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Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:12 pm

This just gets better and better! A Bill Clinton appointee federal judge has decided to toss the DNC’s claim that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to hack their servers...the very servers that were never turned over to the FBI to preserve evidence in the case.

“A federal judge in frank terms Tuesday dismissed a lawsuit by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) against key members of the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks over hacked DNC documents, saying they "did not participate in any wrongdoing in obtaining the materials in the first place" and therefore bore no legal liability for disseminating the information.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dnc-la ... -dismissed
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:15 pm

What I love is how nobody can explain to me how Russia really swayed the election into Trumps favor. Or what the excuse will be when Biden loses by the same margin in 2020.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:41 am

Huge win for Trump. Combine that with the SDNY declining to bring any indictments and Trump is having a great run.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:44 am

Here is an article not from the right wing propaganda machine

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... ussia-over

with an interesting statement from the Clinton appointed judge

while the DNC pointed to a number of contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russians, it failed to provide evidence that the figures assisted in the hacking of the Democrats' servers.

So, the Clinton appointed judge agrees Russia and team MAGA worked together but team MAGA did not hack anything. Simple wording error on behalf of the DNC.

*grabs popcorn*
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:06 am

What strikes me most by the OP, not another Trump thread or some other points, we have heard them all before and it to no consequence to the real world - just more reenforcing believes from either side, but this: "Clinton appointed judge"

You are saying that you do not live in a rule of law and that is quite sad, you do not believe your own judges.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:41 am

The case got tossed because there was no evidence to support the claims. It’s nice to see justice rather than mob rule.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:54 pm

seb146 wrote:
Here is an article not from the right wing propaganda machine

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... ussia-over

with an interesting statement from the Clinton appointed judge

while the DNC pointed to a number of contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russians, it failed to provide evidence that the figures assisted in the hacking of the Democrats' servers.

So, the Clinton appointed judge agrees Russia and team MAGA worked together but team MAGA did not hack anything. Simple wording error on behalf of the DNC.

*grabs popcorn*


It's not illegal to talk to a Russian. You can even travel there if you want. Delta flew there not too long ago.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:06 pm

Dutchy wrote:
You are saying that you do not live in a rule of law and that is quite sad, you do not believe your own judges.


...because many times we have seen American judges not upholding the law but put their personal opinion first.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:17 pm

The judge is a Carter appointed, which should tell you just how frivolous a case it must have been.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:49 pm

afcjets wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Here is an article not from the right wing propaganda machine

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... ussia-over

with an interesting statement from the Clinton appointed judge

while the DNC pointed to a number of contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russians, it failed to provide evidence that the figures assisted in the hacking of the Democrats' servers.

So, the Clinton appointed judge agrees Russia and team MAGA worked together but team MAGA did not hack anything. Simple wording error on behalf of the DNC.

*grabs popcorn*


It's not illegal to talk to a Russian. You can even travel there if you want. Delta flew there not too long ago.


It is, however, illegal to talk to a Russian about dirt they have on a political opponent. That is the whole point.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:43 pm

seb146 wrote:

It is, however, illegal to talk to a Russian about dirt they have on a political opponent. That is the whole point.


Can you identify the specific law that you are referring to? Does this law single out Russians specifically? Or is it broader to include any foreign nationals?

Mike Drop
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:52 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
You are saying that you do not live in a rule of law and that is quite sad, you do not believe your own judges.


...because many times we have seen American judges not upholding the law but put their personal opinion first.


I understand, but that undermines the trust in the justice system, it shouldn't matter which judge is appointed to your case. Judges should be appointed without political influence, in my view.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:16 pm

MikeDrop wrote:
seb146 wrote:

It is, however, illegal to talk to a Russian about dirt they have on a political opponent. That is the whole point.


Can you identify the specific law that you are referring to? Does this law single out Russians specifically? Or is it broader to include any foreign nationals?

Mike Drop


C'mon, man... Do some homework. Better yet

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/07/63642358 ... n-research

The law prohibits, as a baseline point, foreign nationals from attempting to influence elections with any kind of spending. And that includes spending for anything of value to a campaign. It also prohibits campaigns from aiding them in the effort to influence an election or soliciting that support.

"THE LAW prohibits...." Seems pretty clear to the rest of us....

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... ch-russia/
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:24 pm

seb146 wrote:
MikeDrop wrote:
seb146 wrote:

It is, however, illegal to talk to a Russian about dirt they have on a political opponent. That is the whole point.


Can you identify the specific law that you are referring to? Does this law single out Russians specifically? Or is it broader to include any foreign nationals?

Mike Drop


C'mon, man... Do some homework. Better yet

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/07/63642358 ... n-research

The law prohibits, as a baseline point, foreign nationals from attempting to influence elections with any kind of spending. And that includes spending for anything of value to a campaign. It also prohibits campaigns from aiding them in the effort to influence an election or soliciting that support.

"THE LAW prohibits...." Seems pretty clear to the rest of us....

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... ch-russia/

I'm struggling to see where, in what you quoted, merely talking to a Russian about dirt they may have on an opponent is illegal.
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:41 pm

The DNC might of had a case, but they forgot about this pesky little thing called "evidence". Common mistake for them, I guess
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:01 pm

I think the more interesting tidbit here is that all the MAGA boys are jumping for joy in this thread and chest-bumping each other because they’ve really got nothing else positive to talk about re: the Racist-in-Chief.

Enjoy, fellas!
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:07 pm

johnboy wrote:
I think the more interesting tidbit here is that all the MAGA boys are jumping for joy in this thread and chest-bumping each other because they’ve really got nothing else positive to talk about re: the Racist-in-Chief.

Enjoy, fellas!

These colossal failures by the Democrats are sweet, that’s for sure.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:16 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
You are saying that you do not live in a rule of law and that is quite sad, you do not believe your own judges.


...because many times we have seen American judges not upholding the law but put their personal opinion first.


I understand, but that undermines the trust in the justice system, it shouldn't matter which judge is appointed to your case. Judges should be appointed without political influence, in my view.


Good luck with that :D
Why do you think the GOP was hellbent on getting Kavanaugh appointed? It’s ALL political.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:46 pm

Dutchy wrote:
What strikes me most by the OP, not another Trump thread or some other points, we have heard them all before and it to no consequence to the real world - just more reenforcing believes from either side, but this: "Clinton appointed judge"

You are saying that you do not live in a rule of law and that is quite sad, you do not believe your own judges.


Kind of like that whole "Not my President" thing, eh?
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:48 pm

johnboy wrote:
I think the more interesting tidbit here is that all the MAGA boys are jumping for joy in this thread and chest-bumping each other because they’ve really got nothing else positive to talk about re: the Racist-in-Chief.

Enjoy, fellas!


I am far from a Trump humper but this was a massive stupid act by the DNC. Maybe put together a better case next time?

Take your rose-colored partisan goggles off, you'll see the world for what it truly is.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:09 am

All team MAGA has to celebrate is this lawsuit was worded wrong. Failed immigration policy (see: kids in dog cages) failed domestic policy (see: farmers not able to harvest anything) failed international policy (see: Iran, DPRK, NATO) failed health care policy (see: no alternative at all) failed education policy (see: Betsy DeVos) failure after failure. But, hey, at least this one lawsuit failed! Big win! COVFEFE!!!
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:29 am

NoTime wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
What strikes me most by the OP, not another Trump thread or some other points, we have heard them all before and it to no consequence to the real world - just more reenforcing believes from either side, but this: "Clinton appointed judge"

You are saying that you do not live in a rule of law and that is quite sad, you do not believe your own judges.


Kind of like that whole "Not my President" thing, eh?


Indeed, President Trump is not my president, you are correct.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:04 pm

seb146 wrote:
All team MAGA has to celebrate is this lawsuit was worded wrong.

Interesting. It was dismissed simply because it was worded incorrectly? Even I assumed that the incompetence on the part of the Democrats was not quite that bad. That's even more embarrassing than I had realized.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:47 pm

seb146 wrote:
afcjets wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Here is an article not from the right wing propaganda machine

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... ussia-over

with an interesting statement from the Clinton appointed judge

while the DNC pointed to a number of contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russians, it failed to provide evidence that the figures assisted in the hacking of the Democrats' servers.

So, the Clinton appointed judge agrees Russia and team MAGA worked together but team MAGA did not hack anything. Simple wording error on behalf of the DNC.

*grabs popcorn*


It's not illegal to talk to a Russian. You can even travel there if you want. Delta flew there not too long ago.


It is, however, illegal to talk to a Russian about dirt they have on a political opponent. That is the whole point.


So, like all that opposition research Clinton paid for right?
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:28 pm

DL717 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
afcjets wrote:

It's not illegal to talk to a Russian. You can even travel there if you want. Delta flew there not too long ago.


It is, however, illegal to talk to a Russian about dirt they have on a political opponent. That is the whole point.


So, like all that opposition research Clinton paid for right?


More desparation. More "But Hillary" and "both sides do it so let's praise dear leader".

nope. nope. aaaaaand nope.

The difference is Hillary played by the rules. Unlike the occupant of the White House. Your god lies, cheats, and steals and you applaud it and demand more of the same. This is who he is. This is who he surrounds himself with. If the best come back you have is "but Hillary" maybe you should rethink your support for your candidate.

Let me issue a challenge to not only you, DL, but to all Republicans on this board. From now on, try to support the golfer in chief using only examples he has given. From now on, stop pointing to Hillary and Democrats as excuses why you support who you support.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:37 pm

How quickly we forget Mueller’s finding of no conspiracy with Trump’s campaign and Russia.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:26 pm

seb146 wrote:
The difference is Hillary played by the rules.


Show me where she was allowed to use a personal server for classified documents. If she played by the rules, why was the DNC in the bag to knock Bernie off? If she played by the rules, why did she have to have an email shredding party? But she isn't in the WH is she? Ask Haitians what their opinion of her is. How did she arrange to sell 20% of our uranium stocks to the Russians? Collusion on her part? Nah.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:32 am

VTKillarney wrote:
How quickly we forget Mueller’s finding of no conspiracy with Trump’s campaign and Russia.


Try again. It was that, as independent council, he was not tasked with finding conspiracy. He never said it never happened. Just that was not his job.
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:36 am

extender wrote:
seb146 wrote:
The difference is Hillary played by the rules.


Show me where she was allowed to use a personal server for classified documents. If she played by the rules, why was the DNC in the bag to knock Bernie off? If she played by the rules, why did she have to have an email shredding party? But she isn't in the WH is she? Ask Haitians what their opinion of her is. How did she arrange to sell 20% of our uranium stocks to the Russians? Collusion on her part? Nah.


Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie The precedent was there.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... illary-did

Not that it matters since you can not defend the occupant of the White House........
 
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Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:59 am

seb146 wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
How quickly we forget Mueller’s finding of no conspiracy with Trump’s campaign and Russia.


Try again. It was that, as independent council, he was not tasked with finding conspiracy. He never said it never happened. Just that was not his job.

Right. Total exoneration. A huge win for Trump.

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