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Address on Resume?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:33 pm

What are your thoughts on including your personal address on your resume? Is it necessary or can it be left off if I don't feel comfortable disclosing where I live?
 
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Re: Address on Resume?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:35 pm

caliboy93 wrote:
What are your thoughts on including your personal address on your resume? Is it necessary or can it be left off if I don't feel comfortable disclosing where I live?

Like for a job?

You put that in there. If you are suggesting to an employer that you don’t trust them knowing your address then don’t work for them.

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Re: Address on Resume?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:35 pm

Curious as to why you don't feel comfortable disclosing where you live to a prospective employer. If you make it to the next round in the hiring process there's likely to be a background check in which case where you live will be a component of that. Even if there's no background check eventual employment would mean disclosing your personal address for tax purposes.

If you don't trust an organization with something that can often pretty easily be found online you probably shouldn't be applying for employment with that company.
 
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Re: Address on Resume?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:39 pm

You'll be including all sorts of other personal information, so why balk at your address? Realistically, they'll probably only pay more than cursory attention to it if it's in an extremely bad neighborhood or in an extremely good one. Leaving it off entirely, however, will look distinctly odd.
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Re: Address on Resume?

Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:46 am

As one who reviews resumes I do not care if an address is noted, but there must be a City listed. The address does nothing for the the resume, there are MANY other areas that are far more important that matter far more. The city is needed as I want to know you live in a certain proximity.

MUCH more important to me is a properly formatted and complete resume with no errors and gaps explained etc. You would not believe the crap I see. And nowadays with everything online via Craigslist/Indeed/GlassDoor/LinkedIn etc. the resume can get screwed up during the upload or people are lazy when entering them. I prefer a pdf format that doesn't use the site default formatting etc.

If you can you want to look at what is being sent out to potential employers and clean up anything that doesn't look good. And don't use "auto match and send" features if you are looking for a real job. Match things up, align your resume with the job posting if at all possible. The "shotgun" method is a poor way to go after a good job.

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Re: Address on Resume?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:49 pm

In this day and age, the address is not needed IMO. A potential employer isn't going to mail you a letter plus you add your address when you apply for the job in the first place. And address on a resume is wasted space that could be used for supplemental information to further show your qualifications.
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Re: Address on Resume?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:25 pm

flipdewaf wrote:
Like for a job?

You put that in there. If you are suggesting to an employer that you don’t trust them knowing your address then don’t work for them.

Fred

:checkmark: If you can't trust a potential employer with information (that they'll still look up themselves when screening), then why should they review your resume in the first place?

In an age of digital information, I agree that you won't receive a letter from a prospective employer telling you you've been rejected, but the fact that the address can help with a potential background check prior to the interview can increase your chances of even making it to an interview in the first place.

TWA772LR wrote:
And address on a resume is wasted space that could be used for supplemental information to further show your qualifications.
With so many formats, and not a universally accepted format, address can actually be outside of the margins (as a header or footer) or even a single line instead of multiple lines.

That is my biggest gripe with resumes. We can create a national (or international) standard for units; we can agree on a single way that languages can be written and spoken; we can even agree on citation formats...but we cannot agree on a couple of formats for a resume, shy of contact information at the top and references at the end (and even then, some resumes completely eliminate the references portion).
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Re: Address on Resume?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:53 pm

Some potential employers may reject some persons resumes by their address if a considerable distance away from their workplace. Some employers want their employees live in a reasonable distance if needed on short notice or just don't want people spending 2-3 hours of body sapping commuting each way each day. Where I work we have people that live 80+ miles away by train or bus. Throw in bad weather and some may not come into work some days.
 
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Re: Address on Resume?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:37 pm

For my current job my address was an advantage as I live close enough to walk to my workplace, so they can count on me being there everyday on time, and can also use me for things at night etc.

If I had lived the next town over, I'd have some hesitation putting the address on the resume. In fact I'm looking at real estate and that town is out of question even if real estate is cheap there (not unrelated), because that town has an extremely bad rap (crime and islamic extremism hotbed).
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Re: Address on Resume?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:51 pm

Address on Resume. Might as well. if you get the job, you will still have to fill it out 8 or 9 times more on all the necessary paperwork.
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Re: Address on Resume?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:09 pm

Tugger wrote:
As one who reviews resumes I do not care if an address is noted, but there must be a City listed. The address does nothing for the the resume, there are MANY other areas that are far more important that matter far more. The city is needed as I want to know you live in a certain proximity.

MUCH more important to me is a properly formatted and complete resume with no errors and gaps explained etc. You would not believe the crap I see. And nowadays with everything online via Craigslist/Indeed/GlassDoor/LinkedIn etc. the resume can get screwed up during the upload or people are lazy when entering them. I prefer a pdf format that doesn't use the site default formatting etc.

If you can you want to look at what is being sent out to potential employers and clean up anything that doesn't look good. And don't use "auto match and send" features if you are looking for a real job. Match things up, align your resume with the job posting if at all possible. The "shotgun" method is a poor way to go after a good job.

Tugg

I disagree with some of this.

I think it greatly depends on the position. If the position is, say, a warehouse shift supervisor looking for a high school education and some experience, yeah, I'd expect someone nearby. Probably would be concerned with someone living forever away or not a commutable distance. But, if it's recruiting for a director level position that pays well, I probably don't care because maybe the job can be done remotely or I'm looking for a candidate with 15+ years experience and an MBA, so it's perfectly reasonable to think candidates will be willing to relocate. You handle this with screening interviews, anyway. No sense in screening someone out based on the address on their resume alone for a position like that.

On another note, my biggest pet peeve with job hunting is the, "Upload your resume and then type all of that information out again in our system" thing. I understand why, but it's still awfully annoying.

Finally, I have long questioned the "targeted" resume approach. I'm not sure that modifying the resume really ends up doing that much unless you're submitting your resume for very different positions, rather than ones that have a common thread. And, while small sample size, I have a couple family members who have been very successful at getting their last jobs by shotgunning their resumes out. One's very late in her career with a huge wealth of experience while one is still fairly young in his career.
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That is my biggest gripe with resumes. We can create a national (or international) standard for units; we can agree on a single way that languages can be written and spoken; we can even agree on citation formats...but we cannot agree on a couple of formats for a resume, shy of contact information at the top and references at the end (and even then, some resumes completely eliminate the references portion).

To me, references actually on a resume are a huge waste. Those aren't relevant up front. They are a later-in-the-process thing.
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Re: Address on Resume?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:34 pm

I never put addresses on resumes these days (what’s the purpose?), but make sure the right cell phone # and proper email address is clearly visible. And make sure it’s an “acceptable” benign email and not Pussygrabber2020!!!
 
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Re: Address on Resume?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:40 pm

Tugger wrote:
As one who reviews resumes I do not care if an address is noted, but there must be a City listed. The address does nothing for the the resume, there are MANY other areas that are far more important that matter far more. The city is needed as I want to know you live in a certain proximity.

That's what I have on my resume, at the advice of the outplacement agency when I was laid off. City, State, ZIP, along with phone and e-mail address.
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Re: Address on Resume?

Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:10 am

johnboy wrote:
And make sure it’s an “acceptable” benign email and not Pussygrabber2020!!!

What?! But I thought scrotum5000*, y0urb4byg1rl, and gangztahcriminal32 let your personality shine through...

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Re: Address on Resume?

Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:37 pm

If you're so concerned about leaving a personal address, get a PMB and use that address. They look like apartment addresses and you stand out less than skipping on the address altogether.
 
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Re: Address on Resume?

Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:59 pm

cjg225 wrote:
I disagree with some of this.

I think it greatly depends on the position. If the position is, say, a warehouse shift supervisor looking for a high school education and some experience, yeah, I'd expect someone nearby. Probably would be concerned with someone living forever away or not a commutable distance. But, if it's recruiting for a director level position that pays well, I probably don't care because maybe the job can be done remotely or I'm looking for a candidate with 15+ years experience and an MBA, so it's perfectly reasonable to think candidates will be willing to relocate. You handle this with screening interviews, anyway. No sense in screening someone out based on the address on their resume alone for a position like that.

On another note, my biggest pet peeve with job hunting is the, "Upload your resume and then type all of that information out again in our system" thing. I understand why, but it's still awfully annoying.

Finally, I have long questioned the "targeted" resume approach. I'm not sure that modifying the resume really ends up doing that much unless you're submitting your resume for very different positions, rather than ones that have a common thread. And, while small sample size, I have a couple family members who have been very successful at getting their last jobs by shotgunning their resumes out. One's very late in her career with a huge wealth of experience while one is still fairly young in his career.

To me, references actually on a resume are a huge waste. Those aren't relevant up front. They are a later-in-the-process thing.


I agree with all of this. Tailoring resumes is kind of a silly thing to me. Tailor it how? You shouldn't have to tailor it at all if you're looking for something within the same field. Now if you're looking for something outside of your field, I can see that maybe you would want to highlight some of your customer interactions as a manufacturing manager on a shop floor when applying for a sales position. But, you likely already put that on your resume as part of your experience anyways.

To me resumes are the biggest farce ever. I can tell pretty quickly if someone is Bullsh*tting me on a resume or if they've fluffed it up. And it's even more obvious in the interview if they made it that far. Use industry buzzwords but be concise. I don't need to see that you "Interfaced daily with customers providing immediate service for a variety of technical issues." You're a customer support representative. That's implied, don't waste my time forcing me to read it again.

I remember one time in college that the recruiters for a big aerospace company used to tell me to basically copy the buzzwords tagged in the online req and paste it to the bottom of my resume so that hiring managers, when they searched the terms they needed, my resume would pop up all the relevant keywords as a hit.

Pretty frustrating for a college kid when they tell you "sorry we're not collecting resumes, just apply online."
 
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Re: Address on Resume?

Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:34 pm

trpmb6 wrote:
cjg225 wrote:
I disagree with some of this.

I think it greatly depends on the position. If the position is, say, a warehouse shift supervisor looking for a high school education and some experience, yeah, I'd expect someone nearby. Probably would be concerned with someone living forever away or not a commutable distance. But, if it's recruiting for a director level position that pays well, I probably don't care because maybe the job can be done remotely or I'm looking for a candidate with 15+ years experience and an MBA, so it's perfectly reasonable to think candidates will be willing to relocate. You handle this with screening interviews, anyway. No sense in screening someone out based on the address on their resume alone for a position like that.

On another note, my biggest pet peeve with job hunting is the, "Upload your resume and then type all of that information out again in our system" thing. I understand why, but it's still awfully annoying.

Finally, I have long questioned the "targeted" resume approach. I'm not sure that modifying the resume really ends up doing that much unless you're submitting your resume for very different positions, rather than ones that have a common thread. And, while small sample size, I have a couple family members who have been very successful at getting their last jobs by shotgunning their resumes out. One's very late in her career with a huge wealth of experience while one is still fairly young in his career.

To me, references actually on a resume are a huge waste. Those aren't relevant up front. They are a later-in-the-process thing.


I agree with all of this. Tailoring resumes is kind of a silly thing to me. Tailor it how? You shouldn't have to tailor it at all if you're looking for something within the same field. Now if you're looking for something outside of your field, I can see that maybe you would want to highlight some of your customer interactions as a manufacturing manager on a shop floor when applying for a sales position. But, you likely already put that on your resume as part of your experience anyways.

To me resumes are the biggest farce ever. I can tell pretty quickly if someone is Bullsh*tting me on a resume or if they've fluffed it up. And it's even more obvious in the interview if they made it that far. Use industry buzzwords but be concise. I don't need to see that you "Interfaced daily with customers providing immediate service for a variety of technical issues." You're a customer support representative. That's implied, don't waste my time forcing me to read it again.

I remember one time in college that the recruiters for a big aerospace company used to tell me to basically copy the buzzwords tagged in the online req and paste it to the bottom of my resume so that hiring managers, when they searched the terms they needed, my resume would pop up all the relevant keywords as a hit.

Pretty frustrating for a college kid when they tell you "sorry we're not collecting resumes, just apply online."



My favorite was an interview where the resume looked great. When I quizzed him on it, he knew nothing about what was going on. Anything the kid had attended a meeting for, even if he knew nothing about what was going on, was on that resume. It wasted our time, and I was done with the interview in 15 minutes. When I went to talk to the hiring manager for my input , he just said to me , sorry for wasting your time as he had interviewed the guy before me. We told the other interviewers to not attend and then politely escorted the candidate from the premise.

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Re: Address on Resume?

Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:42 pm

Yes... I had to double check my resume templates, but my address is on my resume, my cover letter template, oh and it is in the internal system for any employer that I am applying to as well.

As for the whole tailored vs generic resume thing. One of the best bits of advice I got is that you need to make it as easy as possible for the people screening to determine whether or not you meet their requirements for the position. When they are going through dozens or hundreds of applicants you want to make sure they can easily say yes lets bring this person in for an interview. Since I work within a specific industry/field my resume is tailored towards that and I think any screening committee would have an easy time. If I was looking for work outside my current area I'd certainly tailor the resume (and cover letter) to suit what people in that industry are looking for. The cover letter is really where I focus my efforts anyways.
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Re: Address on Resume?

Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:30 am

I'll be honest, I haven't really "interviewed" for a new position in a long time. I'm usually contacted by other companies at this point through word of mouth or recruiters who I've worked with in the past. I keep my resume up to date, but I don't ever get any negative feedback so beats me if I'm doing anything wrong at this point.

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