So you actually didn't say that " other member of the WTO (notably including the EU again
, but also the US who currently want to sabotage the WTO wherever possible)"
so its all right for the EU to undermine international treaties as long as its in your favour, but once the UK leaves it cannot do as it sees fit legally under those same treaties, and hence we are being hostile
My post is quite clear: The EU is a veto-wielding member of the WTO. And so is the USA which currently under Trump tries to undermine and weaken the very WTO at whose mercy Brexit hardliners want to throw the UK's future.
Mmmmm………….Seems to me you are talking about A50 Section 2 (future relationship)
The political declaration is as far as that is concerned and you are completely mistaken in trying to imply anything else which simply isn't there.
Seems more like that we are not being so gullible about what is a good deal and what is a bad deal for the UK, even a majority remain parliament can see that one
is a shitty deal for the UK any way you turn it, and the WA merely exposes some of the most marginal aspects of that turd which actually aren't all that problematic, all the made-up ERG hissy fits notwithstanding.
It will get really
juicy only when future relationships will be on the table – and the one with the EU will actually be one of the less horrific negotiations for the UK. The one with the USA will be much, much worse as you've seen from the american announcements on the coming negotiations!
President Trump positioned only a few days ago that the NHS was fair game when it comes to doing a trade deal with the US, he soon got the message PDQ that wasn't the case, just like the EU will do about any future negotiations between EU/UK
There were some feeble denials of trapped brexiters in the UK, but the USA will absolutely
insist on the NHS and agricultural standards being on the chopping block or they simply won't give you a deal. And freshly stripped of all existing EU/US agreements and alone in the world, the UK would have no leverage and would just have to fold, and that is the only way Trump knows how to "negotiate" and he'll exploit that opportunity to the max.
Did you actually wonder why the EU and the USA had just a bunch of separate treaties (which the UK will all lose with Brexit even so!) and no overarching FTA? Those have been some of the reason why!
The difference is that the USA is very much attracted to access to the EU Single Market and it will make concessions to get it. With the UK, well, not so much
– the UK has no leverage and will have to fold or stay outside the door while the EU keeps trading at much better terms through the separate agreements which the UK will have thrown away.
If they don't care about the WA why would they make them a precondition,
As I said: The other countries don't care about the WA, they care about the UK's future relationship with the EU which the UK just can't get
unless the WA has been agreed and ratified! (And that is just as true after a no-deal Brexit
as it is now with the WA still on the table for a semi-orderly Brexit complete with transition period.)
but do tell me what standing treaty have we defaulted on?
Boris is again shaking the paper maché club of defaulting on the financial obligations from the WA, and if that should in fact become the UK's official position, that would crash the UK's credit rating through the floor and take most of the UK's prospects of ever gaining any new trade deals with it.
It's an extraordinarily dumb ploy aimed at the most blinkered followers of Brexit and with near-zero real life survival chances. Grandstanding at its worst, but that's just Boris
You seem to think that the UK is operating in a vacuum, if and when No-Deal happens, nations already trading with the UK will not want to see any disruptions as that has a flow on effect within their own economies, that's why they don't give two stuffs about the WA as it will not directly affect them with mutual recognition agreements until formal agreements are put in place.
Almost all other countries have much more valuable trade relations with the EU than with the UK specifically and they simply won't
offer any deals to the UK which could fall apart when the UK eventually gets around to a deal with the EU or – worse! – which could jeopardize their own trade relations with the EU.
The UK will see warm handshakes and friendly words all around, but no actual trade offers before it will have settled its accounts with the EU and until it has its future relations with the EU firmed up at least provisionally.
No I don't see every titbit of the news, but thanks for the link, but withholding the divorce bill in the case of no deal has been around for a while, as no binding agreement is in place stopping payment would be one of the first cab off the rank on the to-do list. not really news to me
Yeah, that particular piece of insanity has been around for a bit, but now the difference is that it's closing in on No.10, and that would have actual repercussions for the first time.