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Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:10 am
by DIRECTFLT
Biden Names His Favorite ‘Non-President’ Political Figures: Thomas Jefferson And JFK….

Perhaps this explains why they were trying to keep his appearances to a minimum

https://www.weaselzippers.us/428678-bid ... n-and-jfk/

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:15 am
by LittleSprocket
DIRECTFLT wrote:
Biden Names His Favorite ‘Non-President’ Political Figures: Thomas Jefferson And JFK….

Perhaps this explains why they were trying to keep his appearances to a minimum

https://www.weaselzippers.us/428678-bid ... n-and-jfk/


Just listening to him during the debates as well as all his recent gaffes it really does appear that he is getting dementia.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:19 am
by stl07
You all sound like the people in civil aviation going "I heard AUS is getting a BOM flight because they are both growing cities, and AUS doesn't have a subcontinent flight yet, and the airport director of AUS was recently on the new talking about incentives for a new international flight "

Stop spreading BS rumors from circumstantial evidence


I'm no Biden supporter, I have yet to make up my mind, but come on

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:29 am
by Aaron747
LittleSprocket wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
Biden Names His Favorite ‘Non-President’ Political Figures: Thomas Jefferson And JFK….

Perhaps this explains why they were trying to keep his appearances to a minimum

https://www.weaselzippers.us/428678-bid ... n-and-jfk/


Just listening to him during the debates as well as all his recent gaffes it really does appear that he is getting dementia.


His symptoms appear similar to 45’s in some respects. Perhaps Biden doesn’t have a prescription for Adderall and that’s the difference.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:42 am
by Super80Fan
Why are the Democrats actively TRYING to lose the 2020 election? A lot of us, even some on the right want Trump gone and here the Democrats are handing it to Trump and the GOP on a silver platter.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:00 am
by DIRECTFLT
It Turns Out Joe Biden Is Still A Never-Ending Gaffe Machine

If Biden doesn't tighten up his mental composure quick, more and more Democrats will wonder if he's worth the risk

https://freebeacon.com/politics/it-turn ... e-machine/

Liberal Vox writer David Roberts perhaps put it best on Twitter yesterday. "Dems have another few months to laugh about these kinds of gaffes," he tweeted. "Then they're going to be forced to defend them at a roughly one-per-day pace throughout the entire race." If Biden doesn't tighten up his mental composure quick, more and more Democrats will wonder if he's worth the risk.

Joe Biden would be 78 when he took office in Jan. of 2021... In the unlikely event he won in a race against the younger DJT, who gets younger all the time!!

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:39 am
by Aaron747
DIRECTFLT wrote:
It Turns Out Joe Biden Is Still A Never-Ending Gaffe Machine

If Biden doesn't tighten up his mental composure quick, more and more Democrats will wonder if he's worth the risk

https://freebeacon.com/politics/it-turn ... e-machine/

Liberal Vox writer David Roberts perhaps put it best on Twitter yesterday. "Dems have another few months to laugh about these kinds of gaffes," he tweeted. "Then they're going to be forced to defend them at a roughly one-per-day pace throughout the entire race." If Biden doesn't tighten up his mental composure quick, more and more Democrats will wonder if he's worth the risk.

Joe Biden would be 78 when he took office in Jan. of 2021... In the unlikely event he won in a race against the younger DJT, who gets younger all the time!!


Not so fast with the silly hyperbole. In addition to poor grasp of simple factual information, if you compare 45 now to video of him speaking 10 years ago, there is a marked decrease in his vocabulary range and diction. He is observably on the decline.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:40 am
by petertenthije
Speaking as an outsider, it could be fun to start a betting pool on who will make more gaffs. My bet would still be on Trump, but it would be a close race.

Thing is, Biden tends to make gaffe’s, while maintaining his endearing character. Trump makes gaffes and alienates large chunks of the electorate.

Should Biden be chosen as front runner, which I doubt, he’ll get the ful weight of the republican war machine directed at him. I wonder if Biden can maintain his charm when constantly attacked for anything that goes slightly wrong (and a lot that’s simply made up, we all know how the process works)

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:50 am
by EA CO AS
Here’s the problem; every Democratic candidate believes they’ve got a real shot at beating Trump in the general election, so their only thing stopping them from becoming the next president is, well, each other!

Therefore, you’ll see all the major Dem candidates and even a few minor ones furiously trying to take the others down, firing off every strategy and attack possible in the process, until one is left standing, possibly taking on another as a VP candidate along the way.

But the damage will have been done, and you’ll see a bloodied and beaten Dem candidate limp into the general election, one who is either too far left for the mainstream of the party, or too centrist for the far left of the party. Either way, they won’t appeal to the entire Democratic base and the flaws exposed during the primaries will be easy targets for the Trump campaign to exploit as they sit back and watch the Dems do the heavy lifting for them.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:42 am
by petertenthije
EA CO AS wrote:
Here’s the problem; every Democratic candidate believes they’ve got a real shot at beating Trump in the general election, so their only thing stopping them from becoming the next president is, well, each other!

Therefore, you’ll see all the major Dem candidates and even a few minor ones furiously trying to take the others down, firing off every strategy and attack possible in the process, until one is left standing, possibly taking on another as a VP candidate along the way.

But the damage will have been done, and you’ll see a bloodied and beaten Dem candidate limp into the general election, one who is either too far left for the mainstream of the party, or too centrist for the far left of the party. Either way, they won’t appeal to the entire Democratic base and the flaws exposed during the primaries will be easy targets for the Trump campaign to exploit as they sit back and watch the Dems do the heavy lifting for them.
Don’t bet on it. What we see now is the same as the republican primaries that gave us president Trump.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:40 pm
by ltbewr
Hopefully by and after the next Democratic Party debate in late September, the field will be substantially narrowed including Biden out of the running.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:13 pm
by sierrakilo44
Super80Fan wrote:
Why are the Democrats actively TRYING to lose the 2020 election? A lot of us, even some on the right want Trump gone and here the Democrats are handing it to Trump and the GOP on a silver platter.


Not all Democrats. Whilst some are trying to hog the limelight for their well scripted debate sound bites, some are actually articulating policies to help the American people.

Here’s one going onto an alternate media platform to express their beliefs, and receiving a lot of praise from otherwise non political viewers as a result:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2O-iLk1G_ng

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:22 pm
by aerorobnz
The candidates should be on Biden's side as they will take over as VP when he expires/becomes too senile for office. I think this will play on the minds of many if Biden is the nominee as they won't want to bring in a regressive left VP on his coat tails.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:51 pm
by slider
petertenthije wrote:
Speaking as an outsider, it could be fun to start a betting pool on who will make more gaffs. My bet would still be on Trump, but it would be a close race.

Thing is, Biden tends to make gaffe’s, while maintaining his endearing character.


Endearing?

How's that? A blueblood who still pretends to be a blue collar Pennsylvanis boy...good old Uncle Joe, right? What a load of horseshit. And he's a creepy sexual predator too.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:12 pm
by seb146
Everybody calm down. The Democratic National Convention is still nearly a year out....

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:55 pm
by FTMCPIUS
seb146 wrote:
Everybody calm down. The Democratic National Convention is still nearly a year out....

Exactly. What harm can another 300-400 gaffes do? :roll:

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:43 pm
by EstherLouise
The difference between Biden's and Trump's gaffes: Biden's are spontaneous. Trump's are written for him.... as evidenced by the inclusion of "airports" in that speech and him looking squarely at the teleprompter..

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:39 pm
by einsteinboricua
Super80Fan wrote:
Why are the Democrats actively TRYING to lose the 2020 election? A lot of us, even some on the right want Trump gone and here the Democrats are handing it to Trump and the GOP on a silver platter.

Why is it that Democrats are the ones that have to defeat Trump? Republicans should only be too happy to primary Trump. After all, they use primaries for when someone doesn't follow the party line. Talk about being lazy. Clean up your house first; don't expect Democrats to do it for you.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:42 pm
by Super80Fan
einsteinboricua wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
Why are the Democrats actively TRYING to lose the 2020 election? A lot of us, even some on the right want Trump gone and here the Democrats are handing it to Trump and the GOP on a silver platter.

Why is it that Democrats are the ones that have to defeat Trump? Republicans should only be too happy to primary Trump. After all, they use primaries for when someone doesn't follow the party line. Talk about being lazy. Clean up your house first; don't expect Democrats to do it for you.


The GOP at this point is a lost cause. The Democrats don't have to be but they sure are trying to lose what should be an easy election.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:43 pm
by einsteinboricua
Oh my goodness. Biden mentioned that his favorite non-presidential figures were JFK and Jefferson. Well, I guess the one who says that the battle of 1812 was brilliantly fought by taking over the airports, and also brought us the wonderful world of covfefe and apparently Americanized his Slovenian wife to "Melanie" is clearly the stable genius in the room.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:26 pm
by LittleFokker
If Biden is the nominee, it will be 2004 all over again. Dems nominated the experienced but unexciting John Kerry against an unpopular President who originally lost the popular vote in an environment that was favorable for them. Why can't the party learn its damn lesson?

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:47 pm
by stratclub
Super80Fan wrote:
Why are the Democrats actively TRYING to lose the 2020 election? A lot of us, even some on the right want Trump gone and here the Democrats are handing it to Trump and the GOP on a silver platter.

No kidding. They could at least put their dukes up and pretend to fight. Orange Man is going to destroy Sleepy Joe if he wins the nomination. I think he is one of the least radical candidates which in spite of his onset dementia, would appeal to the most Demo Mainstream voters.

What's the Democratic platform? Hint:They don't have one that benefits "We the People." I don't think Orange Man bad, wide open borders and free stuff will carry the day. in 2020.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:48 pm
by BestWestern
Ah yes, the republican playbook... ‘ill’

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:08 pm
by DarkSnowyNight
EA CO AS wrote:
Here’s the problem; every Democratic candidate believes they’ve got a real shot at beating Trump in the general election, so their only thing stopping them from becoming the next president is, well, each other!

Therefore, you’ll see all the major Dem candidates and even a few minor ones furiously trying to take the others down, firing off every strategy and attack possible in the process, until one is left standing, possibly taking on another as a VP candidate along the way.

And what? Water's wet? You're outlining the history and purpose of every primary there's ever been. Nothing new there.

EA CO AS wrote:

But the damage will have been done, and you’ll see a bloodied and beaten Dem candidate limp into the general election, one who is either too far left for the mainstream of the party, or too centrist for the far left of the party. Either way, they won’t appeal to the entire Democratic base and the flaws exposed during the primaries will be easy targets for the Trump campaign to exploit as they sit back and watch the Dems do the heavy lifting for them.



I doubt that. Forsaking the obvious popular vote beat-down he sustained in '16, it's worth noting that none of the states that swung the EV in his favor were won with any significant percentages. Hillary left us with a ton of voter apathy and an assumption that she would win. Both of which combined to form a toxic cocktail of low-voter turnout and third party Ullage votes. Trump certainly has no hope of scoring that sort of lagna-pipe again.

It's not impossible for him to win (especially if, hell forbid, some shit-pipe like Klobuchar gets nominated). But he's going have to work harder than he ever has for anything to make it happen.


slider wrote:
And he's a creepy sexual predator too.


Oh. Well then just vote for whomever the GOP nominates that isn't one. It's OK, I'm sure you'll have plenty to choose from.




Aaron747 wrote:
Not so fast with the silly hyperbole. In addition to poor grasp of simple factual information, if you compare 45 now to video of him speaking 10 years ago, there is a marked decrease in his vocabulary range and diction. He is observably on the decline.


Indeed. At the rate he's going, I don't see him even living that long into his retirement; if he makes it to 2021 or 22, that will be something. This sort of breakdown can be very progressive, and despite what we like to say, it's not as though he's been in a low-stress position the last few years.

My comments, though, shouldn't be mistaken for concern for the man of any kind. I have none.

einsteinboricua wrote:
Slovenian wife to "Melanie" is clearly the stable genius in the room.


Sure. In fairness, marrying that Lamp in the place of a functional woman probably wasn't a bad call. Even before the presidency, it's not as though his position in life would have been all that conducive to having a back seat driver around.


LittleFokker wrote:
If Biden is the nominee, it will be 2004 all over again. Dems nominated the experienced but unexciting John Kerry against an unpopular President who originally lost the popular vote in an environment that was favorable for them. Why can't the party learn its damn lesson?


Because there's no lesson. Primaries are designed specifically to temp-test the direction of the party at large. Right now, we have Biden and Kamala on one side (uninspiring & downright awful IOW), and the rest of the campy joke candidates on the other. For the latter, we have a long time to refine and bring forward something suitable before the actual votes and caucuses come in. But, if by Super Tuesday, we're still somehow in a position where we looking at who can out-fantasize the rest, then yeah, you can count on a Biden or Kamala nomination.

That would be terrible, obviously, but we'd have the advantages of being able to look back at '16 and the hazards that apathy can bring forward.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:29 pm
by EA CO AS
DarkSnowyNight wrote:
EA CO AS wrote:
Here’s the problem; every Democratic candidate believes they’ve got a real shot at beating Trump in the general election, so their only thing stopping them from becoming the next president is, well, each other!

Therefore, you’ll see all the major Dem candidates and even a few minor ones furiously trying to take the others down, firing off every strategy and attack possible in the process, until one is left standing, possibly taking on another as a VP candidate along the way.

And what? Water's wet? You're outlining the history and purpose of every primary there's ever been. Nothing new there.



Oh spare me, you and I both know that in times past, there have been candidates who knew they had a snowball's chance in hell of winning, yet their sense of pride, duty, whatever, compelled them to run even though they knew they didn't have a shot.

That's totally different for the Dem field right now; they all think they're a few good primaries away from the nomination, and a cakewalk on Election Day. And so they're fighting each other tooth and nail.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:37 pm
by seb146
FTMCPIUS wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Everybody calm down. The Democratic National Convention is still nearly a year out....

Exactly. What harm can another 300-400 gaffes do? :roll:


That's what I mean: There are like 50 people running for the Democratic nomination. Joe Biden is not a serious candidate IMO because he is stuck in the early 2000s. He is still riding on his Obama ties. He will not be the nominee. Partly because of what he has been saying but, mostly because of his stand on the issues.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:29 pm
by NIKV69
Everybody knew what they were getting with Biden. Especially when it became known he was the only electable candidate in the party. This is not really news.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:27 pm
by tommy1808
FTMCPIUS wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Everybody calm down. The Democratic National Convention is still nearly a year out....

Exactly. What harm can another 300-400 gaffes do? :roll:


using the current office holder as a template no amount of gaffes or worse can do anything good or bad for election chances.

best regards
Thomas

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:05 pm
by seb146
NIKV69 wrote:
Everybody knew what they were getting with Biden. Especially when it became known he was the only electable candidate in the party. This is not really news.


That explains why Warren, Buttigeig, and Bernie have so much support......

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:21 pm
by NIKV69
seb146 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
Everybody knew what they were getting with Biden. Especially when it became known he was the only electable candidate in the party. This is not really news.


That explains why Warren, Buttigeig, and Bernie have so much support......


Yet zero chance of winning a general election.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:26 pm
by seb146
NIKV69 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
Everybody knew what they were getting with Biden. Especially when it became known he was the only electable candidate in the party. This is not really news.


That explains why Warren, Buttigeig, and Bernie have so much support......


Yet zero chance of winning a general election.


When your own party starts turning on you and you keep doing the same things, they probably have a better chance than you think.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:37 pm
by stratclub
tommy1808 wrote:
FTMCPIUS wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Everybody calm down. The Democratic National Convention is still nearly a year out....

Exactly. What harm can another 300-400 gaffes do? :roll:


using the current office holder as a template no amount of gaffes or worse can do anything good or bad for election chances.

best regards
Thomas

Seriously, Biden's campaign is on life support. he isn't drawing the crowds and his campaign down plays the small crowds saying well, when he needs it they are sure the crowds will be there. 600 or more likely 150 people at his rallies certainly isn't awe inspiring. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/ ... is-1345359

And clearly his onset dementia is showing when he talks to crowds or reporters without a script. I thought it was hilarious that his favorite two non President people are JFK and Thomas Jefferson. It sure looked like he struggled with the answer. Joe was extremely lucky no one asked him what "famous document" Thomas Jefferson wrote that Joe was referring to.

Don't underestimate Trump. He won 2016 while he was being framed for Russian collusion and 80% of the MSM was extremely hostile towards him to the point of telling bold faced lies about him 24/7. Of course he did run against Hillery who actually did have MSM support but she did happen to be one of the worst candidates in history.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:55 pm
by einsteinboricua
stratclub wrote:
And clearly his onset dementia is showing when he talks to crowds or reporters without a script.

OK doctor. You clearly graduated from the Trump School of Modern Medicine so you know how to diagnose illnesses.

Tell me more about this particular case. A patient, boasting about having one of the best memories of all time, and can't get people's names right. Please doctor, tell us what the diagnosis is here.

Or what about this one, doctor? The patient was reading from the teleprompter (a big no-no in conservative circles because it's unpresidential). He was sniffing too much (cold? allergies?...other substances?) and referred to the shooting in Dayton, OH as being in Toledo, OH. Is he blind? Oh please, doctor, DO tell us.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:42 pm
by seb146
stratclub wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
FTMCPIUS wrote:
Exactly. What harm can another 300-400 gaffes do? :roll:


using the current office holder as a template no amount of gaffes or worse can do anything good or bad for election chances.

best regards
Thomas

Seriously, Biden's campaign is on life support. he isn't drawing the crowds and his campaign down plays the small crowds saying well, when he needs it they are sure the crowds will be there. 600 or more likely 150 people at his rallies certainly isn't awe inspiring. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/ ... is-1345359

And clearly his onset dementia is showing when he talks to crowds or reporters without a script. I thought it was hilarious that his favorite two non President people are JFK and Thomas Jefferson. It sure looked like he struggled with the answer. Joe was extremely lucky no one asked him what "famous document" Thomas Jefferson wrote that Joe was referring to.

Don't underestimate Trump. He won 2016 while he was being framed for Russian collusion and 80% of the MSM was extremely hostile towards him to the point of telling bold faced lies about him 24/7. Of course he did run against Hillery who actually did have MSM support but she did happen to be one of the worst candidates in history.


And some people are saying that the current occupant of the White House has mental illness related to syphilis. People say it, it is out there, so, by right wing logic when talking about Biden, it is true.

People are sick and tired of what the golfer in chief is. There will be a change. Either the Republican nominee will be someone completely different or the Democrats will win. Independents and moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans have had enough.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:01 pm
by stratclub
Doesn't take away from the fact that Joe's problems are more than an oops or two. He used the term "famous document" because he was confused about the question and while trying to to back peddle his answer, he couldn't remember what the Declaration of Independence was called. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

TelePrompTers are used quite frequently by the President. He might have just been reading some bad copy. Calling a city by the wrong name? a simple slip. Neither case showed confusion like some of Joe's clams do.

So who are all these people that are sick of the POTUS? The 10's of thousands of people that attend his rallies? People that don't want wide open borders, free stuff to illegal aliens and Socialism? Probably not.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:07 pm
by TheF15Ace
einsteinboricua wrote:
stratclub wrote:
And clearly his onset dementia is showing when he talks to crowds or reporters without a script.

OK doctor. You clearly graduated from the Trump School of Modern Medicine so you know how to diagnose illnesses.

Tell me more about this particular case. A patient, boasting about having one of the best memories of all time, and can't get people's names right. Please doctor, tell us what the diagnosis is here.

Or what about this one, doctor? The patient was reading from the teleprompter (a big no-no in conservative circles because it's unpresidential). He was sniffing too much (cold? allergies?...other substances?) and referred to the shooting in Dayton, OH as being in Toledo, OH. Is he blind? Oh please, doctor, DO tell us.


The Doctor:

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Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:13 pm
by seb146
stratclub wrote:
Doesn't take away from the fact that Joe's problems are more than an oops or two. He used the term "famous document" because he was confused about the question and while trying to to back peddle his answer, he couldn't remember what the Declaration of Independence was called. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

TelePrompTers are used quite frequently by the President. He might have just been reading some bad copy. Calling a city by the wrong name? a simple slip. Neither case showed confusion like some of Joe's clams do.

So who are all these people that are sick of the POTUS? The 10's of thousands of people that attend his rallies? People that don't want wide open borders, free stuff to illegal aliens and Socialism? Probably not.


From November 2008 to November 2016, the right would scream and carry on about how horrible it was Obama had to use teleprompters all the time. How dare he not speak off the cuff. What kind of leader speaks only on script. And so on and so forth. Now that the exact same thing is happening, the same people where were outraged and demanded Obama stop using teleprompters are saying "so what if teleprompters are used? No big deal."

Make up your minds.

As far as the millions wanting literally any functioning adult as president, you must keep in mind that polls only show the opinions of a few hundred and a few thousand at rallies does not speak for the entire nation.

That is another thing: when is this guy going to stop campaigning and golfing and be a leader? We were told Mexico would pay for the stupid vanity wall and that we would have better and lower cost health care. Where are those things?

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:23 am
by winginit
stratclub wrote:
Doesn't take away from the fact that Joe's problems are more than an oops or two. He used the term "famous document" because he was confused about the question and while trying to to back peddle his answer, he couldn't remember what the Declaration of Independence was called. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.


Surely even you'll admit that our current President routinely makes as large if not larger mistakes to an increasing degree. It is genuinely shocking to watch how articulate Trump used to be versus his elementary vocabulary deployed today. Additionally, he seems to have very genuinely, and repeatedly, forgotten where his own father was born.

stratclub wrote:
So who are all these people that are sick of the POTUS? The 10's of thousands of people that attend his rallies? People that don't want wide open borders, free stuff to illegal aliens and Socialism? Probably not.


You might start with the people who voted in the 2018 midterm elections.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:26 am
by winginit
stratclub wrote:
He is getting a lot done


Like... ballooning the deficit? and the national debt? Being humiliated by both the Chinese and the North Koreans?

stratclub wrote:
the Liberal MSM doesn't report ANYTHING he does unless it is to call him a racist, white supremacist, incompetent or worse.


He is all of those things.

stratclub wrote:
Polls are bogus. the 2016 election proved that.


Numerous polls predicted the general election results within the margin of error.

stratclub wrote:
We need the wall to secure our border and we need Congress to stop trying to railroad the President and fix the loopholes in the immigration laws so the Democrats will be stopped from harvesting illegal votes from invaders from all over the planet by giving them free welfare, medical, housing and education on the taxpayer citizens dime.


Couldn't 'the loopholes in the immigration laws' have been fixed during, I don't know, the two years when Republicans had the Presidency, the House, and the Senate?

I know you're new to this forum, but be better at this.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:41 am
by seb146
stratclub wrote:
He is getting a lot done


Like what?

stratclub wrote:
We need the wall to secure our border and we need Congress to stop trying to railroad the President and fix the loopholes in the immigration laws so the Democrats will be stopped from harvesting illegal votes from invaders from all over the planet by giving them free welfare, medical, housing and education on the taxpayer citizens dime.


Republicans had two years to get all that done. Where is our affordable health care? Where is our affordable education? When is Mexico going to pay for our immigration? What is being done about voting?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mitch-mc ... 8645c716ce
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/ ... ll-1207702

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:35 am
by Concierge
DIRECTFLT wrote:
Biden Names His Favorite ‘Non-President’ Political Figures: Thomas Jefferson And JFK….

Perhaps this explains why they were trying to keep his appearances to a minimum

https://www.weaselzippers.us/428678-bid ... n-and-jfk/


Can anyone provide another source on this one?

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:42 am
by Concierge
stratclub wrote:
Doesn't take away from the fact that Joe's problems are more than an oops or two. He used the term "famous document" because he was confused about the question and while trying to to back peddle his answer, he couldn't remember what the Declaration of Independence was called. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

TelePrompTers are used quite frequently by the President. He might have just been reading some bad copy. Calling a city by the wrong name? a simple slip. Neither case showed confusion like some of Joe's clams do.

So who are all these people that are sick of the POTUS? The 10's of thousands of people that attend his rallies? People that don't want wide open borders, free stuff to illegal aliens and Socialism? Probably not.


Well start with the popular majority that did not vote for him in 2016. That's 65 million folks who are certainly sick of him.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:09 am
by tommy1808
stratclub wrote:
Don't underestimate Trump. He won 2016 while he was being framed for Russian collusion


That you still use "framed" tell you me that you haven´t read the Mueller report yet, where it is clearly laid out that his team did in fact collude with the Russians, he only wasn´t convinced he had enough evidence to convince a court that they *knew what they where doing was illegal*, he had absolutely no doubt there was plenty of collusion.

and 80% of the MSM was extremely hostile towards him to the point of telling bold faced lies about him 24/7.


Hahaha.... as if. Everything ever reported about his has either faded out or has proven itself to be true. Nothing, at least that i am aware of, has been shown to be a lie. Heck, and he even had promised to sue all those women for libel. Another broken campaign promise.

did happen to be one of the worst candidates in history.


And of course she was ill, remember........ Russian trolls and ad campaigns tried reeeeaaaaly hard to get people to believe that.

Boy must they feel threatened by Biden that they try the same stunt this early...... Not that he has much chance of winning, but the Russians probably don´t know that, after all they where convinced Trump would lose too and shifted their efforts to preemptively poison Hillarie´s Presidency. They didn´t understand that Americans don´t vote for what they want, but against what they don´t want.

best regards
Thomas

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:33 am
by stratclub
tommy1808 wrote:
stratclub wrote:
Don't underestimate Trump. He won 2016 while he was being framed for Russian collusion


That you still use "framed" tell you me that you haven´t read the Mueller report yet, where it is clearly laid out that his team did in fact collude with the Russians, he only wasn´t convinced he had enough evidence to convince a court that they *knew what they where doing was illegal*, he had absolutely no doubt there was plenty of collusion.

and 80% of the MSM was extremely hostile towards him to the point of telling bold faced lies about him 24/7.


Hahaha.... as if. Everything ever reported about his has either faded out or has proven itself to be true. Nothing, at least that i am aware of, has been shown to be a lie. Heck, and he even had promised to sue all those women for libel. Another broken campaign promise.

did happen to be one of the worst candidates in history.


And of course she was ill, remember........ Russian trolls and ad campaigns tried reeeeaaaaly hard to get people to believe that.

Boy must they feel threatened by Biden that they try the same stunt this early...... Not that he has much chance of winning, but the Russians probably don´t know that, after all they where convinced Trump would lose too and shifted their efforts to preemptively poison Hillarie´s Presidency. They didn´t understand that Americans don´t vote for what they want, but against what they don´t want.

best regards
Thomas

The Mueller report clearly stated No Collusion and no obstruction. Our Constitution clearly states that you are innocent until proven guilty. Most of the Muller report was a political hit piece fairy tale with zero evidence. If there was a chargeable crime, the Mueller report would have said so. A prosecutors only job is to prove evidence for a crime which there wasn't one and so the
Constitutional right that says you are innocent until proven guilty applies.

The whole exoneration nonsense is probably the first time in American history that a prosecutor's report implied someone was guilty because they could not be proven innocent. Completely a violation of Constitutional law. As it is now the DOJ's criminal investigations about How and why the Mueller probe started and a report was written will probably get Mueller and his Trump hating team indicted and the Mueller report thrown in the trash because except for about 2 lines it is a fairy tale written to take down Trump with zero evidence.

The rest of your comments.......................................

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:50 am
by stratclub
Concierge wrote:
stratclub wrote:
Doesn't take away from the fact that Joe's problems are more than an oops or two. He used the term "famous document" because he was confused about the question and while trying to to back peddle his answer, he couldn't remember what the Declaration of Independence was called. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

TelePrompTers are used quite frequently by the President. He might have just been reading some bad copy. Calling a city by the wrong name? a simple slip. Neither case showed confusion like some of Joe's clams do.

So who are all these people that are sick of the POTUS? The 10's of thousands of people that attend his rallies? People that don't want wide open borders, free stuff to illegal aliens and Socialism? Probably not.


Well start with the popular majority that did not vote for him in 2016. That's 65 million folks who are certainly sick of him.

Well if Hillery and her Russia colluding cronies hadn't tried to frame him for what they were doing and the Democratic MSM hadn't told bold faced vicious lies about him and harassed him 24/7, he would have won by a landslide. As it is he won by electoral college votes which is what counts. Most people would have voted for their cat before voting for lying crooked Hillery. Oh and he still is your President at least until 2024.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:58 am
by tommy1808
stratclub wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
stratclub wrote:
Don't underestimate Trump. He won 2016 while he was being framed for Russian collusion


That you still use "framed" tell you me that you haven´t read the Mueller report yet, where it is clearly laid out that his team did in fact collude with the Russians, he only wasn´t convinced he had enough evidence to convince a court that they *knew what they where doing was illegal*, he had absolutely no doubt there was plenty of collusion.

and 80% of the MSM was extremely hostile towards him to the point of telling bold faced lies about him 24/7.


Hahaha.... as if. Everything ever reported about his has either faded out or has proven itself to be true. Nothing, at least that i am aware of, has been shown to be a lie. Heck, and he even had promised to sue all those women for libel. Another broken campaign promise.

did happen to be one of the worst candidates in history.


And of course she was ill, remember........ Russian trolls and ad campaigns tried reeeeaaaaly hard to get people to believe that.

Boy must they feel threatened by Biden that they try the same stunt this early...... Not that he has much chance of winning, but the Russians probably don´t know that, after all they where convinced Trump would lose too and shifted their efforts to preemptively poison Hillarie´s Presidency. They didn´t understand that Americans don´t vote for what they want, but against what they don´t want.

best regards
Thomas

The Mueller report clearly stated No Collusion and no obstruction.


you don´t need to reconfirm that you didn´t read it.

Our Constitution clearly states that you are innocent until proven guilty.


So, as sitting presidents can´t be charged, they are by definition innocent and above the law.

Yeah, sure... that is what the constitution says.

Most of the Muller report was a political hit piece fairy tale with zero evidence.


None of it was and there is obviously ample evidence.

But i play... please quote what part of the Mueller report isn´t factual and a "hit piece".

If there was a chargeable crime, the Mueller report would have said so.


he quite explicitly said that he would not have said so regardless of the evidence he found. So that is a bit no no.

A prosecutors only job is to prove evidence for a crime which there wasn't one and so the


And he did compile ample evidence...

Constitutional right that says you are innocent until proven guilty applies.


I think it says you have to impeach and remove from office first before there can be a trial to make that determination. It is the Grand Old Obstruction of Justice Party getting in the way of those laws being applied.

As it is now the DOJ's criminal investigations about How and why the Mueller probe started and a report was written will probably get Mueller and his Trump hating team indicted.


yeah.. no. It is very likely going down like the IG report about Agent Strzok and his love interest..... complete and total vindication, with the right wing media limited to picking a few single sentences out of context to maintain their spin. Just like that time they only quoted that the IG found political biases, and, being able to completely relay on none of their audience ever bothering to read the report, ignoring that the very next sentences make clear that those personal biases had no bearing on the investigation and all decisions being made are reasonable.

So, we already know from the IG report that the investigation started, and was conducted, fair and square. But since you didn´t read that 500 page piece either, you don´t know any of that, right?

best regards
Thomas

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:26 am
by SQ22
Please keep this thread on topic, this thread is not about the Mueller report.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:49 pm
by StarAC17
einsteinboricua wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
Why are the Democrats actively TRYING to lose the 2020 election? A lot of us, even some on the right want Trump gone and here the Democrats are handing it to Trump and the GOP on a silver platter.

Why is it that Democrats are the ones that have to defeat Trump? Republicans should only be too happy to primary Trump. After all, they use primaries for when someone doesn't follow the party line. Talk about being lazy. Clean up your house first; don't expect Democrats to do it for you.


Trump is the modern GOP, no primary would work because this is who that party wants.

LittleFokker wrote:
If Biden is the nominee, it will be 2004 all over again. Dems nominated the experienced but unexciting John Kerry against an unpopular President who originally lost the popular vote in an environment that was favorable for them. Why can't the party learn its damn lesson?


I think they will and nominate an actual progressive this time. The reason the democrats lose is exactly because they nominate a vanilla candidate who is uninspiring and the ones that did win were actually inspiring. Had they ran Howard Dean in 2004 I think he could have won that election as he had passion and democrats lose trying to get centre right voters.
The biggest problem with Biden is he actually thinks he can work with the GOP to compromise. McConnell even said that if Trump loses it is an all out war and if you are democrat ensuring that he loses is seat is just as important as Trump being defeated.
The concern about Biden to me is that he won't garner enough grass roots support to give the democrats a remote shot at the senate. I personally love that Sanders and Warren have the most passionate support because what they are proposing isn't extreme and polls well. They will drive more voters to the polls and if you think Sanders is a nut please listen to him on Joe Rogan's podcast last week.

EA CO AS wrote:
DarkSnowyNight wrote:
EA CO AS wrote:
Here’s the problem; every Democratic candidate believes they’ve got a real shot at beating Trump in the general election, so their only thing stopping them from becoming the next president is, well, each other!

Therefore, you’ll see all the major Dem candidates and even a few minor ones furiously trying to take the others down, firing off every strategy and attack possible in the process, until one is left standing, possibly taking on another as a VP candidate along the way.

And what? Water's wet? You're outlining the history and purpose of every primary there's ever been. Nothing new there.



Oh spare me, you and I both know that in times past, there have been candidates who knew they had a snowball's chance in hell of winning, yet their sense of pride, duty, whatever, compelled them to run even though they knew they didn't have a shot.

That's totally different for the Dem field right now; they all think they're a few good primaries away from the nomination, and a cakewalk on Election Day. And so they're fighting each other tooth and nail.


The election is 15 months away and the first primary is in 6. Nobody but the media and those in to politics cares right now and let them fight on the issues because the issues help the democrats win, the GOP won last time with 20 candidates. Also American campaigns are just plain ridiculous, we have an election in Canada on October 21st and the formal campaign has yet to begin.

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:13 pm
by bgm
DIRECTFLT wrote:
It Turns Out Joe Biden Is Still A Never-Ending Gaffe Machine

If Biden doesn't tighten up his mental composure quick, more and more Democrats will wonder if he's worth the risk

https://freebeacon.com/politics/it-turn ... e-machine/

Liberal Vox writer David Roberts perhaps put it best on Twitter yesterday. "Dems have another few months to laugh about these kinds of gaffes," he tweeted. "Then they're going to be forced to defend them at a roughly one-per-day pace throughout the entire race." If Biden doesn't tighten up his mental composure quick, more and more Democrats will wonder if he's worth the risk.

Joe Biden would be 78 when he took office in Jan. of 2021... In the unlikely event he won in a race against the younger DJT, who gets younger all the time!!


His mental age certainly does get younger with each repulsive tweet!

Re: Joe Biden ill??

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:59 pm
by DIRECTFLT
Former Vice president Joe Biden (D) suffered yet another mental glitch on the campaign trail in South Carolina, forgetting former President Barack Obama’s name and instead referring to him as “president my boss,” according to a video that surfaced Wednesday 8/28.

https://t.co/kimv3Scec2

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... ze-moment/