ual763 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

I always thought Independence Day was about celebrating what makes America great and our history and who we are as a nation. Not about one person. It was not ONLY George Washington who defeated the British. It was not ONLY Abraham Lincoln who defeated the traitorous South. It was not ONLY Eisenhower who defeated Hitler. Those took thousands of men and women.

Hence why we are celebrating the MILITARY today.

bgm wrote:

John Adams wrote:

I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever more.

Don't see anything there about tanks, .

Magog wrote:

This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.

BN747 wrote:

ParkFSI wrote:

ltbewr wrote:

I am sorry to say this, but I hope that the evening in particular for Trump is ruined by massive thunderstorms.
The 4th of July is the day in which the Declaration of Independence saw its first signatures, a peaceful act of defiance, not violence or war. Celebrating the day with a display of our military might is an insult to the meaning of the day. This is a massive ego trip by Pres. Trump, a way to push for loyalty to him, not so much our country, by a President who is far from being a real patriot, just some money grubbing jerk. I can't wait for the day he is out of office by losing in 2020, Impeached and removed or dies a natural death and we can return to sanity.

He’s most likely to be re-elected / impeached for what / you just lowered yourself below what you think of him by wishing death to someone / what kind of sanity would we return to ?

He wasn't wishing death on anyone...the out-of-shape, very poor diet of cokes and cheeseburgers' (known facts) are self-inducing, destructive roadmaps to take a 70+ year old to the 6-feet underworld.

'Impeached and removed '...are necessary actions for an unstable, mistake prone, constitutionally unfaithful leader in a nation based on laws designed to protect and affirm the American govt.

..So what's your Beef?

If you see flaunting all that as sanity...I'd like to see your definition of 'insanity'.

Personal note: As a veteran, to make all those people forfeit their holiday to put on a show for -HIM.

It's down right pathetic, selfish and extremely narcissistic!

They will NOT be thrilled to be there!

And his demand that uniformed generals in full uniform flanking him - him, a yellow bellied, chicken-shit coward paints a picture of a Coward-in-Command. That's what you will see should you watch it while chowing down burgers, hot dogs, cokes, beer, etc. The Generals should all show in up in khaki shorts and T-shirts and leave their uniforms at home.

Then a private party for his 'friends'at the Lincoln memorial , Not the public..but his friends at taxpayer expense.

If none of you can see this charade for what is...then have some compassion for those out their sweating their asses off 'performing for him', not us (because we don't NEED it) he obviously...NEEDS this. It's as if a child came up with this and is getting his wish ..because he can. No adult, male or female with a minimal understanding of military might would 'think of something like this'.

You approve of that? Then it's telling YOU exactly where your head is. And it's no with any care for the troops nor for the senseless splurge and waste of taxpayer dollars.

There just is no way to endorse this in a sound mind.


Don't Vote Rapist
BN747

glideslope900 wrote:

I guess JFK is a ego driven child for having a military parade.

alfa164 wrote:

glideslope900 wrote:

I guess JFK is a ego driven child for having a military parade.

JFK served bravely in the military. President Bonespurs was too... injured... to serve anywhere... except on the golf course.

glideslope900 wrote:

BN747 wrote:

ParkFSI wrote:

He’s most likely to be re-elected / impeached for what / you just lowered yourself below what you think of him by wishing death to someone / what kind of sanity would we return to ?

He wasn't wishing death on anyone...the out-of-shape, very poor diet of cokes and cheeseburgers' (known facts) are self-inducing, destructive roadmaps to take a 70+ year old to the 6-feet underworld.

'Impeached and removed '...are necessary actions for an unstable, mistake prone, constitutionally unfaithful leader in a nation based on laws designed to protect and affirm the American govt.

..So what's your Beef?

If you see flaunting all that as sanity...I'd like to see your definition of 'insanity'.

Personal note: As a veteran, to make all those people forfeit their holiday to put on a show for -HIM.

It's down right pathetic, selfish and extremely narcissistic!

They will NOT be thrilled to be there!

And his demand that uniformed generals in full uniform flanking him - him, a yellow bellied, chicken-shit coward paints a picture of a Coward-in-Command. That's what you will see should you watch it while chowing down burgers, hot dogs, cokes, beer, etc. The Generals should all show in up in khaki shorts and T-shirts and leave their uniforms at home.

Then a private party for his 'friends'at the Lincoln memorial , Not the public..but his friends at taxpayer expense.

If none of you can see this charade for what is...then have some compassion for those out their sweating their asses off 'performing for him', not us (because we don't NEED it) he obviously...NEEDS this. It's as if a child came up with this and is getting his wish ..because he can. No adult, male or female with a minimal understanding of military might would 'think of something like this'.

You approve of that? Then it's telling YOU exactly where your head is. And it's no with any care for the troops nor for the senseless splurge and waste of taxpayer dollars.

There just is no way to endorse this in a sound mind.


Don't Vote Rapist
BN747

Triggered much?

I guess JFK is a ego driven child for having a military parade.

With regards to the cokes and fast food, I bet Trump looks better at 73 than you will. That kind of unhappiness and anger is not normal nor healthy and will wear you down, putting you 6 ft. under.

Magog wrote:

This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.

Magog wrote:

This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.

BN747 wrote:

Magog wrote:

This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.

"Us"....wait, you swearing up n down you were a moderate last month - what happened?


Don't Vote Predator
BN747

BN747 wrote:

As for JFK having military parades...are you that ignorant of history not know age that era was? Really?...and you're trying to say we're still in the early1960s?

Babyshark wrote:

These fly overs are pretty cool. The B2 and AF1 were really cool.

NIKV69 wrote:

Babyshark wrote:

These fly overs are pretty cool. The B2 and AF1 were really cool.

CNN cut to commercial in the middle of the B2 what idiots. The Ospreys were epic too.

seb146 wrote:

Magog wrote:

It sounds like, other than a too long speech, it was a wonderful celebration of America and the freedoms that Americans all enjoy.

And your dear leader is now off to one of his clubs to play a long weekend of golf on our dime. Do homeless veterans get to enjoy that too?

Magog wrote:

Nope. I’ve always been a Democrat.

seb146 wrote:

Magog wrote:

It sounds like, other than a too long speech, it was a wonderful celebration of America and the freedoms that Americans all enjoy.

And your dear leader is now off to one of his clubs to play a long weekend of golf on our dime. Do homeless veterans get to enjoy that too?

In June of 1775 the Continental Congress created a unified Army out of the Revolutionary Forces encamped around Boston and New York, and named after the great George Washington, commander in chief,” Trump read in his speech. “The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware and seized victory from Cornwallis at Yorktown. Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over airports, it did everything it had to do and at Ft. McHenry under the rocket’s red glare had nothing but victory. When dawn came, the star-spangled banner waved defiant.”

910A wrote:

I questioning if Trump is even a high school graduate; everyone knows no airports existed in 1775. From the opening of his speech:

In June of 1775 the Continental Congress created a unified Army out of the Revolutionary Forces encamped around Boston and New York, and named after the great George Washington, commander in chief,” Trump read in his speech. “The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware and seized victory from Cornwallis at Yorktown. Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over airports, it did everything it had to do and at Ft. McHenry under the rocket’s red glare had nothing but victory. When dawn came, the star-spangled banner waved defiant.”

A speech writer should probably hand his/her resignation tomorrow, unless the President was just making up stuff on the fly. Oh yes, Ft. McHenry was the War of 1812.

ltbewr wrote:

Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.

Aesma wrote:

I know Trump got some inspiration to do this from Bastille day 2017 in Paris, however in France it is also the day the military is celebrated, we don't have a memorial day for example. And the military is really never spoken about, nor seen or heard, except for November 11th and May 8th, but then it's really about history. Very different from the US.

Also, the president doesn't make a speech ! And there are no tickets being sold, if you go early enough you get a good spot, and might shake hands with the president with a bit of luck.

So please, forgive us !

ltbewr wrote:

Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.

BN747 wrote:

ltbewr wrote:

Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.

As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America.

Burning the flag for shits n giggles is something than earn one a beatdown, but if this protester was railing against prez Porky and politicizing Independence Day in his flag burn..he's on solid ground. And anyone hitting him are lunatics. Officials arresting him are right to do so as starting a fire in public is a violation of some city ordinance.

We currently have a president wiping his ass with the America flag and pissing on the US Constitution on a daily basis...so where are the consequences?

Aesma wrote:

I know Trump got some inspiration to do this from Bastille day 2017 in Paris, however in France it is also the day the military is celebrated, we don't have a memorial day for example. And the military is really never spoken about, nor seen or heard, except for November 11th and May 8th, but then it's really about history. Very different from the US.

Also, the president doesn't make a speech ! And there are no tickets being sold, if you go early enough you get a good spot, and might shake hands with the president with a bit of luck.

So please, forgive us !

We don't need one for active duty.

When then discharge from service, they are honored with Veterans Day.

That's problem with a day to honor cops, it means you are honoring the 10,000s of bad cops too. They deserve no honors.
Firefighters...give them a National holiday.

BN747

dmg626 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

mham001 wrote:

Is there something wrong with that? Is homelessness a problem worthy of federal interest, or not? Should the feds ignore it because it is a Republican administration?

Democrats have been trying to tell the country there is a problem with homeless for years.....

Democrats were in control for how many years and did what to “solve” the homeless issue?

Magog wrote:

CNN described Trump’s speech as “one of the least polarizing speeches of his presidency.”
.

Hardly worth burning a flag over.

tommy1808 wrote:

Magog wrote:

CNN described Trump’s speech as “one of the least polarizing speeches of his presidency.”
.

He isn't a good benchmark for non-polarising speeches now, is he?

BN747 wrote:

ltbewr wrote:

Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.

As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America.


BN747

Magog wrote:

tommy1808 wrote:

Magog wrote:

CNN described Trump’s speech as “one of the least polarizing speeches of his presidency.”
.

He isn't a good benchmark for non-polarising speeches now, is he?

What in his hour long speech did you find to be polarizing?

ltbewr wrote:

Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.

tommy1808 wrote:

Magog wrote:

tommy1808 wrote:

He isn't a good benchmark for non-polarising speeches now, is he?

What in his hour long speech did you find to be polarizing?

I didn't say I find it popularizing, did I?

BN747 wrote:

As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America. Burning the flag for shits n giggles is something than earn one a beatdown, but if this protester was railing against prez Porky and politicizing Independence Day in his flag burn..he's on solid ground. And anyone hitting him are lunatics. Officials arresting him are right to do so as starting a fire in public is a violation of some city ordinance. We currently have a president wiping his ass with the America flag and pissing on the US Constitution on a daily basis...so where are the consequences?

alfa164 wrote:

Just as our founders protested the heavy hand of Britain, many Americans object to the intrusion of a heavy-handed wanna-be dictator (just look at his infatuation with Xi, Kim, LiliPutin, and Mohammed bin Salman for examples) into what is rightfully vied as a holiday for every American. It is to his credit that he managed to stay (mostly - except for all those aircraft flying over Fort McHenry) loyal to his script, but his mere determination to make himself the center of attention - and expect adulation for that - was a legitimate reason for protest.

NIKV69 wrote:

Babyshark wrote:

These fly overs are pretty cool. The B2 and AF1 were really cool.

CNN cut to commercial in the middle of the B2 what idiots. The Ospreys were epic too.

alfa164 wrote:

BN747 wrote:

As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America. Burning the flag for shits n giggles is something than earn one a beatdown, but if this protester was railing against prez Porky and politicizing Independence Day in his flag burn..he's on solid ground. And anyone hitting him are lunatics. Officials arresting him are right to do so as starting a fire in public is a violation of some city ordinance. We currently have a president wiping his ass with the America flag and pissing on the US Constitution on a daily basis...so where are the consequences?

.This. .The Fourth of July has always been a holiday when Americans of all political persuasions can come together and celebrate the foresight our Founding Fathers had when they declared our independence from England as began our great experiment in democracy, human right, and universal freedoms. Presidents in the past have saluted those aspirations, but no President has - until now - sought to make himself the center of attention.

Donald J. Trump is a divisive figure; he has none of the dignity or gravitas many Americans may rightfully expect from their leader, but he does carry the unquestioning adoration of others less concerned with greatness, but more interested in dogma and disruption. It is not something he himself would deny; his political strategy is predicated on riveting himself to his most rabid supporters, and decrying everyone else as unworthy and, in their eyes, "unAmerican". That may work as a political strategy - it did in 2016 - but it is not a winning formula for uniting a nation - or even appealing to a nation on a day of unified national celebration. Thus protesters took offense at his tactics - and that was well withing their rights.

Just as our founders protested the heavy hand of Britain, many Americans object to the intrusion of a heavy-handed wanna-be dictator (just look at his infatuation with Xi, Kim, LiliPutin, and Mohammed bin Salman for examples) into what is rightfully vied as a holiday for every American. It is to his credit that he managed to stay (mostly - except for all those aircraft flying over Fort McHenry) loyal to his script, but his mere determination to make himself the center of attention - and expect adulation for that - was a legitimate reason for protest.

After all, that is what our independence gave us the right to do.

ual763 wrote:

BN747 wrote:

ltbewr wrote:

Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.

As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America.


BN747

Not only does this go completely against everything the Air Force has ever taught, and go against mostly every single code of conduct in it, it is also morally corrupt. Using your service and the sacrifices of others who died for that flag to denigrate and justify the burning of the flag is just wrong. Try that stunt in the Air Force today (or at any time since it’s founding) and your ass would have been thrown out to the curb so quickly, you wouldn’t even have time to know what happened.

P.S. - I find it hilarious you say Trump and the conservatives are the ones who are pissing and stompin all over our constitution. Exactly, what is he pissing on? Last time I checked, it was the Dems that openly called for abolishing certain amendments and clauses in our constitution, whereas Trump is just looking to uphold it... Oh, that’s right, you suffer from TDS, therefore anything Trump does is “against the constitution”.

Magog wrote:

tommy1808 wrote:

Magog wrote:

What in his hour long speech did you find to be polarizing?

I didn't say I find it popularizing, did I?

Gotcha. I was just confirming that you did not find his speech to be at all polarizing.

It sounds like it was a great day and a great celebration!

I’m no Trump fan, but, like you, I can admit when he gets something right.