberal thread to dance around in. There’s about a thousand of them.

As a courtesy don’t waste time responding to my posts (or targeting any of my comments), I’ve placed you on ignore. It’s. It a free speech issue. It’s an annoyance issue.
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I’m always amused by things like this, especially after what happened in DC last week. It’s like it didn’t even happen as far as the media on the left goes. I wonder why that is? Must be a double standard or something. I thought there would be a five page thread on this for sure.

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DL717 wrote:
bgm wrote:
DL717 wrote:

The ignorance of the left with regard to Christian beliefs is astounding.


Reproductive rights. 'Nuff said.


All lives are equal in the eyes of God.

Eugenics is a deplorable practice. Now go find another liberal thread to dance around in. There’s about a thousand of them.

As a courtesy don’t waste time responding to my posts (or targeting any of my comments), I’ve placed you on ignore. It’s. It a free speech issue. It’s an annoyance issue.


1) See, by quoting God you are imposing your Christian values on women's reproductive rights. Case in point.

2) You are more than welcome to ignore me, that's your choice. But trying to censor my input into a discussion because you don't agree with in a public forum? :shakehead:
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bgm wrote:
DL717 wrote:
bgm wrote:

Reproductive rights. 'Nuff said.


All lives are equal in the eyes of God.

Eugenics is a deplorable practice. Now go find another liberal thread to dance around in. There’s about a thousand of them.

As a courtesy don’t waste time responding to my posts (or targeting any of my comments), I’ve placed you on ignore. It’s. It a free speech issue. It’s an annoyance issue.


1) See, by quoting God you are imposing your Christian values on women's reproductive rights. Case in point.

2) You are more than welcome to ignore me, that's your choice. But trying to censor my input into a discussion because you don't agree with in a public forum? :shakehead:


We believe a fetus is a living human....thus we are always going to apply the same law we all have to follow and not kill that person. Our opposition isn't against female reproductive Rights. Our opposition is against murder. Someone never has the right to choose to kill another human being. The key disagreement between pro-life and pro-choice is what they define the thing growing in a pregnant women as.
 
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Our opposition isn't against female reproductive Rights. Our opposition is against murder. Someone never has the right to choose to kill another human being.


Yet most of those who share you view support the death penalty, and the freedom for crazies to go buy gunz and shoot up schools.

pitbosflyer wrote:
The key disagreement between pro-life and pro-choice is what they define the thing growing in a pregnant women as.


Do you consider masturbation or menstruation to be murder, too?
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pitbosflyer wrote:
Our opposition isn't against female reproductive Rights. Our opposition is against murder. Someone never has the right to choose to kill another human being.


Yet most of those who share you view support the death penalty, and the freedom for crazies to go buy gunz and shoot up schools.

pitbosflyer wrote:
The key disagreement between pro-life and pro-choice is what they define the thing growing in a pregnant women as.


Do you consider masturbation or menstruation to be murder, too?


I am actually a person who is pro-life on the abortion issue but also anti death penalty. There is no need for the death penalty in our country, none. As for the latter point, menstruation is a natural function of the female body so no its not murder and masturbation is something completely different altogether.


One thing I am curious about on the abortion debate as I see a bunch of bills pass is why now? To me it has all the looks of timing so that pro life people can get a court ruling in their favor. I am not convinced that this is going to help the cause long term. Continuing to educate people is what is going to. Trying to time a court to me has the side effect of politicizing the court even more, and to me its sad we are even at this point. I think if the Warren court had realized this would happen, Roe would have been decided very differently.
 
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VTKillarney wrote:
Liberals think that no tax is a bad tax. They also love paternalism. Philadelphia’s soda tax is one example.

A study has been conducted on the effectiveness of the tax.

Here are the findings:
1) No significant reduction in calorie and sugar intake.
2) The tax does not lead to a shift in consumption towards healthier products.
3) The tax imposes a relatively larger financial burden on low income households that are less likely to engage in cross-shopping at stores outside of the city.
4) This dismal outcome is wildly at odds with earlier, optimistic economic forecasts about how such soda taxes would fare.

This appears to be yet another liberal policy that has resulted in quantifiable harm to the urban poor.

Study here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=3302335


The soda tax in the UK was a great success and drove people to lower calorie products more than expected.
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bgm wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
“RUSH LIMBAUGH: Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, what would happen to me if I said that a hijab triggers me and scares me? I couldn’t say that? Well, why not? I mean, if a “Make America Great Again” hat scares, why can’t a hijab? I guess I can’t.”


That's because the hijab is a religious garment.


Perhaps. But to many women it has also become a symbol of oppression and denial of women's rights.


No, it isn’t. Perhaps to some American women, but not globally.
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bgm wrote:
pitbosflyer wrote:
Our opposition isn't against female reproductive Rights. Our opposition is against murder. Someone never has the right to choose to kill another human being.


Yet most of those who share you view support the death penalty, and the freedom for crazies to go buy gunz and shoot up schools.

pitbosflyer wrote:
The key disagreement between pro-life and pro-choice is what they define the thing growing in a pregnant women as.


Do you consider masturbation or menstruation to be murder, too?


I agree the death penalty is a difficult one. Personally I'm against it. That being said the death penalty is punishment for committing horrible crimes. Its a little different than deciding to kill a baby because its inconveniencing you. Also I don't think any of us are happy when someone shoots up a school. Unfortunately banning guns doesn't get rid of evil people. That's why you see people just find other means to practice their evil. Like making bombs, or running people down with cars, or using knives. That being said I'm all for banning semi automatic high capacity weapons. I think you're painting all conservatives into one corner. We all don't supports the death penalty and being able to buy machine guns at the corner store.

As far as masturbation or menstruation....ahhhh no lol that would not be murder. Just as much as using birth control isn't murder. A sperm or egg is not a human life just the building blocks to making one. The difference is abortion terminates the life of a developing human being (fetus). Not to mention that many abortion proponents continue to stretch the acceptable time frame for that to happen to closer and closer to actual birth. We are now at a point where even babies that can survive outside the womb are considered not human and ok to kill by many on the left in the third trimester.
 
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BestWestern wrote:
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bgm wrote:

That's because the hijab is a religious garment.


Perhaps. But to many women it has also become a symbol of oppression and denial of women's rights.


No, it isn’t. Perhaps to some American women, but not globally.


Personally I would never wear a MAGA hat because I'm not a trump supporter. But I would say the same argument applies to the hat. Perhaps some people wear it as a proud symbol of repulsive racism and xenophobia. But that is not the opinion of the vast majority of trump supporters. There is a difference between not wanting open borders and being racist against immigrants.
 
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Re: US Politics: 2019 Right of Center Discussion Thread

Thu May 16, 2019 10:27 pm

Burqas and hijabs are seen by some as symbols of hate and oppression. Just like MAGA hast are seen by some as symbols of hate and oppression. Then, we hear the "but I wear a MAGA hat and I am not like that!" Well, either are all Muslims.
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Re: US Politics: 2019 Right of Center Discussion Thread

Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm

BestWestern wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
Liberals think that no tax is a bad tax. They also love paternalism. Philadelphia’s soda tax is one example.

A study has been conducted on the effectiveness of the tax.

Here are the findings:
1) No significant reduction in calorie and sugar intake.
2) The tax does not lead to a shift in consumption towards healthier products.
3) The tax imposes a relatively larger financial burden on low income households that are less likely to engage in cross-shopping at stores outside of the city.
4) This dismal outcome is wildly at odds with earlier, optimistic economic forecasts about how such soda taxes would fare.

This appears to be yet another liberal policy that has resulted in quantifiable harm to the urban poor.

Study here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=3302335


The soda tax in the UK was a great success and drove people to lower calorie products more than expected.


How about instead of "liberals believe all taxes are good" maybe it is "we have a health epidemic in this country and this is a good way to slow it down"?
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Re: US Politics: 2019 Right of Center Discussion Thread

Thu May 16, 2019 10:30 pm

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bgm wrote:
DL717 wrote:

The ignorance of the left with regard to Christian beliefs is astounding.


Reproductive rights. 'Nuff said.


All lives are equal in the eyes of God.

Eugenics is a deplorable practice. Now go find another liberal thread to dance around in. There’s about a thousand of them.

As a courtesy don’t waste time responding to my posts (or targeting any of my comments), I’ve placed you on ignore. It’s. It a free speech issue. It’s an annoyance issue.


Not all lives are equal in the eyes of the Republican party. Why? Republicans are supposed to be the party of Christianity. I have wanted to know this since the days of Reagan. If Republicans are the party of Christianity, why do they not act like it?
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Re: US Politics: 2019 Right of Center Discussion Thread

Fri May 17, 2019 1:06 am

A guy got on my Singapore to HKG flight last night with a frayed pornhub hat on. I’d say 99% of the flight thought ‘loser’
Greetings from Hong Kong.... a subsidiary of China Inc.
 
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Re: US Politics: 2019 Right of Center Discussion Thread

Fri May 17, 2019 8:58 am

Magog wrote:
Gotcha. It was confusing.


Apparently, right-of-center these days means meekly backing down without a peep nor a posting about “moving the goalposts.”

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