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Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:40 am

The Queen Mary in Long Beach, California sees about 1.5 million paying visitors a year, which is about the same number that visit the observation deck of the Sears Tower in Chicago or the Seattle Space Needle. Shows just how much interest there is in visiting an old ocean liner.
 
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:33 pm

And they still have to seek grants and donations to maintain it...
 
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:02 pm

...and she docked there with her original interior fittings, which attracks interest from tourists.
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:55 pm

VSMUT wrote:
And they still have to seek grants and donations to maintain it...

How come are the Seattle Space Needle and observation deck of the Sears Tower profitable tourist attractions by contrast.
 
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:56 pm

ArchGuy1 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
And they still have to seek grants and donations to maintain it...

How come are the Seattle Space Needle and observation deck of the Sears Tower profitable tourist attractions by contrast.


I don't know, are they? I've never heard of the "Seattle Space Needle" before this post.

But for a starter, buildings are way cheaper to maintain and operate than a ship. They don't rust, they won't take on water, don't need to be repainted every 6 months and so on. Access is much more easy on land. Buildings aren't exposed to open water. Leave a ship to itself, and it will be a wreck in 6 months. Leave a building to itself and it will still be useable more than 30 years later.
Then there is the size, RMS Queen Mary is multiple times bigger than the Seattle tower. Property value also plays an important value in buildings. Water doesn't really carry any value.


As for the Sears Tower, that is a completely different ballgame. The observation deck is a cheap addition they can run for an extra profit. Remember, the entire building is a business, the observation floor doesn't finance all 100+ stories. It is full of tennants, shopping facilities and TV/radio/telephone transmitters on the spire.
 
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:41 pm

I was serving on the USS Long Beach when the Queen Mary arrived - we were designated the Official Welcoming Ship. There was more private boats than I could count so she was well received.

After clearing the ship of pax & personnel & unnecessary supplies and furnishings she was moved into dry dock where Navy ships are normally worked on.
That dry dock was right on our route from the ship to the Navy Gate so I was able to see her every time I left the ship,

The only unfortunate issues were the comments from the pax, who had paid good money tl take that last sailing. The Queen was not air-conditioned and she become most uncomfortable as she sailed through the warmer (hotter) waters. Many were not happy at all, but the shit was designed for the North Atlantic.

All in all, I'm glad that she is still a success.
 
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:03 pm

Ken777 wrote:
I was serving on the USS Long Beach when the Queen Mary arrived - we were designated the Official Welcoming Ship. There was more private boats than I could count so she was well received.

After clearing the ship of pax & personnel & unnecessary supplies and furnishings she was moved into dry dock where Navy ships are normally worked on.
That dry dock was right on our route from the ship to the Navy Gate so I was able to see her every time I left the ship,

The only unfortunate issues were the comments from the pax, who had paid good money tl take that last sailing. The Queen was not air-conditioned and she become most uncomfortable as she sailed through the warmer (hotter) waters. Many were not happy at all, but the shit was designed for the North Atlantic.

All in all, I'm glad that she is still a success.

The Queen Mary symbolizes Long Beach the same way the Eiffel Tower and Arc de Triomphe symbolize Paris, the Statue of Liberty and Empire State Building symbolize New York City, and the London Eye and Big Ben symbolize London.
 
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:23 pm

ArchGuy1 wrote:
Ken777 wrote:
I was serving on the USS Long Beach when the Queen Mary arrived - we were designated the Official Welcoming Ship. There was more private boats than I could count so she was well received.

After clearing the ship of pax & personnel & unnecessary supplies and furnishings she was moved into dry dock where Navy ships are normally worked on.
That dry dock was right on our route from the ship to the Navy Gate so I was able to see her every time I left the ship,

The only unfortunate issues were the comments from the pax, who had paid good money tl take that last sailing. The Queen was not air-conditioned and she become most uncomfortable as she sailed through the warmer (hotter) waters. Many were not happy at all, but the shit was designed for the North Atlantic.

All in all, I'm glad that she is still a success.

The Queen Mary symbolizes Long Beach the same way the Eiffel Tower and Arc de Triomphe symbolize Paris, the Statue of Liberty and Empire State Building symbolize New York City, and the London Eye and Big Ben symbolize London.


That’d mean something IF Long Beach was even a third rate city—it ain’t.

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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:49 pm

The Queen Mary also symbolizes Long Beach in the same way the Golden Gate Bridge does for San Francisco, the Space Needle does for Seattle, and the Gateway Arch does for St.Louis.
 
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:43 pm

VSMUT wrote:
I've never heard of the "Seattle Space Needle" before this post.


The Space Needle is to Seattle what the CN Tower is to Toronto.

ArchGuy1 wrote:
The Queen Mary symbolizes Long Beach the same way the Eiffel Tower and Arc de Triomphe symbolize Paris, the Statue of Liberty and Empire State Building symbolize New York City, and the London Eye and Big Ben symbolize London.


Outside the US and UK I don't know how well the Queen Mary is known. When I travel in Europe and I mention I grew up in St. Louis people mention the Arch. If they don't speak English they draw the Arch in the air, with their finger, when I mention St. Louis, Missouri. Maybe they do know the Queen Mary because... When I was young I didn't realize how well the St. Louis Arch was known outside the country.

I stayed a few nights on the Queen Mary in 2018. I really enjoyed it and the price was great. I had a cabin facing the water and it was very comfortable. I would recommend it to anyone and would go back again. I was there when I was a kid in, in 1985, and I thought it was neat back then too.
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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:31 pm

I was onboard the QE as a kid in ‘62; middle of the Atlantic. Great memory of how it was.

As TWA Captain Dave Gwinn used announce on PA, “the Arch celebrates the World Croquet Tournament held here in St. Louis.

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Re: Visitor Numbers to the Queen Mary

Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:24 pm

[quote="falstaff"][quote="VSMUT"]I've never heard of the "Seattle Space Needle" before this post. [/quote]

The Space Needle is to Seattle what the CN Tower is to Toronto.

[quote="ArchGuy1"]The Queen Mary symbolizes Long Beach the same way the Eiffel Tower and Arc de Triomphe symbolize Paris, the Statue of Liberty and Empire State Building symbolize New York City, and the London Eye and Big Ben symbolize London.[/quote]

Outside the US and UK I don't know how well the Queen Mary is known. When I travel in Europe and I mention I grew up in St. Louis people mention the Arch. If they don't speak English they draw the Arch in the air, with their finger, when I mention St. Louis, Missouri. Maybe they do know the Queen Mary because... When I was young I didn't realize how well the St. Louis Arch was known outside the country.

I stayed a few nights on the Queen Mary in 2018. I really enjoyed it and the price was great. I had a cabin facing the water and it was very comfortable. I would recommend it to anyone and would go back again. I was there when I was a kid in, in 1985, and I thought it was neat back then too.[/quote]
The Queen Mary also sees about the same number of paying visitors as the High Roller in Law Vegas, Fernsehturm in Berlin, and the CN Tower in Toronto.

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