If we are talking semantics here, most people who claim to be "pro-choice" are actually adamantly against choice in most facets of daily life - in fact, they love nothing more than to exercise control over people. They just happen to make an exception when it comes to killing babies.
If we are talking common sense here.... claiming that people are "killing babies" is just an inflammatory accusation with no basis in fact. Roe v. Wade
established the timeline when a fetus normally becomes a viable life form, and restricted most abortions after that period. A fertilized egg - despite the pronouncements of the rabid "pro-life" Nazis, is not a baby, anymore than a loose acorn can be called a tree. But be careful the next time you go out and collect an acorn; the pro-tree-life fanatics may have passed a law demanding tree-assassin charges for your murderous actions - you disgusting tree-killer!
Agreed that if you are not prepared as a citizen to give that child total support ater birth from health, to education, to a safe environment to grow up and recreation to develop his imagination, your pro life conviction is no more genuine than telling someone you wish for "peace on Earth", and then move on with your life. To pretend that just making the action criminal will lead to that child receiving all of the above requisites for just the chance of being a productive citizen, without you not even moving a finger or giving a cent, is at best the stuff of delusions.
. It is always fascinating to see the same demagogues who relish in calling people "baby killers" are the people who decry any attempt to provide public funding for the children they so forcefully claim they cherish. But then, as you noticed, most of these are "holier than thou" types who are already full of delusions...
I have never met a woman who has had an abortion (and I’ve actually not met many) who was not fundamentally changed and sorrowful for having terminated their pregnancy, whether they terminated it because they just didn’t want to go forward with the pregnancy or they had to terminate it for health reasons for the fetus or the mother. Abortions are not something any woman takes lightly so it really angers me when people label people who are against abortions “pro-life”, as though people who do not want abortion to be illegal are somehow anti-life or pro-death. It’s not that simple. These are very difficult decisions that affect women and men who are partners or women for the rest of their lives and no one should have the right to castigate someone for terminating a pregnancy when they have no knowledge of their reason for doing so. If it is a moral or religious issue for those who have abortions then God will deal with it with that person. No one else has the right to.
The Neanderthals in the Alabama (and Missouri...) Legislatures should have to write this on a blackboard 50 times before they ever take another vote. If, indeed, they can read and write...
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