Reinhardt wrote:noviorbis77 wrote:A101 wrote:
Looking very promising, but I’ll wait till the final wash up.
We are looking at around 60% for the leave parties v 40% remain.
No you're not. If you are intepreting the results as a vote on whether to leave or stay, then you must include the SNP + NI as the UK as a whole voted to stay or leave not England. In the context or comparing remainers vs brexiteers you have to use the votes of the parties that represents those views together, not just one party.
MEPs voted in:
If you then include Labour (like it or not, they will now back a peoples vote and vast majority of Labour MPs are remainers)
BXT = 29
CON = 4 (assuming all are leave, but they aren't)
So remainers win more seats.
If you do it percentages
= 37 %
Add LAB (14.1%)
BXT = 31.6%
CON = 9.1%
If you pull out LAB from remain then you must pull out CON from leave.
It's not black and white. One thing is for certain, the only thing that happened is that BXT party took over UKIPs share of the vote and a few more % on top. There is still no mandate at all for a hard brexit. These figures still show a complete split in the vote, and therefore the only democratic thing to do, is to put it to a second vote.
You probably don’t know as much as a British Citizen living in the UK. Labour at the last election promised to deliver Brexit. Labour heartlands overwhelmingly voted to leave the EU. The Labour leader immensely dislikes the EU.
The call for a peoples vote may be a reactionary concern from Corbyn who is concerned about losing voters. But fact is fact. Most Labour voters, voted leave. There is nothing to suggest they’ve changed their minds.
You can interpret things as you want, but what you do interpret is not fact.
We do not need a second vote. We voted leave in 2016 and the parties that promised to deliver Brexit at the last general election secured the vast majority of votes.
Two thirds of voters didn’t vote on Thursday. So lets no interpret anything that most people do not want a hard Brexit.