Dutchy wrote:anrec80 wrote:Dutchy wrote:Why are you deliberating confusing illegal aliens with asylum seekers? To make the obvious perfectly clear: illegal aliens have no right to anything you mentioned and thus they don't get any. Asylum seekers are a bit different of course, if they are granted a status, they are allegeable for welfare, but expect to fetch for their own.
I am not confusing anything - IRL it’s the same thing essentially. All illegal aliens essentially become “asylum seekers”, for some time at least. It’s time to remove those pink glasses. Expectedly, nobody will say they are coming somewhere for welfare at someone else’s expense. They will say and present anything they need in order to get that apartment “they give”, or get access to “the giving place” (Germany). As I mentioned - nobody wants to seek asylum in Eastern Europe, even though those are perfectly safe places.
The real solution - clear and strong laws that restrict welfare assistance stuff to citizens only. Period. No other case. End of story. If you are asylum seeker - you have received enough favor by being let into a safe country and provided an ability to work legally. That is generous of the accepting nation, and your turn is to not be a burden and seek ways to support yourself. But - those Africans aren’t coming to Europe to work and pay taxes, obviously.
Ah, the Putin approach. I see. Luckily I live in a compassionate society.
While I find Europe much more compassionate than other countries in general I wonder how you come to that conclusion on this issue and with your stance. You know that your democratically elected government tried every legal avenue to block NGO ships registered under it’s flag from rescuing migrants which is fully supported by a majority of the society you live in? And this is not just in The Netherlands, but a united European effort that got rid of dozens of NGO boats working in the Mediterranean and the EU’s own rescue mission while hundreds of migrants drown or are locked up in Libyan detention camps.
Then there is the US not even building a wall. Comparing these two Europe is by far the less compassionate towards migrants and more right wing. This reflects popular opinion in the EU where most citizens don’t want any more immigration of Muslims.