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Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:23 pm

Do you think that we will ever see a full scale Titanic replica constructed for static use at the Titanic Museum in Belfast as I feel that it would attract more American tourists to visit Belfast. Also, replica ships of the Mayflower, Santa Maria, and Amistad have already been constructed.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:27 pm

Doubtful. You may see portions constructed, but likely not the entirety. The scale is much bigger to the three other ships you mentioned.

Whatever happened to the Australian reproduction?
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:30 pm

The Australian production is not happening at this time, but there is a full scale replica of the Titanic being built in China that will be floating inland.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:25 pm

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Also, replica ships of the Mayflower, Santa Maria, and Amistad have already been constructed.


Those are tiny ships, less than 200 tons and 30 meters in length. Titanic was a beast at over 50.000 tons and 270 meters in length. A replica needs constant maintenance, beating rust away and painting the hull. Needs to be drydocked too.

There is just no way it makes financial sense to build such a massive white horse.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:08 am

VSMUT wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
Also, replica ships of the Mayflower, Santa Maria, and Amistad have already been constructed.


Those are tiny ships, less than 200 tons and 30 meters in length. Titanic was a beast at over 50.000 tons and 270 meters in length. A replica needs constant maintenance, beating rust away and painting the hull. Needs to be drydocked too.

There is just no way it makes financial sense to build such a massive white horse.

There is a full scale Titanic replica being built in Sichuan province in China called the Romandisea Titanic.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:26 am

What I'm surprised at is that no one's built a full-scale replica of Titanic as a Las Vegas resort-casino.

The Grand Staircase would lead to the casino floor; waitresses could wear... um... swimwear...
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:17 am

Wont be happening in Belfast there is currently no room to build it around the Titanic quarter and no support for such a project. The museum is doing very well since opening ironically especially with cruise ship passengers who visit the exhibits in their thousands. Considering the cost involved also it would be a non runner .
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:09 am

Airstud wrote:
What I'm surprised at is that no one's built a full-scale replica of Titanic as a Las Vegas resort-casino.

The Grand Staircase would lead to the casino floor; waitresses could wear... um... swimwear...


A massive ship that unluckily sank on it's maiden voyage wouldn't seem to be a great theme for as expensive an undertaking as a casino. Also the current trend in casinos is de-theming or homogenization as seen with Treasure Island getting rid of it's famous pirate ship and Luxor substantially toning down it's Egyptian theme. Even the Peppermill in Reno has traded it's iconic neon, black mirrors, and Day-Glo carpet look for a much more drab and generic faux-Tuscan theme.
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:12 am

I wonder if they could lay bricks or steel rail in the outline of Titanic? Maybe a smoke stack hanging above to show how tall she was?
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:27 am

Airstud wrote:
What I'm surprised at is that no one's built a full-scale replica of Titanic as a Las Vegas resort-casino.

The Grand Staircase would lead to the casino floor; waitresses could wear... um... swimwear...


Bob Stupak talked about building one a couple of years after he lost control of the Straatospheere, He bought a couple of motels on Las Vgeas Blvd between Sahara and Charleston for redevelopment, but suffered some pretty bad injuries in a motorcycle crash, that pretty much ended the idea.

When it comes down to it, the floor plan of an ocean liner and a Vegas casino don't really match up to well, you could of course build a replica of one side and have it act as the front of the building in much the same way the Holiday Inn/Harrahs did until the last remodel in the early 90's.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:30 am

Gamblers are very superstitious. There is no way that a Titanic casino would ever be built.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:58 am

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Gamblers are very superstitious. There is no way that a Titanic casino would ever be built.


Think so there buddy? All the times i've been in LAS (That's airplane speak for Las Vegas, don't ever see you in the civil aviation area, weird huh) All I have seen are elderly people with a dart in one hand and a PBR in the other, mindlessly stuffing dollars into a machine. Don't see much superstition or voodoo going on there.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:44 am

VTKillarney wrote:
Gamblers are very superstitious. There is no way that a Titanic casino would ever be built.


I know there are all kinds of gambling games in LAS but, honestly, I do not think I have seen what the casino floor looks like at Venitian, Caesars Palace, Mirage, Treasure Island, Mandalay Bay, or Excalabur. The only reason I remember MGM and New York New York casinos is we had to walk through them to get to the good stuff: Monorail station at MGM and the roller coaster at NYNY.
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:38 am

AirplaneFixer wrote:
Magog wrote:
Gamblers are very superstitious. There is no way that a Titanic casino would ever be built.


Think so there buddy? All the times i've been in LAS (That's airplane speak for Las Vegas, don't ever see you in the civil aviation area, weird huh) All I have seen are elderly people with a dart in one hand and a PBR in the other, mindlessly stuffing dollars into a machine. Don't see much superstition or voodoo going on there.

I’m not sure what your point is. Are you trying to convince me that gamblers are NOT superstitious?
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:40 am

must be build in scale 5:1 (not 1:5)
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:05 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Do you think that we will ever see a full scale Titanic replica constructed for static use at the Titanic Museum in Belfast as I feel that it would attract more American tourists to visit Belfast. Also, replica ships of the Mayflower, Santa Maria, and Amistad have already been constructed.


Tourists are already flooding in every year, especially from North America and the far East, but yeah the scale of the ship would be a problem. There are already original relics near to the museum/construction site, like the SS Nomadic, which transported passengers (including the 'Unsinkable' Molly Brown) to the ship when it made a stop in France, as well as an artistic 'Airfix kit' style model of the Titanic, it's pretty cool!

seb146 wrote:
I wonder if they could lay bricks or steel rail in the outline of Titanic? Maybe a smoke stack hanging above to show how tall she was?


The former idea already exists. You can walk along the slipway at the back of the museum, literally the spot where the ship was built, and the size, markings and key shapes like the funnels are drawn onto the ground, as if from a birds eye view. As for the height, the museum is the same height as the hull of the ship, and thanks to it's artistic 4-bow design, it kinda looks the same..kinda.

As for the Grand Staircase, an exact replica is inside the museum, but only accessible if going there for afternoon tea or for a private dinner function (probably weddings too!)
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:22 pm

ArchGuy1 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
Also, replica ships of the Mayflower, Santa Maria, and Amistad have already been constructed.


Those are tiny ships, less than 200 tons and 30 meters in length. Titanic was a beast at over 50.000 tons and 270 meters in length. A replica needs constant maintenance, beating rust away and painting the hull. Needs to be drydocked too.

There is just no way it makes financial sense to build such a massive white horse.

There is a full scale Titanic replica being built in Sichuan province in China called the Romandisea Titanic.


A vaguely Titanic shaped barge from the country of a million failed property investments? Not really an example to follow.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:50 pm

VTKillarney wrote:
AirplaneFixer wrote:
Magog wrote:
Gamblers are very superstitious. There is no way that a Titanic casino would ever be built.


Think so there buddy? All the times i've been in LAS (That's airplane speak for Las Vegas, don't ever see you in the civil aviation area, weird huh) All I have seen are elderly people with a dart in one hand and a PBR in the other, mindlessly stuffing dollars into a machine. Don't see much superstition or voodoo going on there.

I’m not sure what your point is. Are you trying to convince me that gamblers are NOT superstitious?


I’d be more to call it rituals, which I’m sure you would be keen to misidentify as superstition. Let me put it in a way you could understand. Say you have a poster here who posts strictly in one area, on one subject matter, nowhere else. So all of a sudden said poster disappears and returns with a different screen name yet posts in the exact areas as their previous screen name. They are using a ritual, changing but not really. Hope this helps you!
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:56 pm

AirplaneFixer wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
AirplaneFixer wrote:

Think so there buddy? All the times i've been in LAS (That's airplane speak for Las Vegas, don't ever see you in the civil aviation area, weird huh) All I have seen are elderly people with a dart in one hand and a PBR in the other, mindlessly stuffing dollars into a machine. Don't see much superstition or voodoo going on there.

I’m not sure what your point is. Are you trying to convince me that gamblers are NOT superstitious?


I’d be more to call it rituals, which I’m sure you would be keen to misidentify as superstition. Let me put it in a way you could understand. Say you have a poster here who posts strictly in one area, on one subject matter, nowhere else. So all of a sudden said poster disappears and returns with a different screen name yet posts in the exact areas as their previous screen name. They are using a ritual, changing but not really. Hope this helps you!

I still don't understand what your point is. I said that gamblers are superstitious. Studies back that up.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn ... ous-bunch/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10. ... ode=rigs20
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 083301.htm
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:49 pm

Magog wrote:
AirplaneFixer wrote:
Magog wrote:
I’m not sure what your point is. Are you trying to convince me that gamblers are NOT superstitious?


I’d be more to call it rituals, which I’m sure you would be keen to misidentify as superstition. Let me put it in a way you could understand. Say you have a poster here who posts strictly in one area, on one subject matter, nowhere else. So all of a sudden said poster disappears and returns with a different screen name yet posts in the exact areas as their previous screen name. They are using a ritual, changing but not really. Hope this helps you!

I still don't understand what your point is. I said that gamblers are superstitious. Studies back that up.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn ... ous-bunch/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10. ... ode=rigs20
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 083301.htm


Oh my friend, you absolutely know what my point is. Rituals ;)
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:52 pm

AirplaneFixer wrote:
Magog wrote:
AirplaneFixer wrote:

I’d be more to call it rituals, which I’m sure you would be keen to misidentify as superstition. Let me put it in a way you could understand. Say you have a poster here who posts strictly in one area, on one subject matter, nowhere else. So all of a sudden said poster disappears and returns with a different screen name yet posts in the exact areas as their previous screen name. They are using a ritual, changing but not really. Hope this helps you!

I still don't understand what your point is. I said that gamblers are superstitious. Studies back that up.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn ... ous-bunch/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10. ... ode=rigs20
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 083301.htm


Oh my friend, you absolutely know what my point is. Rituals ;)

People who are superstitious often have ritualistic behaviors. None of that changes the fact that associating the Titanic with a casino would dissuade many superstitious gamblers from entering the casino.
 
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:16 pm

VSMUT wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
Also, replica ships of the Mayflower, Santa Maria, and Amistad have already been constructed.


Those are tiny ships, less than 200 tons and 30 meters in length. Titanic was a beast at over 50.000 tons and 270 meters in length. A replica needs constant maintenance, beating rust away and painting the hull. Needs to be drydocked too.

There is just no way it makes financial sense to build such a massive white horse.


I wish a cruise line or one of the mega billionaires would take building a replica Titanic on however I think the appeal would not last long based on the amenities that modern cruise ships offer that the Titanic could not.
Based on Gross Tonnage it is about 1/3 to 1/2 the size of modern cruise ships so a replica with modern technology is feasible but probably not profitable over the long term.
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Re: Possibility of Titanic Replica in Belfast

Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:27 pm

StarAC17 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
Also, replica ships of the Mayflower, Santa Maria, and Amistad have already been constructed.


Those are tiny ships, less than 200 tons and 30 meters in length. Titanic was a beast at over 50.000 tons and 270 meters in length. A replica needs constant maintenance, beating rust away and painting the hull. Needs to be drydocked too.

There is just no way it makes financial sense to build such a massive white horse.


I wish a cruise line or one of the mega billionaires would take building a replica Titanic on however I think the appeal would not last long based on the amenities that modern cruise ships offer that the Titanic could not.


But why? The only claim to fame the Titanic has is the sinking. If not for that, it would have been completely unremarkable. You never really heard about the sisters, did you? Or Imperator, Vaterland and Leviathan that were completed only a year or 2 later, and exceeded Titanic in size. Nobody ever proposes to build a new Mauretania or Lusitania.

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