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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:45 pm

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What used to be behaviors that one wouldn't make a big deal of even just a few years ago are unacceptable today. Biden is despised by the left-wing base of the Democrat Party for a number of other mainly economic reasons and his failure to keep Clarence Thomas off the US Supreme Court, but his touching women is just one of them that can be played easiest right now against him.


Treating women like objects? Isn't that what Anita Hill was about? We all know that is what #metoo is about.

And, tell us all, when was the Democrat party formed? Who was the last presidential nominee from the Democrat party?

I love how the right is crying and whining and carrying on about how creepy and misogynist Biden is. Demanding he not run because he smelled a woman's hair. Maybe if he goes on tape bragging about chasing women around and grabbing them, Biden will be elected in a landslide!


Just like you guys were crying on whining about Kavenaugh and that he was a rapist.. I find both the accusers of Biden and Kavenaugh extremely suspect in timing alone only coming forward when it appears they can get some publicity and possibly money out of it.. Biden has always been a touchy feely guy and he is is an equal opportunity touchy guy he does it to men and women. I think the Democratic party would do itself a favor by nominating a moderate in the end rather than going down the progressive/identity politics route. One of Biden's issues now is he is pretty old as is Sanders so will be interesting to see where this goes.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:31 pm

Yeah. None of it matters at Trump will win anyway.

MAGA now MAGA tomorrow and MAGA forever.

So says the party of Bill rapist Clinton, Keith Ellison.
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:41 pm

I'll just leave this here.

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An equal opportunity toucher to be sure.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:35 am

stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
What used to be behaviors that one wouldn't make a big deal of even just a few years ago are unacceptable today. Biden is despised by the left-wing base of the Democrat Party for a number of other mainly economic reasons and his failure to keep Clarence Thomas off the US Supreme Court, but his touching women is just one of them that can be played easiest right now against him.


Treating women like objects? Isn't that what Anita Hill was about? We all know that is what #metoo is about.

And, tell us all, when was the Democrat party formed? Who was the last presidential nominee from the Democrat party?

I love how the right is crying and whining and carrying on about how creepy and misogynist Biden is. Demanding he not run because he smelled a woman's hair. Maybe if he goes on tape bragging about chasing women around and grabbing them, Biden will be elected in a landslide!


Just like you guys were crying on whining about Kavenaugh and that he was a rapist.. I find both the accusers of Biden and Kavenaugh extremely suspect in timing alone only coming forward when it appears they can get some publicity and possibly money out of it.. Biden has always been a touchy feely guy and he is is an equal opportunity touchy guy he does it to men and women. I think the Democratic party would do itself a favor by nominating a moderate in the end rather than going down the progressive/identity politics route. One of Biden's issues now is he is pretty old as is Sanders so will be interesting to see where this goes.


You believe all the women who accuse Biden and Franken and Clinton and demand they be heard and believed but insist that every woman who accused Kavanaugh and the occupant of the White House are opportunists and lying.
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:25 am

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Bill rapist Clinton, .



Who did Bill Clinton rape?
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:41 am

Redd wrote:
texdravid wrote:
Bill rapist Clinton, .



Who did Bill Clinton rape?


Juanita Broaddrick

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-4w895hS7Y?t=4m50s

Go to 4:50.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:11 am

I was glad to see Tucker on Fox News defend Joe Biden tonight at the beginning of his show. His female guest warns of the dire consequences this PC mess the left has created for themselves and all of us, and how we are now at a tipping point and what’s next.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NvAq0h8b69A
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:18 am

seb146 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:

Treating women like objects? Isn't that what Anita Hill was about? We all know that is what #metoo is about.

And, tell us all, when was the Democrat party formed? Who was the last presidential nominee from the Democrat party?

I love how the right is crying and whining and carrying on about how creepy and misogynist Biden is. Demanding he not run because he smelled a woman's hair. Maybe if he goes on tape bragging about chasing women around and grabbing them, Biden will be elected in a landslide!


Just like you guys were crying on whining about Kavenaugh and that he was a rapist.. I find both the accusers of Biden and Kavenaugh extremely suspect in timing alone only coming forward when it appears they can get some publicity and possibly money out of it.. Biden has always been a touchy feely guy and he is is an equal opportunity touchy guy he does it to men and women. I think the Democratic party would do itself a favor by nominating a moderate in the end rather than going down the progressive/identity politics route. One of Biden's issues now is he is pretty old as is Sanders so will be interesting to see where this goes.


You believe all the women who accuse Biden and Franken and Clinton and demand they be heard and believed but insist that every woman who accused Kavanaugh and the occupant of the White House are opportunists and lying.


Did you even read what I just said? I said I find Biden's accusers timing is suspect? Anyway I find at least in the case of Biden and Franken that these two if anything the most they did was maybe making someone uncomfortable not what should rise to the level of sexual assault. Clinton on the other hand most definitely used his power and influence to get sexual favors.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:34 pm

There are several montage videos floating around. I'll leave this one from Jon Stewart. From 2015.

They called it "The Audacity of Grope"

www.cc.com/video-clips/yfmksi/the-daily ... y-of-grope

Watch all of it.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:09 pm

trpmb6 wrote:
There are several montage videos floating around. I'll leave this one from Jon Stewart. From 2015.

They called it "The Audacity of Grope"

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yfmksi/th ... y-of-grope

Watch all of it.


No tweetstorm furious that they were making fun of him. It is still interesting to me how the same people bragging about the current occupant of the White House hiring hookers are outraged over Biden touching women. We knew this about Biden as far back as 2014, right? Why has this not been a thing before now?
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:07 pm

seb146 wrote:
trpmb6 wrote:
There are several montage videos floating around. I'll leave this one from Jon Stewart. From 2015.

They called it "The Audacity of Grope"

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yfmksi/th ... y-of-grope

Watch all of it.


No tweetstorm furious that they were making fun of him. It is still interesting to me how the same people bragging about the current occupant of the White House hiring hookers are outraged over Biden touching women. We knew this about Biden as far back as 2014, right? Why has this not been a thing before now?


Yeah I don't know. I'm more creeped out by some of Biden's interactions with children. They're just... weird and I wouldn't want anyone touching my kids in such a manner.

I do subscribe to the uncle Joe mentality, but that doesn't necessarily make it ok either. It could just be that we live in different times (Biden sort of alluded to this in his video he released).

I would point out that hiring h00kers is slightly different than Biden's unwanted touching, but someone will just come back with, well what about Trump walking in on the miss american contestants.. or this or that. And yes, we should (and have) conversations about Trump's history. But so too should we talk about Biden's (and anyone else where evidence exists) issues. We don't live in a vacuum and it's fair to draw comparisons. But what isn't fair for anyone here, myself included is to say it's ok for X to behave this way because Y behaved that way.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:29 pm

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trpmb6 wrote:
No tweetstorm furious that they were making fun of him. It is still interesting to me how the same people bragging about the current occupant of the White House hiring hookers are outraged over Biden touching women. We knew this about Biden as far back as 2014, right? Why has this not been a thing before now?

The accusers are all Democrats and it is almost exclusively Democrats making a big deal of it because now being an old white man is a sin and how dare he even think of stealing the nomination from the diversity competition the Democrats already have lined up. (Bernie might get a pass since he is a socialist). Democrats want the gay guy, the black women, the Latino, or the Native American senator, Biden brings nothing to the table and the Democrats are almost exclusively concerned with idenity politics. As mentioned above, you even have Fox News and Tucker defending Joe Biden.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:11 pm

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seb146 wrote:
trpmb6 wrote:
No tweetstorm furious that they were making fun of him. It is still interesting to me how the same people bragging about the current occupant of the White House hiring hookers are outraged over Biden touching women. We knew this about Biden as far back as 2014, right? Why has this not been a thing before now?

The accusers are all Democrats and it is almost exclusively Democrats making a big deal of it because now being an old white man is a sin and how dare he even think of stealing the nomination from the diversity competition the Democrats already have lined up. (Bernie might get a pass since he is a socialist). Democrats want the gay guy, the black women, the Latino, or the Native American senator, Biden brings nothing to the table and the Democrats are almost exclusively concerned with idenity politics. As mentioned above, you even have Fox News and Tucker defending Joe Biden.


Maybe because Democrats understand and accept that Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Trans, Women, Muslims, Christians, Heteros, Whites, Men are ALL American. Maybe Democrats want to represent ALL Americans, not just a small slice of Americans? Maybe because Democrats want to look forward and not back?

Fox and Tucker maybe defend Biden because look who they helped get into the White House? They hate AOC, they hate Abrahams, they hate Beto, they hate Omar, they hate Obama.....
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:43 am

seb146 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
seb146 wrote:

The accusers are all Democrats and it is almost exclusively Democrats making a big deal of it because now being an old white man is a sin and how dare he even think of stealing the nomination from the diversity competition the Democrats already have lined up. (Bernie might get a pass since he is a socialist). Democrats want the gay guy, the black women, the Latino, or the Native American senator, Biden brings nothing to the table and the Democrats are almost exclusively concerned with idenity politics. As mentioned above, you even have Fox News and Tucker defending Joe Biden.


Maybe because Democrats understand and accept that Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Trans, Women, Muslims, Christians, Heteros, Whites, Men are ALL American. Maybe Democrats want to represent ALL Americans, not just a small slice of Americans? Maybe because Democrats want to look forward and not back?

Fox and Tucker maybe defend Biden because look who they helped get into the White House? They hate AOC, they hate Abrahams, they hate Beto, they hate Omar, they hate Obama.....


And how did Obama work out for the black man? More on welfare after he left office than before he started, the income gap widened, etc. The rich white billionaire elevates them more than any other president, record low unemployment for black Americans, and passes massive prison reform which disproportionately helps black people.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:45 am

afcjets wrote:
seb146 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
The accusers are all Democrats and it is almost exclusively Democrats making a big deal of it because now being an old white man is a sin and how dare he even think of stealing the nomination from the diversity competition the Democrats already have lined up. (Bernie might get a pass since he is a socialist). Democrats want the gay guy, the black women, the Latino, or the Native American senator, Biden brings nothing to the table and the Democrats are almost exclusively concerned with idenity politics. As mentioned above, you even have Fox News and Tucker defending Joe Biden.


Maybe because Democrats understand and accept that Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Trans, Women, Muslims, Christians, Heteros, Whites, Men are ALL American. Maybe Democrats want to represent ALL Americans, not just a small slice of Americans? Maybe because Democrats want to look forward and not back?

Fox and Tucker maybe defend Biden because look who they helped get into the White House? They hate AOC, they hate Abrahams, they hate Beto, they hate Omar, they hate Obama.....


And how did Obama work out for the black man? More on welfare after he left office than before he started, the income gap widened, etc. The rich white billionaire elevates them more than any other president, record low unemployment for black Americans, and passes massive prison reform which disproportionately helps black people.


Because of right wing media like Fox and Sinclair and Washington Times and Bloomberg, Obama was worse for every non-White, non-Christian, non-hetero. It gave fodder for the media to spread hate. Democrats passed ACA and Republicans have done everything they could since they gained control of Congress to repeal ACA. No replacement. Simply repeal. Since Republicans took control of Congress, they have been passing law after law to restrict Democrats and minorities. Give money and freedom to the very, very wealthy and everyone else will prosper. It has not happened, but keep telling us that and enough people will believe it and defend it.
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:47 pm

seb146 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
seb146 wrote:

The accusers are all Democrats and it is almost exclusively Democrats making a big deal of it because now being an old white man is a sin and how dare he even think of stealing the nomination from the diversity competition the Democrats already have lined up. (Bernie might get a pass since he is a socialist). Democrats want the gay guy, the black women, the Latino, or the Native American senator, Biden brings nothing to the table and the Democrats are almost exclusively concerned with idenity politics. As mentioned above, you even have Fox News and Tucker defending Joe Biden.


Maybe because Democrats understand and accept that Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Trans, Women, Muslims, Christians, Heteros, Whites, Men are ALL American. Maybe Democrats want to represent ALL Americans, not just a small slice of Americans? Maybe because Democrats want to look forward and not back?

Fox and Tucker maybe defend Biden because look who they helped get into the White House? They hate AOC, they hate Abrahams, they hate Beto, they hate Omar, they hate Obama.....


The only thing Democrats care about is the vote. Same as the Republicans but the Democrats are more desperate and pandering to the fringe to get it. Politicians are scumbags all of them they are self serving and all about staying in power. We need to take the money and lobbyists out of politics until we do there is really no reason to vote.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:57 pm

stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
The accusers are all Democrats and it is almost exclusively Democrats making a big deal of it because now being an old white man is a sin and how dare he even think of stealing the nomination from the diversity competition the Democrats already have lined up. (Bernie might get a pass since he is a socialist). Democrats want the gay guy, the black women, the Latino, or the Native American senator, Biden brings nothing to the table and the Democrats are almost exclusively concerned with idenity politics. As mentioned above, you even have Fox News and Tucker defending Joe Biden.


Maybe because Democrats understand and accept that Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Trans, Women, Muslims, Christians, Heteros, Whites, Men are ALL American. Maybe Democrats want to represent ALL Americans, not just a small slice of Americans? Maybe because Democrats want to look forward and not back?

Fox and Tucker maybe defend Biden because look who they helped get into the White House? They hate AOC, they hate Abrahams, they hate Beto, they hate Omar, they hate Obama.....


The only thing Democrats care about is the vote. Same as the Republicans but the Democrats are more desperate and pandering to the fringe to get it. Politicians are scumbags all of them they are self serving and all about staying in power. We need to take the money and lobbyists out of politics until we do there is really no reason to vote.


The only way I can rationalize that you think Democrats are more pandering to the fringe than Republicans is because you are a tad bit blind to the Republican fringe, perhaps because you consider your views “normal.”

Let’s just say the “fringe” for Republicans is the “new normal.”
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:39 pm

stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
The accusers are all Democrats and it is almost exclusively Democrats making a big deal of it because now being an old white man is a sin and how dare he even think of stealing the nomination from the diversity competition the Democrats already have lined up. (Bernie might get a pass since he is a socialist). Democrats want the gay guy, the black women, the Latino, or the Native American senator, Biden brings nothing to the table and the Democrats are almost exclusively concerned with idenity politics. As mentioned above, you even have Fox News and Tucker defending Joe Biden.


Maybe because Democrats understand and accept that Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Trans, Women, Muslims, Christians, Heteros, Whites, Men are ALL American. Maybe Democrats want to represent ALL Americans, not just a small slice of Americans? Maybe because Democrats want to look forward and not back?

Fox and Tucker maybe defend Biden because look who they helped get into the White House? They hate AOC, they hate Abrahams, they hate Beto, they hate Omar, they hate Obama.....


The only thing Democrats care about is the vote. Same as the Republicans but the Democrats are more desperate and pandering to the fringe to get it. Politicians are scumbags all of them they are self serving and all about staying in power. We need to take the money and lobbyists out of politics until we do there is really no reason to vote.


Both sides do not do it so stop saying that. I know it is indoctrinated in Republicans. A knee-jerk reaction. It may sound good to Republicans, but it is not true. All that tells us is that you can not be outraged when a Democrat steals votes, lies, cheats on his wife, balloons the deficit, hides his tax returns, has secret meetings with another foreign leader, praises dictators, etc. You have zero right to be outraged when a Democrat does that because, as you Republicans LOVE to point out ad nauseum "both sides do it".

Democrats are "pandering" to the broadest base they possibly can. Whites, Blacks, Latinos, women, LGBTQ, Christians, Muslims, Athiests. Republicans pander to gun nuts and White Christians by going on and on about how Latinos, Blacks, Muslims, Athiests, LGBTQ are destroying America.

But, yeah, both sides do it so Republicans get a pass and we must stop Democrats.
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:15 pm

seb146 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:

Maybe because Democrats understand and accept that Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Trans, Women, Muslims, Christians, Heteros, Whites, Men are ALL American. Maybe Democrats want to represent ALL Americans, not just a small slice of Americans? Maybe because Democrats want to look forward and not back?

Fox and Tucker maybe defend Biden because look who they helped get into the White House? They hate AOC, they hate Abrahams, they hate Beto, they hate Omar, they hate Obama.....


The only thing Democrats care about is the vote. Same as the Republicans but the Democrats are more desperate and pandering to the fringe to get it. Politicians are scumbags all of them they are self serving and all about staying in power. We need to take the money and lobbyists out of politics until we do there is really no reason to vote.


Both sides do not do it so stop saying that. I know it is indoctrinated in Republicans. A knee-jerk reaction. It may sound good to Republicans, but it is not true. All that tells us is that you can not be outraged when a Democrat steals votes, lies, cheats on his wife, balloons the deficit, hides his tax returns, has secret meetings with another foreign leader, praises dictators, etc. You have zero right to be outraged when a Democrat does that because, as you Republicans LOVE to point out ad nauseum "both sides do it".

Democrats are "pandering" to the broadest base they possibly can. Whites, Blacks, Latinos, women, LGBTQ, Christians, Muslims, Athiests. Republicans pander to gun nuts and White Christians by going on and on about how Latinos, Blacks, Muslims, Athiests, LGBTQ are destroying America.

But, yeah, both sides do it so Republicans get a pass and we must stop Democrats.


Both sides absolutely do it and you know it.. I am not giving Republicans a pass if you read my previous post I said as long as lobbying and the insane money is in politics no one will get a fair shake especially working middle class voters who get it from both sides.
 
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On the Sunday shows, they all mentioned Joe Biden and "women." But I did not catch any one of them referring to how Joe interacted with "children." They're all on the same "talking page" of "women." The issue with children doesn't exist with them.
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:05 am

stratosphere wrote:
seb146 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:

The only thing Democrats care about is the vote. Same as the Republicans but the Democrats are more desperate and pandering to the fringe to get it. Politicians are scumbags all of them they are self serving and all about staying in power. We need to take the money and lobbyists out of politics until we do there is really no reason to vote.


Both sides do not do it so stop saying that. I know it is indoctrinated in Republicans. A knee-jerk reaction. It may sound good to Republicans, but it is not true. All that tells us is that you can not be outraged when a Democrat steals votes, lies, cheats on his wife, balloons the deficit, hides his tax returns, has secret meetings with another foreign leader, praises dictators, etc. You have zero right to be outraged when a Democrat does that because, as you Republicans LOVE to point out ad nauseum "both sides do it".

Democrats are "pandering" to the broadest base they possibly can. Whites, Blacks, Latinos, women, LGBTQ, Christians, Muslims, Athiests. Republicans pander to gun nuts and White Christians by going on and on about how Latinos, Blacks, Muslims, Athiests, LGBTQ are destroying America.

But, yeah, both sides do it so Republicans get a pass and we must stop Democrats.


Both sides absolutely do it and you know it.. I am not giving Republicans a pass if you read my previous post I said as long as lobbying and the insane money is in politics no one will get a fair shake especially working middle class voters who get it from both sides.


Democrats and progressives and "liberals" have been calling for money to be out of politics for years. When Mitt Romney crowed "Corporations are people, my friend!" the right embraced that. They poured more and more money into politics. Who are the biggest political donors? The Walton family, Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adleson, oil executives, pharma executives. All to buy politicians to get what they want and screw working people. This is why unions are so hated.

But that is for a different thread.

Let's get back to Joe Biden. Because, you know, both sides do it. Republicans were shown over and over and over and over again what kind of man the occupant of the White House is. How he treats women. What he thinks of them. Republicans are now demanding Joe Biden leave the race because of his treatment of women and the "both sides do it" crowd is chiming in.

If that is something you truly believe, this is not an issue at all and, in fact, should shore up support for him from white Christian men. Both sides do it.

Or, maybe you would like to explain the rules of "both sides do it" so Democrats can treat people like dirt and get away with it.
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:59 pm

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The destroy Biden campaign is on!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/31/politics ... index.html


The DNC is obviously trying to get Biden to reconsider running. He leads most if not all polls and from where I sit the media wants Harris or Beto. It's interesting because without Biden Trump should win a second term easily. Going to be interesting to see if this persuades Biden not to run because if he does he is going all the way. He won't step aside.

The plot thickens!



More hypocrisy from the right. We have a president who’s a proven predator. The GOP also supported an accused pedophile. If the accused is a democrat, republicans demand resignation. Just more partisan nonsense.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:35 pm

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NIKV69 wrote:
The destroy Biden campaign is on!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/31/politics ... index.html


The DNC is obviously trying to get Biden to reconsider running. He leads most if not all polls and from where I sit the media wants Harris or Beto. It's interesting because without Biden Trump should win a second term easily. Going to be interesting to see if this persuades Biden not to run because if he does he is going all the way. He won't step aside.

The plot thickens!



More hypocrisy from the right. We have a president who’s a proven predator. The GOP also supported an accused pedophile. If the accused is a democrat, republicans demand resignation. Just more partisan nonsense.


To be fair, this has been democrats accusing Biden. NikV69 has been posting regularly on this forum how he wants Biden to be the eventual Democrat nominee.


Democrats and progressives and "liberals" have been calling for money to be out of politics for years. When Mitt Romney crowed "Corporations are people, my friend!" the right embraced that. They poured more and more money into politics. Who are the biggest political donors? The Walton family, Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adleson, oil executives, pharma executives. All to buy politicians to get what they want and screw working people. This is why unions are so hated.


You can claim this, but the last presidential election says the opposite.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/grap ... ndraising/

Clinton and her super-PACs raised a total of $1.2 billion, less than President Barack Obama raised in 2012. Her sophisticated fundraising operation included a small army of wealthy donors who wrote seven-figure checks, hundreds of bundlers who raised $100,000 or more from their own networks, and a small-dollar donor operation modeled on the one used by Obama in 2012. She spent heavily on television advertising and her get-out-the-vote operation, but in the end, her fundraising edge wasn't enough to overcome Trump's ability to dominate headlines and the airwaves.


On your list, the only one to make it was Adleson. Beneath him every Trump donor contributed much less than the top Clinton donors.

The five biggest donors to Clinton combined contributed more to elect her president than Trump spent on his own campaign. Some of Trump's biggest donors didn't give until late in the campaign.


Maybe you can call Trump an anomaly for not attracting money in any fashion. But one thing is certain - Money doesn't buy you an office. Trump de facto proved that.
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:09 pm

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Maybe you can call Trump an anomaly for not attracting money in any fashion. But one thing is certain - Money doesn't buy you an office. Trump de facto proved that.


That's right. Pathological lying and race-baiting is what won.
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:33 pm

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Maybe you can call Trump an anomaly for not attracting money in any fashion. But one thing is certain - Money doesn't buy you an office. Trump de facto proved that.


That's right. Pathological lying and race-baiting is what won.

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Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:13 pm

Doesn't change the original point.
 
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:15 pm

Lucy Flores is a known Bernie Sanders political operative. She may be acting without supreme direction, but that does not change her intentions.
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:19 pm

Everyone has boundaries. Politicians ignore those boundaries. Some more than others. When I was in high school, my English teacher experimented on all of us. He found our space bubble. Mine has shrank over the years. Maybe this woman has a definite space bubble and how dare anyone breech that line. Or maybe she is working for Sanders. Or maybe she wants her 15 minutes. But, since "both sides do it" as the right loves to say, this is a non issue and should never have been brought up.
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Re: Lucy Flores says Biden acted inappropriately

Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:16 pm

seb146 wrote:
Everyone has boundaries. Politicians ignore those boundaries. Some more than others. When I was in high school, my English teacher experimented on all of us. He found our space bubble. Mine has shrank over the years. Maybe this woman has a definite space bubble and how dare anyone breech that line. Or maybe she is working for Sanders. Or maybe she wants her 15 minutes. But, since "both sides do it" as the right loves to say, this is a non issue and should never have been brought up.


I think what lends itself to being a political hit job is that "uncle" Joe's behavior is nothing new. As I linked earlier, the Daily Show (Jon Stewart and Samantha Bee of all people) mocked Biden for his behaviors then. And everybody laughed it off. As someone on the right, I have no problem saying that, while in a few of the cases I find what Joe did (specifically with children) to be creepy / border line inappropriate, I don't find, at least with the adults, it to be overtly sexual or demeaning in nature. If anything, Joe is just guilty of being a bit over affectionate.

I do think Biden made a misstep though in his first public appearance after the accusations, he came on stage and had a bro hug type moment and said to everyone on the mic "it's ok he said I could touch him" (paraphrasing) and he and the crowd laughed it off. It's not really something to laugh about, but that's Biden's personality and he has a way of pulling that stuff off.

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