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Niki Lauda Dead at 70

Tue May 21, 2019 1:45 am

3-times F1 World Champion Niki Lauda, founder of Lauda Air & Niki, the man who is well known for actually going into the jungles of Thailand when his airline's 767 crashed & found the problem that Boeing didn't admit to at first, have passed away due to health complications.

May he rest in peace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ealth.html
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:05 am

A hell of an accomplishment to have lived that long with what he went through.
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Niki Lauda, R.I.P.

Tue May 21, 2019 2:13 am

Airline executive, pilot and racing driver of some repute:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/niki ... 0/4392728/

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Tue May 21, 2019 2:20 am

Very sad day. I respected him very greatly.

He was integral to making the McLaren TAG-Turbo project a success - his cunning plan to get the engine in the car earlier ultimately made it a success.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:23 am

Sad news. R.I.P Niki.
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:26 am

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Tue May 21, 2019 2:36 am

A great loss for the racing community and for the aviation community. In his own way he was a pioneer in both.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:50 am

He just took delivery of the first customer G7500. RIP Niki.

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Tue May 21, 2019 2:54 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48345660

I'm not a F1 fan but have seen many of his interviews on YouTube and elsewhere, and he was a remarkable man.
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Tue May 21, 2019 3:06 am

Wow, I thought he was much older than 70. I don't know much about him so I'll assume he was a good enough person. But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 3:21 am

Rest in peace.
 
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Wow, I thought he was much older than 70. I don't know much about him so I'll assume he was a good enough person. But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.


I think the looking old was to do with the awful accident where he was so badly burned. It's a miracle he survived it.

On Youtube, there are a couple of good interviews with him - one on the Lauda Air 767 crash, another one on his relations with James Hunt, both interesting. The Hunt one is both funny and sad at the same time.

How else would you name an airline? Lauda Air is simple and easy to remember, so is Fly Niki. Why not?
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 4:08 am

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Very sad day. I respected him very greatly.

He was integral to making the McLaren TAG-Turbo project a success - his cunning plan to get the engine in the car earlier ultimately made it a success.


I was just reading about this last week when out of a sudden I decided to Google about TAG. Yes, he was integral to the first Ron Dennis-led McLaren championship.

F1 sure lost a lot this year. First Charlie Whiting, and now Lauda. Both died on the week of a Grand Prix.
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cpd wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
Wow, I thought he was much older than 70. I don't know much about him so I'll assume he was a good enough person. But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.


I think the looking old was to do with the awful accident where he was so badly burned. It's a miracle he survived it.

On Youtube, there are a couple of good interviews with him - one on the Lauda Air 767 crash, another one on his relations with James Hunt, both interesting. The Hunt one is both funny and sad at the same time.

How else would you name an airline? Lauda Air is simple and easy to remember, so is Fly Niki. Why not?


Well David Neelman chose JetBlue instead of his name. Same for the founders of just about all of the other airlines.
 
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TTailedTiger wrote:
Wow, I thought he was much older than 70. I don't know much about him so I'll assume he was a good enough person. But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.

Pretty common thing to name a business after your name in Germany. I'd assume Austria is the same.
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Well David Neelman chose JetBlue instead of his name. Same for the founders of just about all of the other airlines.


I don't think it was narcissistic. The Lauda name had worldwide recognition on the back of his F1 championships & his near-death experience at the Nurburgring. It's a no-brainer for Niki to put his own name for the airline.
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Tue May 21, 2019 6:29 am

A sad loss of an F1 legend. The long-term effects of his horrible crash in 1976 obviously took their toll.

TTailedTiger wrote:
But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.


My Mother once advised me to keep my mouth shut if I couldn't think of anything nice to say. Wise words.
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Tue May 21, 2019 6:34 am

Not the quickest even of his era but was fast enough and knew how to set a car up for a full race. A larger figure outside the car than in it. Great Man.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 6:48 am

Very talented and humble man. He was an actual pilot at his own airline Lauda Air, which was to him like a 2nd family that he was very proud of.

Not to mention that he personally travelled to the crash site in Thailand when that dreadful accident happened in 1991. He dealt with the matter in a much more human way than most airline executives have done ever since.

This is a great loss for many.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 7:11 am

He had a lung transplant last year. Most transplant patients die within a year of the procedure. He was supposed to be at the Australian Grand Prix in March, but never made it to that nor any other races this season.
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Tue May 21, 2019 7:13 am

What a legend. My condolences to his family.
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scbriml wrote:
A sad loss of an F1 legend. The long-term effects of his horrible crash in 1976 obviously took their toll.

TTailedTiger wrote:
But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.


My Mother once advised me to keep my mouth shut if I couldn't think of anything nice to say. Wise words.


My own words would have been more Lauda like - he was often famously blunt. :)

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cpd wrote:
Very sad day. I respected him very greatly.

He was integral to making the McLaren TAG-Turbo project a success - his cunning plan to get the engine in the car earlier ultimately made it a success.


I was just reading about this last week when out of a sudden I decided to Google about TAG. Yes, he was integral to the first Ron Dennis-led McLaren championship.

F1 sure lost a lot this year. First Charlie Whiting, and now Lauda. Both died on the week of a Grand Prix.


The whole background of Lauda and the TAG-McLaren thing is legendary - few people cross Ron Dennis and John Barnard and get away with it, and even fewer get an admission from Ron Dennis "that is was possibly the right thing to do" - that being to put the TAG-Turbo Porsche engine in the old car in the season that was already written off, the idea being to use the rest of that year as development and testing for the new engine. He even tested the TAG-Turbo 1.5L V6 in Porsche 956-107, describing the acceleration as like "being hit in the back with a bomb". 956-107 in Tag form is here:

http://f1retro.gr/index.php/en/retro-st ... -1984-1988

It looks bizarre with that huge box section on the back of it.

He never left anything to chance. Really clever guy and an absolute legend. Such a terrible shame. :( I would have loved to meet him - that won't happen.

Niki Lauda on the 767 crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E42NN1rU93o

And on James Hunt: https://youtu.be/kM6OABZ0PZ4
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 7:27 am

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racing driver of some repute:


An undisputed legend. World Champion in 1975, on his way to a second, made a terrible crash that burned him al over but returned in the car 6 weeks later (full of bandages) to become 4th. He became a close second that year, (he missed 2 races). Took his 2nd world title in 1977. Then he went into airlines, but came back to take a third world title in 1984. That kind of guy.

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Tue May 21, 2019 7:39 am

RIP Niki Lauda. As an above poster mentioned, a life well lived. He came onto my radar when I was living in Hong Kong 1991-1992 and the tragic Lauda Air crash occurred on the BKK-VIE sector which originated in Hongkong. He never quit despite several setbacks. An inspiration to us all.
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May he rest in peace. He lived an absolutely interesting life.
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Tue May 21, 2019 8:30 am

I had the great honour of having him as Pilot on the B777 delivery flight from HAM to VIE.
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Tue May 21, 2019 9:01 am

I've seen a few vids, where Niki Lauda himself was flying an aircraft, I dunno if it was from DUB to VIE or the other way around, but I remember it was a 767. And of course, in F1 he was a fixture for decades, not just as a driver but also as a TV analyst on the German TV channel with the three letters I'm not namedropping. Suffice to say: He made Florian König a little less annoying by distracting from him with his in-depth knowledge of the business. I hope, whereever Niki Lauda is going, he'll say "hello" on behalf of all of us to the Formula 1 legends he gets to see again.

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Tue May 21, 2019 9:19 am

A very sad loss. A true F1 legend that I respected a great deal.

This weekend's Monaco GP is going to be quite a somber event I imagine.

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Tue May 21, 2019 9:36 am

A very sad day.

I will never forget the Latin panic that ensued when Nikki's 3 wheel Ferrari came to rest in front of our pit at the British GP while its 4th wheel carried on the race on its own down the pit lane. RIP to one of the greatest F1 drivers, a man of exceptional courage and determination.
 
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TheFlyingDisk wrote:
3-times F1 World Champion Niki Lauda, founder of Lauda Air & Niki, the man who is well known for actually going into the jungles of Thailand when his airline's 767 crashed & found the problem that Boeing didn't admit to at first, have passed away due to health complications.

May he rest in peace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ealth.html


It should also be noted that there are irregularities noted with the history of that 767 too. But that’s probably only suitable to discuss in the technical operations forum.
 
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scbriml wrote:
A sad loss of an F1 legend. The long-term effects of his horrible crash in 1976 obviously took their toll.

TTailedTiger wrote:
But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.


My Mother once advised me to keep my mouth shut if I couldn't think of anything nice to say. Wise words.

Apparently she preferred passive aggressiveness. ;-)
 
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scbriml wrote:
A sad loss of an F1 legend. The long-term effects of his horrible crash in 1976 obviously took their toll.

TTailedTiger wrote:
But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.


My Mother once advised me to keep my mouth shut if I couldn't think of anything nice to say. Wise words.

Apparently she preferred passive aggressiveness. ;-)


If Niki were here, he’d sort out this TTail tiger guy quickly. He wouldn’t say that directly to the man himself.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 1:03 pm

If you've read his autobiography from the 80's you'll find out about his fight with Austrian Airlines, which is a real example of state controlled protectionism. Shocking how consumers were ripped off by their own government to try and support the state airline.

One example was AA saying he couldn't fly F27's over the Alps as they were unpressurised.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 1:08 pm

Legend is an overused word these days, but in Niki Lauda's case it seems almost insufficient. RIP, Niki.

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He just took delivery of the first customer G7500. RIP Niki.

Fittingly, BBD pays him a well-deserved tribute.....

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... da-458344/


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scbriml wrote:
A sad loss of an F1 legend. The long-term effects of his horrible crash in 1976 obviously took their toll.

TTailedTiger wrote:
But I do think he was a little narcissistic with naming three airlines after himself. That was just weird.


My Mother once advised me to keep my mouth shut if I couldn't think of anything nice to say. Wise words.


Gladly second that. A controversial man with many qualities, may he RIP, he will be missed in the paddock!
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:13 pm

R.I.P, Niki. You will be missed.

I saw him winning his last GP in a Ferrari which secured him the second World Championship. It was my first F1 GP visit, back in Zandvoort in 1977. I have two of his (signed) books at home which he wrote in the late 70s.

A great driver, surely among the top ten ever. And a honest, but tough business man who´s strive for perfection was legendary. Is there anyone else on this world who launched and ran three airlines successfully, and that after winning three World Championships in the most elite sport?
 
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Very talented and humble man. He was an actual pilot at his own airline Lauda Air, which was to him like a 2nd family that he was very proud of.

Not to mention that he personally travelled to the crash site in Thailand when that dreadful accident happened in 1991. He dealt with the matter in a much more human way than most airline executives have done ever since.

This is a great loss for many.


His involvement in the investigation of Flight 4 and push and insistence on either wanting Boeing to replicate the incident or install a positive lock to prevent it, led to a badly needed improvement on the 767, to prevent thrust reverser deployment in flight, which caused the crash of OE-LAV. Sister ships OE-LAW/X still fly today.

As for his racing career, that accident in 1976 that could have killed him stands out there. He was that generation’s Ayrton Senna.
 
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For the non-aviation part (I first saw a post on this in the Civil Aviation forum), the lasting memory has to be that crash in 1976 and his return, being that generation’s Ayrton Senna. That would carry over well to his career in aviation.
 
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I once had the pleasure to have him as captain of a Niki flight from FRA-VIE. Recognized his voice immediately and saw him when we deboarded.
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RIP Niki. I have never seen him in person but always admired what he has accomplished in his life. My condolences to his family.

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RIP.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 5:49 pm

This one hurts.

Niki Lauda was an absolute Renaissance Man, and someone so worthy of our admiration. Beyond the fact that he was an amazingly gifted driver, he had--well, guts--that always served him well. His decision to run one lap and quit in Japan for safety was glorious. He did his thing unapologetically and I love him.

But as an aviation nerd, his response to Lauda Air 004 remains such a critical point in aviation for me. He squared off against Boeing, brashly, rightly, and won. It was--is remains--a HUGE, under-appreciated moment in crash investigation (also, as a sidenote, Lauda's personal visit a several dozen unidentified graves in Thailand, remains a hugely personal and impactful thing to do), where someone squared off against Mama Boeing.

He had guts, character, resolve, business acumen. And I shall miss him. RIP Herr Lauda.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 6:03 pm

What a story, what a life, what a man... Niki Lauda has achieved amazing things in this world because he went for it and never gave up. That is the definition of "Role Model"
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It's amazing what he was able to accomplish in his life. RIP Niki.
 
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He had one hell of a good run for what he's been through. He will be missed. R.I.P
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