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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:48 pm

Trump is an expert in unreality TV and this is just another performance to get his name "in lights". I can see a Presidential Executive Order changing the Holiday to President Trump Day - with the Republicans in Congress being strong supporters of the change. By the way, what ever happened to Reagan being the GOP Hero of all time? Today's Republicans seem to be afraid in case a Trumpet overhears them.

All we can do now is pray for rain and Trump getting the smallest crowd in 50 years.,
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:51 pm

ual763 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
I always thought Independence Day was about celebrating what makes America great and our history and who we are as a nation. Not about one person. It was not ONLY George Washington who defeated the British. It was not ONLY Abraham Lincoln who defeated the traitorous South. It was not ONLY Eisenhower who defeated Hitler. Those took thousands of men and women.


Hence why we are celebrating the MILITARY today.


Because the orange one demanded it. At OUR expense. He is insisting homeless is a "liberal" problem that only recently started (it didn't and veterans are homeless, too) and that his cronies have the "best" seats for his celebration that he wanted and he demands everyone else pay for.

He still has not paid his bill from other rallies in other cities. And he is going to go golfing the rest of the weekend. At his resort. That we will pay for.

How is that celebrating us and our forefathers hard work?

https://deadstate.org/trump-is-turning- ... jjnl-BVc4w

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:40 pm

May want to read the fact check of his speech as well, it is amazing how so many people can continue to follow Trump with the BS that just comes out of his mouth.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-chec ... 05744.html
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:41 pm

bgm wrote:

John Adams wrote:
I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever more.


Don't see anything there about tanks, .

Exactly! John Adams didn’t say a SINGLE thing about tanks!

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:44 pm

This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:27 pm

Magog wrote:
This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.


Except Trump isn’t doing that. He’s using the July 4th celebrations as a political rally. Get his fan base all pumped up, while he holds kids in concentration camps.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:16 pm

The Trump Rally has been delayed due to weather .

"https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/district-of-columbia/weather-radar?play=1"

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:17 pm

BN747 wrote:
ParkFSI wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
I am sorry to say this, but I hope that the evening in particular for Trump is ruined by massive thunderstorms.
The 4th of July is the day in which the Declaration of Independence saw its first signatures, a peaceful act of defiance, not violence or war. Celebrating the day with a display of our military might is an insult to the meaning of the day. This is a massive ego trip by Pres. Trump, a way to push for loyalty to him, not so much our country, by a President who is far from being a real patriot, just some money grubbing jerk. I can't wait for the day he is out of office by losing in 2020, Impeached and removed or dies a natural death and we can return to sanity.


He’s most likely to be re-elected / impeached for what / you just lowered yourself below what you think of him by wishing death to someone / what kind of sanity would we return to ?


He wasn't wishing death on anyone...the out-of-shape, very poor diet of cokes and cheeseburgers' (known facts) are self-inducing, destructive roadmaps to take a 70+ year old to the 6-feet underworld.

'Impeached and removed '...are necessary actions for an unstable, mistake prone, constitutionally unfaithful leader in a nation based on laws designed to protect and affirm the American govt.

..So what's your Beef?

If you see flaunting all that as sanity...I'd like to see your definition of 'insanity'.

Personal note: As a veteran, to make all those people forfeit their holiday to put on a show for -HIM.

It's down right pathetic, selfish and extremely narcissistic!

They will NOT be thrilled to be there!

And his demand that uniformed generals in full uniform flanking him - him, a yellow bellied, chicken-shit coward paints a picture of a Coward-in-Command. That's what you will see should you watch it while chowing down burgers, hot dogs, cokes, beer, etc. The Generals should all show in up in khaki shorts and T-shirts and leave their uniforms at home.

Then a private party for his 'friends'at the Lincoln memorial , Not the public..but his friends at taxpayer expense.

If none of you can see this charade for what is...then have some compassion for those out their sweating their asses off 'performing for him', not us (because we don't NEED it) he obviously...NEEDS this. It's as if a child came up with this and is getting his wish ..because he can. No adult, male or female with a minimal understanding of military might would 'think of something like this'.

You approve of that? Then it's telling YOU exactly where your head is. And it's no with any care for the troops nor for the senseless splurge and waste of taxpayer dollars.

There just is no way to endorse this in a sound mind.


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Triggered much?

I guess JFK is a ego driven child for having a military parade.

With regards to the cokes and fast food, I bet Trump looks better at 73 than you will. That kind of unhappiness and anger is not normal nor healthy and will wear you down, putting you 6 ft. under.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:20 pm

glideslope900 wrote:
I guess JFK is a ego driven child for having a military parade.


JFK served bravely in the military. President Bonespurs was too... injured... to serve anywhere... except on the golf course. Or in some other woman's bedroom, while his wife was expecting...

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:24 pm

alfa164 wrote:
glideslope900 wrote:
I guess JFK is a ego driven child for having a military parade.


JFK served bravely in the military. President Bonespurs was too... injured... to serve anywhere... except on the golf course.


If he really was injured then he was injured. It takes bravery to do what Trump is doing now, especially in the face of a deranged and rabid left wing party and media.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:24 pm

It’s odd that people are complaining more about a couple of tanks at a parade than the Obama administration building cages to house children.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:11 pm

glideslope900 wrote:
BN747 wrote:
ParkFSI wrote:

He’s most likely to be re-elected / impeached for what / you just lowered yourself below what you think of him by wishing death to someone / what kind of sanity would we return to ?


He wasn't wishing death on anyone...the out-of-shape, very poor diet of cokes and cheeseburgers' (known facts) are self-inducing, destructive roadmaps to take a 70+ year old to the 6-feet underworld.

'Impeached and removed '...are necessary actions for an unstable, mistake prone, constitutionally unfaithful leader in a nation based on laws designed to protect and affirm the American govt.

..So what's your Beef?

If you see flaunting all that as sanity...I'd like to see your definition of 'insanity'.

Personal note: As a veteran, to make all those people forfeit their holiday to put on a show for -HIM.

It's down right pathetic, selfish and extremely narcissistic!

They will NOT be thrilled to be there!

And his demand that uniformed generals in full uniform flanking him - him, a yellow bellied, chicken-shit coward paints a picture of a Coward-in-Command. That's what you will see should you watch it while chowing down burgers, hot dogs, cokes, beer, etc. The Generals should all show in up in khaki shorts and T-shirts and leave their uniforms at home.

Then a private party for his 'friends'at the Lincoln memorial , Not the public..but his friends at taxpayer expense.

If none of you can see this charade for what is...then have some compassion for those out their sweating their asses off 'performing for him', not us (because we don't NEED it) he obviously...NEEDS this. It's as if a child came up with this and is getting his wish ..because he can. No adult, male or female with a minimal understanding of military might would 'think of something like this'.

You approve of that? Then it's telling YOU exactly where your head is. And it's no with any care for the troops nor for the senseless splurge and waste of taxpayer dollars.

There just is no way to endorse this in a sound mind.


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BN747



Triggered much?

I guess JFK is a ego driven child for having a military parade.

With regards to the cokes and fast food, I bet Trump looks better at 73 than you will. That kind of unhappiness and anger is not normal nor healthy and will wear you down, putting you 6 ft. under.



Bro, you'd lose shorts, shirt any change in your bank account, I now bench 220, can do 40 reps of 4 set of pull ups on tower bar behind/infront plus the same in dips and 40 pushups/ 3 sets when I reach president lard-asses age I'm sure I'll be within 90% of that if not the same. Now...do you even know what a gym is?

Your hero, President Porky?...he can't do 1 sit up, 1 pull up..and push up - No way! But he can pump a box of donuts!

But sucking up to the Criminal-in-Chief no matter what is what you people do for a living so there is no doubt you believe being obese, consuming cheeseburgers and cokes is the way to go.

As for JFK having military parades...are you that ignorant of history not know age that era was? Really?...and you're trying to say we're still in the early1960s?

Catch up..

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:14 pm

Magog wrote:
This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.


"Us"....wait, you swearing up n down you were a moderate last month - what happened?


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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:15 pm

Magog wrote:
This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.


"Us"....wait, you swearing up n down you were a moderate last month - what happened?


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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:18 pm

BN747 wrote:
Magog wrote:
This is what Trump is good at - trolling the left.

Trump: “Let’s celebrate our country and honor the military.”

Leftists: “Let’s not!”

That’ll win us back Ohio.


"Us"....wait, you swearing up n down you were a moderate last month - what happened?


Don't Vote Predator
BN747

Nope. I’ve always been a Democrat.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:21 pm

BN747 wrote:

As for JFK having military parades...are you that ignorant of history not know age that era was? Really?...and you're trying to say we're still in the early1960s?

Excellent point. During the Kennedy administration we were on the brink of global nuclear war with the Soviet Union. Displaying military force was definitely more provocative back then.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:14 pm

These fly overs are pretty cool. The B2 and AF1 were really cool.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:18 pm

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These fly overs are pretty cool. The B2 and AF1 were really cool.


CNN cut to commercial in the middle of the B2 what idiots. The Ospreys were epic too.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:28 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
Babyshark wrote:
These fly overs are pretty cool. The B2 and AF1 were really cool.


CNN cut to commercial in the middle of the B2 what idiots. The Ospreys were epic too.


They just cut to commercial during the Battle Hymn of the Republic too, but it's the only US Channel other than CNBC available in the UK, so no alternative. Utterly useless network.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:39 pm

The blue angels stole the show at the end, that was awesome
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:43 pm

Well I am glad that he stuck to the script. The military planes were cool, but I think the speech was way to long. To me it was him just rambling for almost a hour.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:45 pm

It sounds like, other than a too long speech, it was a wonderful celebration of America and the freedoms that Americans all enjoy.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:00 am

Military might at the request of the occupant of the White House is patriotic how? How is this helping homeless veterans? How is this helping Spanish speaking Americans who are living in fear they will end up in dog cages in the desert? How is this helping LGBTQ people who are still having their rights taken away?

Until the current occupant of the White House, Independence Day was about us. We The People. Not simply "I saw a whole bunch of cool military stuff dictators get to watch so let's do that because America!" For all his faults, George W. Bush made an effort to make Independence Day about all of us. Maybe we need to go back to that?
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:07 am

seb146 wrote:
Magog wrote:
It sounds like, other than a too long speech, it was a wonderful celebration of America and the freedoms that Americans all enjoy.


And your dear leader is now off to one of his clubs to play a long weekend of golf on our dime. Do homeless veterans get to enjoy that too?


He also played golf this morning - accompanied by a full, expensive, Secret Service contingent - this morning, before heading to the Mall.

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Nope. I’ve always been a Democrat.


Well... not when you were using some of your other names here...

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:29 am

We have flyovers at opening day for baseball teams. We have air shows several times a month. There is utterly nothing wrong with a flyover in our most patriotic day.

Except for the fact that it was horribly planned, and presented by the president, who sold front row tickets. It would have been great if trump hadn’t f’ed it up.
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:30 am

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The blue angels stole the show at the end, that was awesome

They flew directly over my house, too! Lovely.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:31 am

seb146 wrote:
Magog wrote:
It sounds like, other than a too long speech, it was a wonderful celebration of America and the freedoms that Americans all enjoy.


And your dear leader is now off to one of his clubs to play a long weekend of golf on our dime. Do homeless veterans get to enjoy that too?

I’m pretty sure that Presidents from both parties have enjoyed privileges that homeless veterans haven’t been able to enjoy. Feel free to fact check me, though.
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:59 am

The National Mall web cams are down but, hey, at least we can watch a nice Russian military parade....

https://whitehouse.gov1.info/webcam/whi ... -lawn.html
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:02 am

I questioning if Trump is even a high school graduate; everyone knows no airports existed in 1775. From the opening of his speech:

In June of 1775 the Continental Congress created a unified Army out of the Revolutionary Forces encamped around Boston and New York, and named after the great George Washington, commander in chief,” Trump read in his speech. “The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware and seized victory from Cornwallis at Yorktown. Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over airports, it did everything it had to do and at Ft. McHenry under the rocket’s red glare had nothing but victory. When dawn came, the star-spangled banner waved defiant.”


A speech writer should probably hand his/her resignation tomorrow, unless the President was just making up stuff on the fly. Oh yes, Ft. McHenry was the War of 1812.
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:16 am

910A wrote:
I questioning if Trump is even a high school graduate; everyone knows no airports existed in 1775. From the opening of his speech:

In June of 1775 the Continental Congress created a unified Army out of the Revolutionary Forces encamped around Boston and New York, and named after the great George Washington, commander in chief,” Trump read in his speech. “The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware and seized victory from Cornwallis at Yorktown. Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over airports, it did everything it had to do and at Ft. McHenry under the rocket’s red glare had nothing but victory. When dawn came, the star-spangled banner waved defiant.”


A speech writer should probably hand his/her resignation tomorrow, unless the President was just making up stuff on the fly. Oh yes, Ft. McHenry was the War of 1812.


Our president don't know a whole lot that is true. Yesterday he said brand new Sherman tanks will be a part of this spectacle. The Sherman tank was a WWII and ended production in 1945.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:42 am

The President of the United States, Donald J Trump, nailed it. Good call to get involved. Awesome show.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:55 am

Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:11 am

I know Trump got some inspiration to do this from Bastille day 2017 in Paris, however in France it is also the day the military is celebrated, we don't have a memorial day for example. And the military is really never spoken about, nor seen or heard, except for November 11th and May 8th, but then it's really about history. Very different from the US.

Also, the president doesn't make a speech ! And there are no tickets being sold, if you go early enough you get a good spot, and might shake hands with the president with a bit of luck.

So please, forgive us !
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:05 am

ltbewr wrote:
Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.


As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America.

Burning the flag for shits n giggles is something than earn one a beatdown, but if this protester was railing against prez Porky and politicizing Independence Day in his flag burn..he's on solid ground. And anyone hitting him are lunatics. Officials arresting him are right to do so as starting a fire in public is a violation of some city ordinance.

We currently have a president wiping his ass with the America flag and pissing on the US Constitution on a daily basis...so where are the consequences?

Aesma wrote:
I know Trump got some inspiration to do this from Bastille day 2017 in Paris, however in France it is also the day the military is celebrated, we don't have a memorial day for example. And the military is really never spoken about, nor seen or heard, except for November 11th and May 8th, but then it's really about history. Very different from the US.

Also, the president doesn't make a speech ! And there are no tickets being sold, if you go early enough you get a good spot, and might shake hands with the president with a bit of luck.

So please, forgive us !


We don't need one for active duty.

When then discharge from service, they are honored with Veterans Day.

That's problem with a day to honor cops, it means you are honoring the 10,000s of bad cops too. They deserve no honors.
Firefighters...give them a National holiday.

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:05 am

ltbewr wrote:
Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.

Whose votes are the liberals trying to win over? The three left in Brooklyn and San Francisco? It’s as if they forgot that there is lots of land in between.

I’m all for free speech, but I can also recognize the inevitable consequences.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:16 am

BN747 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.


As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America.

Burning the flag for shits n giggles is something than earn one a beatdown, but if this protester was railing against prez Porky and politicizing Independence Day in his flag burn..he's on solid ground. And anyone hitting him are lunatics. Officials arresting him are right to do so as starting a fire in public is a violation of some city ordinance.

We currently have a president wiping his ass with the America flag and pissing on the US Constitution on a daily basis...so where are the consequences?

Aesma wrote:
I know Trump got some inspiration to do this from Bastille day 2017 in Paris, however in France it is also the day the military is celebrated, we don't have a memorial day for example. And the military is really never spoken about, nor seen or heard, except for November 11th and May 8th, but then it's really about history. Very different from the US.

Also, the president doesn't make a speech ! And there are no tickets being sold, if you go early enough you get a good spot, and might shake hands with the president with a bit of luck.

So please, forgive us !


We don't need one for active duty.

When then discharge from service, they are honored with Veterans Day.

That's problem with a day to honor cops, it means you are honoring the 10,000s of bad cops too. They deserve no honors.
Firefighters...give them a National holiday.

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SCOTUS also opined that flag burning is permissible political speech - twice. See Texas v. Johnson and US v. Eichman
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:50 am

CNN described Trump’s speech as “one of the least polarizing speeches of his presidency.”

Hardly worth burning a flag over.
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:47 pm

dmg626 wrote:
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Is there something wrong with that? Is homelessness a problem worthy of federal interest, or not? Should the feds ignore it because it is a Republican administration?


Democrats have been trying to tell the country there is a problem with homeless for years.....


Democrats were in control for how many years and did what to “solve” the homeless issue?


Democrats where in control for 2 years. In the little time they had they started Opening Doors, the USA' s first comprehensive Federal strategy against homelessness, that has halved the number of homeless veterans and led to a ~3% decline in the number of homeless per year. The decrease stopped 2017 and is slightly rising again.

Whatever they did was apparently better than what's currently being done. Glad I could help.

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:50 pm

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CNN described Trump’s speech as “one of the least polarizing speeches of his presidency.”
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He isn't a good benchmark for non-polarising speeches now, is he?

Hardly worth burning a flag over.


It is a good symbol for what Trump is doing though...

But there is an ample supply of traitor (=confederate) flags one could burn if you need some warmth though.

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:03 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
Magog wrote:
CNN described Trump’s speech as “one of the least polarizing speeches of his presidency.”
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He isn't a good benchmark for non-polarising speeches now, is he?


What in his hour long speech did you find to be polarizing?
 
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:03 pm

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ltbewr wrote:
Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.


As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America.


BN747


Not only does this go completely against everything the Air Force has ever taught, and go against mostly every single code of conduct in it, it is also morally corrupt. Using your service and the sacrifices of others who died for that flag to denigrate and justify the burning of the flag is just wrong. Try that stunt in the Air Force today (or at any time since it’s founding) and your ass would have been thrown out to the curb so quickly, you wouldn’t even have time to know what happened.

P.S. - I find it hilarious you say Trump and the conservatives are the ones who are pissing and stompin all over our constitution. Exactly, what is he pissing on? Last time I checked, it was the Dems that openly called for abolishing certain amendments and clauses in our constitution, whereas Trump is just looking to uphold it... Oh, that’s right, you suffer from TDS, therefore anything Trump does is “against the constitution”.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:14 pm

Magog wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
Magog wrote:
CNN described Trump’s speech as “one of the least polarizing speeches of his presidency.”
.


He isn't a good benchmark for non-polarising speeches now, is he?


What in his hour long speech did you find to be polarizing?


I didn't say I find it popularizing, did I?

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:17 pm

ltbewr wrote:
Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.

No it doesn't kill legitimate arguments from the majority, when an idiot does something stupid. If that was the case, then the GOP would be destroyed because of Trump.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:24 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
Magog wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:

He isn't a good benchmark for non-polarising speeches now, is he?


What in his hour long speech did you find to be polarizing?


I didn't say I find it popularizing, did I?

Gotcha. I was just confirming that you did not find his speech to be at all polarizing.

It sounds like it was a great day and a great celebration!

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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:01 pm

BN747 wrote:
As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America. Burning the flag for shits n giggles is something than earn one a beatdown, but if this protester was railing against prez Porky and politicizing Independence Day in his flag burn..he's on solid ground. And anyone hitting him are lunatics. Officials arresting him are right to do so as starting a fire in public is a violation of some city ordinance. We currently have a president wiping his ass with the America flag and pissing on the US Constitution on a daily basis...so where are the consequences?


:checkmark: .This. .The Fourth of July has always been a holiday when Americans of all political persuasions can come together and celebrate the foresight our Founding Fathers had when they declared our independence from England as began our great experiment in democracy, human right, and universal freedoms. Presidents in the past have saluted those aspirations, but no President has - until now - sought to make himself the center of attention.

Donald J. Trump is a divisive figure; he has none of the dignity or gravitas many Americans may rightfully expect from their leader, but he does carry the unquestioning adoration of others less concerned with greatness, but more interested in dogma and disruption. It is not something he himself would deny; his political strategy is predicated on riveting himself to his most rabid supporters, and decrying everyone else as unworthy and, in their eyes, "unAmerican". That may work as a political strategy - it did in 2016 - but it is not a winning formula for uniting a nation - or even appealing to a nation on a day of unified national celebration. Thus protesters took offense at his tactics - and that was well withing their rights.

Just as our founders protested the heavy hand of Britain, many Americans object to the intrusion of a heavy-handed wanna-be dictator (just look at his infatuation with Xi, Kim, LiliPutin, and Mohammed bin Salman for examples) into what is rightfully vied as a holiday for every American. It is to his credit that he managed to stay (mostly - except for all those aircraft flying over Fort McHenry) loyal to his script, but his mere determination to make himself the center of attention - and expect adulation for that - was a legitimate reason for protest.

After all, that is what our independence gave us the right to do.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:15 pm

alfa164 wrote:
Just as our founders protested the heavy hand of Britain, many Americans object to the intrusion of a heavy-handed wanna-be dictator (just look at his infatuation with Xi, Kim, LiliPutin, and Mohammed bin Salman for examples) into what is rightfully vied as a holiday for every American. It is to his credit that he managed to stay (mostly - except for all those aircraft flying over Fort McHenry) loyal to his script, but his mere determination to make himself the center of attention - and expect adulation for that - was a legitimate reason for protest.


Precisely - America and celebrations of it are for its people - not POTUS.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:18 pm

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These fly overs are pretty cool. The B2 and AF1 were really cool.


CNN cut to commercial in the middle of the B2 what idiots. The Ospreys were epic too.


Their lead stories today are a royal baptism, a dead billionaire, and Keven Spacey probably getting a pass. Figures.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:20 pm

alfa164 wrote:
BN747 wrote:
As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America. Burning the flag for shits n giggles is something than earn one a beatdown, but if this protester was railing against prez Porky and politicizing Independence Day in his flag burn..he's on solid ground. And anyone hitting him are lunatics. Officials arresting him are right to do so as starting a fire in public is a violation of some city ordinance. We currently have a president wiping his ass with the America flag and pissing on the US Constitution on a daily basis...so where are the consequences?


:checkmark: .This. .The Fourth of July has always been a holiday when Americans of all political persuasions can come together and celebrate the foresight our Founding Fathers had when they declared our independence from England as began our great experiment in democracy, human right, and universal freedoms. Presidents in the past have saluted those aspirations, but no President has - until now - sought to make himself the center of attention.

Donald J. Trump is a divisive figure; he has none of the dignity or gravitas many Americans may rightfully expect from their leader, but he does carry the unquestioning adoration of others less concerned with greatness, but more interested in dogma and disruption. It is not something he himself would deny; his political strategy is predicated on riveting himself to his most rabid supporters, and decrying everyone else as unworthy and, in their eyes, "unAmerican". That may work as a political strategy - it did in 2016 - but it is not a winning formula for uniting a nation - or even appealing to a nation on a day of unified national celebration. Thus protesters took offense at his tactics - and that was well withing their rights.

Just as our founders protested the heavy hand of Britain, many Americans object to the intrusion of a heavy-handed wanna-be dictator (just look at his infatuation with Xi, Kim, LiliPutin, and Mohammed bin Salman for examples) into what is rightfully vied as a holiday for every American. It is to his credit that he managed to stay (mostly - except for all those aircraft flying over Fort McHenry) loyal to his script, but his mere determination to make himself the center of attention - and expect adulation for that - was a legitimate reason for protest.

After all, that is what our independence gave us the right to do.


The liberal media tried to label him the center of attention. They failed miserably. Again.
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:23 pm

ual763 wrote:
BN747 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
Sadly, some Left Wing Nut Case decided to burn an American Flag in front of the White House as a protest against President Trump. Between the Secret Service, and some Trump supporters, he got into a lot of trouble. Although I despise Trump before and since he became and as President, I cannot support this jerk's burning of the Flag. This stupid protester just kills the legit arguments of the Left as to Trump and just feeds the hate lust of Conservatives and Trump.


As a USAF veteran, an a true Patriot (one who loves his country but will not hesitate to criticize it when wrong), burning the flag is acceptable protest because that protest is representative against a greater offense against America.


BN747


Not only does this go completely against everything the Air Force has ever taught, and go against mostly every single code of conduct in it, it is also morally corrupt. Using your service and the sacrifices of others who died for that flag to denigrate and justify the burning of the flag is just wrong. Try that stunt in the Air Force today (or at any time since it’s founding) and your ass would have been thrown out to the curb so quickly, you wouldn’t even have time to know what happened.

P.S. - I find it hilarious you say Trump and the conservatives are the ones who are pissing and stompin all over our constitution. Exactly, what is he pissing on? Last time I checked, it was the Dems that openly called for abolishing certain amendments and clauses in our constitution, whereas Trump is just looking to uphold it... Oh, that’s right, you suffer from TDS, therefore anything Trump does is “against the constitution”.


Yeah, disappointed even further now that I find he’s a fellow Zoomie...
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Re: Trump brings in tanks for 4th of July celebration in Washington DC

Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:31 pm

Magog wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
Magog wrote:
What in his hour long speech did you find to be polarizing?


I didn't say I find it popularizing, did I?

Gotcha. I was just confirming that you did not find his speech to be at all polarizing.

It sounds like it was a great day and a great celebration!

I’m no Trump fan, but, like you, I can admit when he gets something right.


It is not that it was "not polarizing at all" but, rather, the LEAST polarizing speech he has given since moving into the White House.

That says a lot.
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