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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:03 am

Yossarian22 wrote:
AA100 wrote:
Yossarian22 wrote:
From following the #antielab on Twitter, it appears the Airport is shut again.

The protesters are violating the human rights of those who wish to travel. Preventing me from exiting the country is a violation of my human rights.


The protesters are protesting at the airport peacefully to raise awareness internationally. regardless of your opinion on their cause, they have not attempted to damage or disrupt flights, and have not attempted to enter airside or restricted areas.

It is not the protesters decision to close the airport. It is rightly or wrongly the government/HKIA airport authority choice to do this. So it is not accurate to assume protesters are violating your human rights. If you feel your rights are being violated, you may take other options to leave HKG including land border via train, bus, or car as well as ferry to Macau and Zhuhai.


https://twitter.com/racporter/status/11 ... 41664?s=20

They are blocking passengers from accessing the gates, that is why the airport is shutdown today. With my American passport and Chinese visa, I have the right to do go to Shenzhen or Macau, but not everyone has the right to simply go to Mainland China or Macau.


Fake news. No one can block access to gate. The protesters are only staging sit in on the arrival floor.
 
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:06 am

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B777LRF wrote:
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So they hold a sign that says “Hong Kong is no longer safe”, but don’t let people leave the city they claim is unsafe?


You seem to operate on the misunderstanding, the world revolves around you. It doesn't, and there are far bigger and more important things at play than you having your travel plans somewhat disturbed.

As for the signs, any reasonable observer will understand they're aimed at people outside the territory, not for those who're already there.

There are numerous ways to leave Honkers which doesn't involve flying out of HKG. Ferry to Macau or a train to Shenzen are but two of them, and both are accessible with a minimum of effort. So you're absolutely free to leave the city, albeit perhaps not the way you intended. But when life serves you lemons, remember to make lemonade.


Perhaps, Hong Kong Airlines should issue travel refunds for all bookings for the rest of the week.

Yes, I am aware there are other ways out, I have a plan B and C.

Getting from Shenzhen to Shanghai is not that big of a deal, and I can afford it. But, there are going to be a number of lower budget travelers are are really being pinched by this, and could have trouble paying their way out of this situation. Booking a last minute flight from Shenzhen to the U.S. can be significantly more expensive than a flight booked months in advance from HK. Even just 200 or 300 dollars more for a ticket, would be a significant pinch for a family of 4.


Stop spreading fake news.

There are many ways to get to Shanghai from Shenzhen.

1. Train are usually cheaper.
2. Flight is also cheaper out of SZX.

HKG has always been more expensive to fly in and out to China.

Google flight can tell you such.
 
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:14 am

So all the protesters are getting through immigration and passport control to block the pax gates?????????
As for refunds It's not the airlines fault here, take up with protesters!
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:14 am

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Not sure why it took so long to get this. Should have been obtained weeks ago during the initial protest at the airport.


One would then assume the protest at the airport prior to the injunction was not necessarily illegal.

Anyone with a legal background able to chime in ?
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:19 am

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Fake news. No one can block access to gate. The protesters are only staging sit in on the arrival floor.


I’ll give the poster the benefit of the doubt as not being a native English speaker.

One of the photos I saw posted on one of the links in this thread showed protesters at the entrance to security screening in T2, which is before immigration, which is before the “airside” part of the terminal.

They did not depict protestors within the airside part of the terminal.
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:22 am

zeke wrote:
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Fake news. No one can block access to gate. The protesters are only staging sit in on the arrival floor.


I’ll give the poster the benefit of the doubt as not being a native English speaker.

One of the photos I saw posted on one of the links in this thread showed protesters at the entrance to security screening in T2, which is before immigration, which is before the “airside” part of the terminal.

They did not depict protestors within the airside part of the terminal.


Blocking access to passport control is essentially blocking access to the gates. Your argument is purely semantics.
 
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:24 am

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HKG has always been more expensive to fly in and out to China.

Google flight can tell you such.


It has not always been cheaper, however airlines/flights out of HKG do not receive government subsidies.
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:29 am

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Blocking access to passport control is essentially blocking access to the gates. Your argument is purely semantics.


Not to anutters, they understand the difference between public areas of a terminal and the airside part of the terminal.

Saying they were blocking gates infers the protesters entered the security controlled part of the terminal mixing with transit passengers which was not the case.
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:31 am

Yossarian22 wrote:
B777LRF wrote:
Yossarian22 wrote:

Perhaps, Hong Kong Airlines should issue travel refunds for all bookings for the rest of the week.

Yes, I am aware there are other ways out, I have a plan B and C.

Getting from Shenzhen to Shanghai is not that big of a deal, and I can afford it. But, there are going to be a number of lower budget travelers are are really being pinched by this, and could have trouble paying their way out of this situation. Booking a last minute flight from Shenzhen to the U.S. can be significantly more expensive than a flight booked months in advance from HK. Even just 200 or 300 dollars more for a ticket, would be a significant pinch for a family of 4.


I appreciate your plight, I really do, but the tensions in Hong Kong have been building for months and one could thus reasonably front the argument, any and all visitor presently there willingly ventured to a volatile destination. They have my understanding but, to be honest, not much in the way of sympathy.


I’m not here by choice. I am here for visa reasons, the process started months ago, and by the time it became clear that things were getting out of hand in Hong Kong, my and my wife’s paperwork were too far along, to apply for our visa in a different consulate office.

Whatever VISA reasons you have, it is still your choice. Nobody forced you as a US citizen to go to HK. :roll:

Yossarian22 wrote:
From following the #antielab on Twitter, it appears the Airport is shut again.

The protesters are violating the human rights of those who wish to travel. Preventing me from exiting the country is a violation of my human rights.

Which human rights treaty covers your supposed 'right to travel'? :confused: Migrants from Latin America and Africa might be interested. :scratchchin:
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:47 am

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Fake news.


I greatly dislike this phrase everybody please go back to calling stories false or propaganda
 
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:07 am

Looks like there were some flights that managed to get out of HKG last night - I saw CX105 descending into MEL at lunchtime, so would have left HKG around 12.30-01.00. Given the circumstances, probably mainly transit pax on board.
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:39 am

CX repositioned empty to Oz the last two nights to get the aircraft down under for inbound flights.

Virgin delayed over night and send it’s services out 11am the following morning.

QF also went out last night but very empty as they only had transit and pax who got past departures by 430pm.
 
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:16 pm

Glad to see that there is peaceful protesting happening today (US time), tonight 23:00 (HKT). The disruption with violence and property damage is unacceptable. If what happened at HKG regarding the violence had been most any other place, people would have died.

Back to aviation- I was surprised (but happy) to see UA take the risk and depart from EWR, ORD and SFO when they did as at that time it appeared very questionable as to if operations would be favorable to land. Does anyone know if different alternatives were filed? I'm curious where the alternatives would have been as mainland China does not appear to be a great place for this. Maybe Japan like CX did on one of their JFK flights (completely avoiding Chinese airspace)?
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:49 pm

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Glad to see that there is peaceful protesting happening today (US time), tonight 23:00 (HKT). The disruption with violence and property damage is unacceptable. If what happened at HKG regarding the violence had been most any other place, people would have died.

Back to aviation- I was surprised (but happy) to see UA take the risk and depart from EWR, ORD and SFO when they did as at that time it appeared very questionable as to if operations would be favorable to land. Does anyone know if different alternatives were filed? I'm curious where the alternatives would have been as mainland China does not appear to be a great place for this. Maybe Japan like CX did on one of their JFK flights (completely avoiding Chinese airspace)?

KIX makes a lot of sense.

Long runways, not super-congested, plenty of onward connections to all of Asia for rebooking.
 
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:19 pm

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Maybe Japan like CX did on one of their JFK flights (completely avoiding Chinese airspace)?

This has to do with the jet-streams, not politics.
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:32 pm

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n92r03 wrote:
Maybe Japan like CX did on one of their JFK flights (completely avoiding Chinese airspace)?

This has to do with the jet-streams, not politics.


Negative. Take a look at CX899 (13 Aug). It clearly avoids Chinese airspace.
 
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Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:57 pm

n92r03 wrote:
Speedalive wrote:
n92r03 wrote:
Maybe Japan like CX did on one of their JFK flights (completely avoiding Chinese airspace)?

This has to do with the jet-streams, not politics.


Negative. Take a look at CX899 (13 Aug). It clearly avoids Chinese airspace.

Oh sorry thought we were talking about the eastbound flights which almost always go south towards Taiwan/japan. Here’s why for this specific case ...
A post published on Tuesday afternoon on the official Weibo account of China’s Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission, the ruling Communist Party’s organ managing the police and courts, claimed that CX899 failed to provide the required information regarding the identities of the crew, resulting in the flight being denied entry into Chinese airspace. The flight, known as a ferry flight, was not carrying passengers as its purpose was to move the aircraft into position where it was needed for future use.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3022651/cathay-pacifics-majority-shareholder-pressed-condemning
 
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Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:44 pm

Please understand that not everything that is posted on WEIBO is true, CX has already come out to say that it was not prevented from entering Chinese airspace. HKG had a NOTAM issued at the time for a ground stop and possible diversions for inbound aircraft. As the crew were on a very long flight duty period, with an unknown time when they could resume to HKG they needed somewhere to park.

Most of Chinese airspace is closed, international carriers are only permitted to use routes published “overflying flight routes”, if your flight plan is not listed in that document, clearance will not be granted. This applies to all international carriers in Chinese airspace.

Diverting to KIX gave the opportunity to position the aircraft to a port where it could park overnight, where crew could get off to get rest, have accommodation and ground handling in place, where ground staff are in place,
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:15 am

Access controls have been implemented at HKG. Only ticketed passengers are given access to the terminal.



Announcement for Access Control At Hong Kong International Airport
Access control at the terminal buildings of Hong Kong International Airport is being implemented. Until further notice, only bona fide passengers with a valid air ticket or boarding pass for a flight in the next 24 hours and a valid travel document will be allowed to enter the terminal buildings. Passengers are reminded to arrive at the airport three hours before their departure time for relevant checks at the designated access control checkpoints equipped with 24-hour security cameras. Other members of the public, including those who may want to accompany departure passengers or receiving arrival passengers at the airport should not travel to the airport unless absolutely necessary.


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Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:22 am

High Court extends injunction on protests at Hong Kong International Airport ahead of a fresh round of planned protest dubbed "stress test" to disrupt operations starting Saturday.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/pol ... ort-ensure
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:28 am

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High Court extends injunction on protests at Hong Kong International Airport ahead of a fresh round of planned protest dubbed "stress test" to disrupt operations starting Saturday.


The protest is planned due to the firing of two officials from Airport Authority along with the firing of the union president of KA.

HK gov't can go far in the "purge" b/c they seriously think there will be no repercussions. Meanwhile, they still wonder why HK is dying and why people feels like there's absolutely no future in the city. Yes, I know of the economic reality, but the gov't has nobody else to complain but themselves by putting everything in that single basket call China.

P.S. I just saw LAXIntl's image browsing through this thread. Is that even HK? Almost look like Guangzhou Railway Station in the 90s with all those "Red-White-Blue Bag" (make of nylon) :stirthepot:
P.S. All these talks about protesters disrupting operation, then you just create a long line just to enter the airport. Yep, so much for "fighting" disruption by...well, creating more disruption :banghead:
P.S. I'll be in HK next month, so hopefully the AA is finally smart enough to stop with this BS check that's nothing but idiotic.
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:04 am

I'm flying out Monday for ICN. Usually, the protesters aren't early and my flight is at 8am. I feel bad for the airside retailers, so I hope the $19.1b package the government has planned can be used to offset lost revenue for some of them too. The security staff are really strict too. If you don't have a ticket you are escorted by a cheerful employee to a non-secure area. I was able to go to check-in with my mom, but then I was pretty chased out of the building after she entered the security area.

But I will say, they do the exact same thing in Delhi Airport too, without all the protests. You are checked for tickets to enter the building so it is not unheard of. Just the space in front of the Delhi Terminal 3 is massive versus the tiny area in front of the terminal in HKG.
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Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:17 am

Per reporter Danny Lee at the SCMP, HKG airport traffic fell 11% between August 1-21st. Even worse per HK Tourism officials, visitor bookings are running 50% down y/y for late August period!

Headed for economic disaster for airlines, hotels and those that rely on visitor spending.

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Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:39 am

I can imagine that when ordinary people in Hong Kong start to lose their jobs because of the continued protest, support for those protests will quickly go away. And eventually, the "silent majority" will demand action from those in charge and/or mainland China.
 
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Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:08 am

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Per reporter Danny Lee at the SCMP, HKG airport traffic fell 11% between August 1-21st. Even worse per HK Tourism officials, visitor bookings are running 50% down y/y for late August period!

Headed for economic disaster for airlines, hotels and those that rely on visitor spending.

https://twitter.com/JournoDannyAero/sta ... 5318781952


For hotels - just look up Ramada Inn's price in HK for next week. Yes, USD22 a night (Of course, it doesn't help that their two locations in HK are in North Point, which is a hot spot lately due to the Hokkien population attacking protesters; and Sai Ying Pun, which is another hotspot as it's so close to the PRC's liaison office). Some netizens are joking that it's probably cheaper to rent a hotel room for a month (Which will cost you something like USD600) than paying for rent in one of those divided flat even in places like Shum Shui Po.

(Side note - Harbour Grand Hotel in North Point has some bargain price also at USD88 a night for a 4/5-stars hotel, something that you definitely don't usually see in normal days).

As my relatives said, though, at times it's actually enjoyable again to go to major shopping districts as the mainland tourists declined greatly in number. And that's a sentiment that's certainly shared by a fair number of HKers also, given the problems that overtourism in HK is having on the daily life of many people.

Dieuwer wrote:
I can imagine that when ordinary people in Hong Kong start to lose their jobs because of the continued protest, support for those protests will quickly go away. And eventually, the "silent majority" will demand action from those in charge and/or mainland China.


Essentially this is what the gov't is wanting to back on - by blaming all the economic woes of HK on the protesters, and thus, make the support for the protest dwindle. Well, that and essentially "purging" anyone that support the protest in any form (Which the gov't is trending a thin line - go too far and it'll only make the situation worse as people will then seriously have nothing to lose).

Of course, the gov't still haven't wake up from the fact that the protests is not just supported by those "misguided youth", but by people from all walks of life. But what can one expect when the chief executive herself lives in a parallel universe anyway.
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Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:32 am

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janders wrote:
Per reporter Danny Lee at the SCMP, HKG airport traffic fell 11% between August 1-21st. Even worse per HK Tourism officials, visitor bookings are running 50% down y/y for late August period!

Headed for economic disaster for airlines, hotels and those that rely on visitor spending.

https://twitter.com/JournoDannyAero/sta ... 5318781952


For hotels - just look up Ramada Inn's price in HK for next week. Yes, USD22 a night (Of course, it doesn't help that their two locations in HK are in North Point, which is a hot spot lately due to the Hokkien population attacking protesters; and Sai Ying Pun, which is another hotspot as it's so close to the PRC's liaison office). Some netizens are joking that it's probably cheaper to rent a hotel room for a month (Which will cost you something like USD600) than paying for rent in one of those divided flat even in places like Shum Shui Po.

(Side note - Harbour Grand Hotel in North Point has some bargain price also at USD88 a night for a 4/5-stars hotel, something that you definitely don't usually see in normal days).

As my relatives said, though, at times it's actually enjoyable again to go to major shopping districts as the mainland tourists declined greatly in number. And that's a sentiment that's certainly shared by a fair number of HKers also, given the problems that overtourism in HK is having on the daily life of many people.

Dieuwer wrote:
I can imagine that when ordinary people in Hong Kong start to lose their jobs because of the continued protest, support for those protests will quickly go away. And eventually, the "silent majority" will demand action from those in charge and/or mainland China.


Essentially this is what the gov't is wanting to back on - by blaming all the economic woes of HK on the protesters, and thus, make the support for the protest dwindle. Well, that and essentially "purging" anyone that support the protest in any form (Which the gov't is trending a thin line - go too far and it'll only make the situation worse as people will then seriously have nothing to lose).

Of course, the gov't still haven't wake up from the fact that the protests is not just supported by those "misguided youth", but by people from all walks of life. But what can one expect when the chief executive herself lives in a parallel universe anyway.

The hotel, tourist, and air travel impact.

I personally know individuals who have spent time in Chinese prison for non-crimes. HK business is done if they lose their independence. Too much of what makes Hong Kong work, such as rule of law, is on the line.

How much will traffic and tourism drop if HK losses what makes them unique?

The silent majority will decide how they want. I meet with people losing hundreds of thousands of their personal money who still support the airport protests. Hmmm...

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I personally know individuals who have spent time in Chinese prison for non-crimes. HK business is done if they lose their independence. Too much of what makes Hong Kong work, such as rule of law, is on the line.

How much will traffic and tourism drop if HK losses what makes them unique?


Tourism traffic will probably not be the largest impact. But if, a big IF, business start to reduce their presence in HK and move them elsewhere, you're talking about HK losing its international financial hub status, and with it, gone will be a lot of high yielding business traffic.

If anything, just looking at how much the HK gov't is WAY overreacting nowaday is almost sad. Some protesters at the airport? Let's make some stupid security procedure. And (as of right now) protesters in a district? Let's just shut down the whole MTR line. Well, might as well just shut down the whole city for a week, as the protesters wish?

Oh well, inept gov't is inept. Nothing new about the HK gov't.
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If anything, just looking at how much the HK gov't is WAY overreacting nowaday is almost sad. Some protesters at the airport? Let's make some stupid security procedure. And (as of right now) protesters in a district? Let's just shut down the whole MTR line. Well, might as well just shut down the whole city for a week, as the protesters wish?

Oh well, inept gov't is inept. Nothing new about the HK gov't.


The protestors were actively blocking passengers from checking-in, and "detained" (by tying them to baggage carts with zip ties)--for hours--two men from Mainland China that the protestors accused of being spies.

I don't think the current security restrictions at HKG is an overreaction, given that the protestors made the airport nonoperational, and were attacking travelers at random.
 
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Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:51 am

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lightsaber wrote:
I personally know individuals who have spent time in Chinese prison for non-crimes. HK business is done if they lose their independence. Too much of what makes Hong Kong work, such as rule of law, is on the line.

How much will traffic and tourism drop if HK losses what makes them unique?


Tourism traffic will probably not be the largest impact. But if, a big IF, business start to reduce their presence in HK and move them elsewhere, you're talking about HK losing its international financial hub status, and with it, gone will be a lot of high yielding business traffic.

If anything, just looking at how much the HK gov't is WAY overreacting nowaday is almost sad. Some protesters at the airport? Let's make some stupid security procedure. And (as of right now) protesters in a district? Let's just shut down the whole MTR line. Well, might as well just shut down the whole city for a week, as the protesters wish?

Oh well, inept gov't is inept. Nothing new about the HK gov't.


Are you serious?? They shut down an international airport with fear and violence. The action by the AA is by no means an over reaction.
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Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:54 am

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zakuivcustom wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
I personally know individuals who have spent time in Chinese prison for non-crimes. HK business is done if they lose their independence. Too much of what makes Hong Kong work, such as rule of law, is on the line.

How much will traffic and tourism drop if HK losses what makes them unique?


Tourism traffic will probably not be the largest impact. But if, a big IF, business start to reduce their presence in HK and move them elsewhere, you're talking about HK losing its international financial hub status, and with it, gone will be a lot of high yielding business traffic.

If anything, just looking at how much the HK gov't is WAY overreacting nowaday is almost sad. Some protesters at the airport? Let's make some stupid security procedure. And (as of right now) protesters in a district? Let's just shut down the whole MTR line. Well, might as well just shut down the whole city for a week, as the protesters wish?

Oh well, inept gov't is inept. Nothing new about the HK gov't.


Are you serious?? They shut down an international airport with fear and violence. The action by the AA is by no means an over reaction.

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Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:11 am

United just suspended ORD-HKG in September that is pretty telling. So after HKG - GUM ends that just leaves EWR and SFO. Bad times for HKG. Hoping things get better soon.
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Are you serious?? They shut down an international airport with fear and violence. The action by the AA is by no means an over reaction.


Let see, shutting down the airport on Monday even though they don't have to? Check.
Ok, Tuesday was chaotic, but quite frankly, IMHO AA "let it be chaotic" just to show how bad the protesters are. It's NOT that hard to just deploy the airport police to maintain order when things first started - something that they certainly did NOT do. Instead, they let the protesters shut down the airport on purpose just to make them look bad.

Ultimately, adding those security does what? Nothing other than making it inconvenient for the regular travelers. I guess AA is doing that on purpose also just to make the protesters look bad (and from the comment here, they're successful).

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Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:39 pm

HKG airport September statistics are published:

Flights: (-1.0%)
Local Pax: (-21.1%)
Total Pax: (-12.7%)
Cargo: (-6.2%)

(Total pax = arrival + departure + transfer)
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Re: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest

Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:03 pm

LAXintl wrote:
HKG airport September statistics are published:

Flights: (-1.0%)
Local Pax: (-21.1%)
Total Pax: (-12.7%)
Cargo: (-6.2%)

(Total pax = arrival + departure + transfer)


Are there number for Transfer pax only? Seems to me the drop can almost be 100% attributed to the drop in local pax?

Side note - the airport itself is fine, albeit eerie since the terminal building is so empty. The process of entering the airport is not as painful as I thought it would be, either. The situation now also more or less make protesting at the airport extremely painful and not worth the time and energy (Although I still love the fact that Empty-R still just make the Airport Express Line nearly useless based upon empty protest threats online).

No more IMAX at the airport, though :(.
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