johns624
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Re: Can, or will, the SS United States be used again?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:39 am

Kiwirob wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Aurantiaco wrote:
True, but a possible use could be floating barracks for soldiers being delivered to their ships or bases, and in this case this hypothetical ship might be able to guide sea missions from its position. Just a thought.
That's what planes are for. The military hasn't used ships for transporting men overseas in decades.


Better tell that to the Marines they got a lot of places using the gator navy.
The Marines are deployed on amphibious warfare ships. They stay on the ships unless somewhere needs assaulting. They don't use ships for transferring soldiers to bases, etc.
 
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Re: Can, or will, the SS United States be used again?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:43 am

What the SS United States needs is to be the pet project of a billionaire whose interest is purely emotional, who has the cash to sink into it and no expectation of a strong ROI. That's the only way I see the liner being saved unfortunately.
 
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Re: Can, or will, the SS United States be used again?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:20 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Maybe as a hotel and museum ship in either New York City or Newport News.


All it would take is money, between $700,000,000 and $1,000,000,000 at last estimate.

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Also, since asbestos has been removed, the SS United States would be easier and cheaper to convert and restore than it if it's interiors were intact.


Fair point. Since the interior is already stripped, it would be somewhat easier to make the structural changes required by code in order to use the ship as a hotel and/or museum.

ArchGuy1 wrote:
The SS United States is also in good condition


Whoa, whoa, WHOA, wait just a minute there! Just because the SS United States hasn't developed a significant list or had above-deck structures like smokestacks start to collapse in on themselves should in no way be taken to mean she is "in good condition". She was stripped of her fittings in 1994 and towed to where she is now in 1996, so that is 23 years of neglect to contend with, and that amount of time without maintenance will take a heavy toll on any ship but especially a large one with numerous points of entry for both water and wildlife. As an example that is common in abandoned buildings, how many six foot tall or taller piles of pigeon poop are there on board underneath places where pigeons have been roosting undisturbed for the last 23 years? That the SS United States hasn't sunk yet on it's own is a fine testament to the quality of it's original construction, but by no stretch of the imagination is she "in good condition".

ArchGuy1 wrote:
and was not structurally changed like the Queen Mary when that ship was converted in Long Beach.


Meaning that the SS United States would definitely have to have structural changes before she could be converted to a hotel/museum.
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Re: Can, or will, the SS United States be used again?

Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:12 pm

RXR Realty is doing a feasibility study on the SS United States for use as a static attraction in I suspect New York City. Possible locations that I can think of include Red Hook in Brooklyn or Pier 57 in the Chelsea District of Manhattan.

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