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LittleSprocket wrote:Can’t wait for antifa to show up wearing their masks and assaulting those that dare exercise their first amendment rights...then for members on this board to call the assaults justified.
Who wants to make a bet about which group, left or right instigates the violence?
LittleSprocket wrote:Who wants to make a bet about which group, left or right instigates the violence?
bhill wrote:Why??? This is like going to Saudi Arabia and marching with Crosses!! The 1st Amendment does NOT give you the right to instigate a riot....like yelling fire in a theater. Go do it in D.C. where laws are actually made.
seb146 wrote:I see people demanding the anti fascists remove their masks. I notice no one demanded Klansmen and neo Nazis remove their masks when they were bombing, threatening, and lynching.
TSS wrote:seb146 wrote:I see people demanding the anti fascists remove their masks. I notice no one demanded Klansmen and neo Nazis remove their masks when they were bombing, threatening, and lynching.
Wrong. In places where the Klan was prevalent, laws were passed against appearing/demonstrating in public with one's face covered for exactly those reasons.
stratclub wrote:TSS wrote:seb146 wrote:I see people demanding the anti fascists remove their masks. I notice no one demanded Klansmen and neo Nazis remove their masks when they were bombing, threatening, and lynching.
Wrong. In places where the Klan was prevalent, laws were passed against appearing/demonstrating in public with one's face covered for exactly those reasons.
Petty much the only place the Klan is still active is in the minds of Liberals and is used for Identity baiting.
stratclub wrote:TSS wrote:seb146 wrote:I see people demanding the anti fascists remove their masks. I notice no one demanded Klansmen and neo Nazis remove their masks when they were bombing, threatening, and lynching.
Wrong. In places where the Klan was prevalent, laws were passed against appearing/demonstrating in public with one's face covered for exactly those reasons.
Petty much the only place the Klan is still active is in the minds of Liberals and is used for Identity baiting.
seb146 wrote:stratclub wrote:TSS wrote:
Wrong. In places where the Klan was prevalent, laws were passed against appearing/demonstrating in public with one's face covered for exactly those reasons.
Petty much the only place the Klan is still active is in the minds of Liberals and is used for Identity baiting.
The Klan is still very much active. Neo Nazis are, too. Both cover their faces.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources ... of-the-kkk
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-kkk-today/
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... y/neo-nazi
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... ist-group/
Let's keep things in perspective. KKK started as a group to keep blacks in their place; subserviant to the whites. Neo Nazis are the Pacific Northwest version and a growing problem thanks to Republicans and the occupant of the White House giving them aid and comfort.
Antifa is the boogeyman for the right. They do not have the weapons and financial connections neo Nazis and KKK have because "antifa" is code for "everyone against white power". If righties and Republicans actually and really wanted to distance themselves from neo Nazis and KKK, they would work with anti fascists to lower violence on their end. But, instead, they scream "TERRORISTS!" whenever anyone marches against white supremacists.
LittleSprocket wrote:seb146 wrote:stratclub wrote:Petty much the only place the Klan is still active is in the minds of Liberals and is used for Identity baiting.
The Klan is still very much active. Neo Nazis are, too. Both cover their faces.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources ... of-the-kkk
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-kkk-today/
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... y/neo-nazi
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... ist-group/
Let's keep things in perspective. KKK started as a group to keep blacks in their place; subserviant to the whites. Neo Nazis are the Pacific Northwest version and a growing problem thanks to Republicans and the occupant of the White House giving them aid and comfort.
Antifa is the boogeyman for the right. They do not have the weapons and financial connections neo Nazis and KKK have because "antifa" is code for "everyone against white power". If righties and Republicans actually and really wanted to distance themselves from neo Nazis and KKK, they would work with anti fascists to lower violence on their end. But, instead, they scream "TERRORISTS!" whenever anyone marches against white supremacists.
What does the KKK and antifa have in common...both were started by the Democratic Party to keep those that they disagree with and hate silent.
Do you seriously not see the likeness between the KKK using intimidation techniques and Antifa doing the same to keep those that they disagree with silenced? Both groups hide behind a mask to conceal their identity...instead you want to come on here and state that those that are their to exercise their first amendment right peacefully are somehow worse than those that are using violence to shutdown that peaceful protest.
Tell me something, since the NRA was founded to ensure that freed blacks are able to defend oneself...no, you’re full of it with your nonsense. 1st Amendment and 2nd Amendment rights will stand no matter how much the left cries in this country.
Aaron747 wrote:stratclub wrote:TSS wrote:
Wrong. In places where the Klan was prevalent, laws were passed against appearing/demonstrating in public with one's face covered for exactly those reasons.
Petty much the only place the Klan is still active is in the minds of Liberals and is used for Identity baiting.
Misguided and irrelevant in the context of the current environment. The FBI disagrees with you completely:
Individuals adhering to racially motivated violent extremism ideology have been responsible for the most lethal incidents among domestic terrorists in recent years, and the FBI assesses the threat of violence and lethality posed by racially motivated violent extremists will continue.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/conf ... -supremacy
Redd wrote:Sad to look at the pictures of the rally. People totally divided and filled with hate for each other, a divided country.
All this is about politics and I'm pretty sure the politicians want it this way. A divided population is a population with no say and no power.
The lobby groups equally financially support both parties and there is no difference between them, the Dems pander to the left, the Repubs pander to the right, make them hate each other and become inundated with bullshit meanwhile people are getting more an more taken away from them by the government.
The worst thing about this is that the hate perpetuates itself into becoming worse and worse. I'm terrified to see where this will end up in 5 to 10 years, it's not only happening in the USA of course.
LittleSprocket wrote:seb146 wrote:stratclub wrote:Petty much the only place the Klan is still active is in the minds of Liberals and is used for Identity baiting.
The Klan is still very much active. Neo Nazis are, too. Both cover their faces.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources ... of-the-kkk
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-kkk-today/
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... y/neo-nazi
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... ist-group/
Let's keep things in perspective. KKK started as a group to keep blacks in their place; subserviant to the whites. Neo Nazis are the Pacific Northwest version and a growing problem thanks to Republicans and the occupant of the White House giving them aid and comfort.
Antifa is the boogeyman for the right. They do not have the weapons and financial connections neo Nazis and KKK have because "antifa" is code for "everyone against white power". If righties and Republicans actually and really wanted to distance themselves from neo Nazis and KKK, they would work with anti fascists to lower violence on their end. But, instead, they scream "TERRORISTS!" whenever anyone marches against white supremacists.
What does the KKK and antifa have in common...both were started by the Democratic Party to keep those that they disagree with and hate silent.
Dieuwer wrote:Why is it always Portland?
TSS wrote:It almost seems like someone has been following this thread:
Proud Boys Won A PR Victory In Portland While Antifa Beat Random People- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TK4OmijOOI
The Far Left Has Almost Always Instigated Violence, Here's Proof- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_12guSQfI
casinterest wrote:Oh look,
Another attack on Portland by right wing racists winds up with much ado about nothing, as the liberal Portland police handled the issue.
Dieuwer wrote:Why is it always Portland?
stratclub wrote:casinterest wrote:Oh look,
Another attack on Portland by right wing racists winds up with much ado about nothing, as the liberal Portland police handled the issue.
Your MSM has been lying to you. The right came to Portland to lawfully and peacefully practice their First Amendment rights. The Portland police, in spite of their racist Liberal mayor upheld the law and did not let Fascist ANTIFA cowards from using violence against them.
stratclub wrote:casinterest wrote:Oh look,
Another attack on Portland by right wing racists winds up with much ado about nothing, as the liberal Portland police handled the issue.
Your MSM has been lying to you. The right came to Portland to lawfully and peacefully practice their First Amendment rights. The Portland police, in spite of their racist Liberal mayor upheld the law and did not let Fascist ANTIFA cowards from using violence against them.
seb146 wrote:stratclub wrote:casinterest wrote:Oh look,
Another attack on Portland by right wing racists winds up with much ado about nothing, as the liberal Portland police handled the issue.
Your MSM has been lying to you. The right came to Portland to lawfully and peacefully practice their First Amendment rights. The Portland police, in spite of their racist Liberal mayor upheld the law and did not let Fascist ANTIFA cowards from using violence against them.
The mayor of Portland is the chief of police and white supremacists promised to murder counter protesters
Dieuwer wrote:Why is it always Portland?
gunsontheroof wrote:Dieuwer wrote:Why is it always Portland?
You don't have to get too far outside of Portland in any direction before you find the MAGA ragers, militia nuts and Infowars crusaders. Outside of Portland/Eugene, Oregon (and SW Washington) is generally very conservative. It's always in Portland because it's a strongly liberal city and these Proud Boy shitheels are nothing if not provocateurs. They're not going to get the attention they seek by assembling in Hermiston, Grants Pass or Albany.
slider wrote:Dieuwer wrote:Why is it always Portland?
Because Portland probably has the largest per capita populations of leftist soy boys in the States.
stratclub wrote:seb146 wrote:stratclub wrote:Your MSM has been lying to you. The right came to Portland to lawfully and peacefully practice their First Amendment rights. The Portland police, in spite of their racist Liberal mayor upheld the law and did not let Fascist ANTIFA cowards from using violence against them.
The mayor of Portland is the chief of police and white supremacists promised to murder counter protesters
That's strange. The facts sure don't support your claim. The only violence and destruction in Portland was at the hands Fascist ANTIFA cowards. So who and where are these imaginary white supremacists you speak of? Did some ANTIFA coward hoping to incite violence tell you this? People defending themselves against violence is not murder, it's lawful self defense.
The left as Democrats have been pushing the hate cards of white supremacy, racism, sexism, bigotry etc because that's all the Democrats have. Their whole agenda is Orange Man bad, hate, giving free stuff to people for their vote and Socialism.
slider wrote:Dieuwer wrote:Why is it always Portland?
Because Portland probably has the largest per capita populations of leftist soy boys in the States. And they have a doofus mayor who encourages such rebellion, to the point of having cops stand down while the radicals assault and beat innocent citizens and destroy property without consequence, all whilst wearing masks and harassing law enforcement.
These aren't peaceful 1A protests--they're intent to incite a riot, they're violent, and they should be met with the appropriate amount of force to stop it.
stratclub wrote:In Portland then why was it ONLY those masked Fascist ANTIFA cowards were the only one committing acts of random violence then? And this was after the Proud Boys had already left.
stratclub wrote:Because the Portland police were doing their job for a change instead of being told to stand down. The violence happened after the Proud Boys left. https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/08 ... ments.html
Aaron747 wrote:slider wrote:Dieuwer wrote:Why is it always Portland?
Because Portland probably has the largest per capita populations of leftist soy boys in the States.
Please define. Are they the hairy dudes in open relationships with several women while running a craft brewery? Because PDX has quite a number of those!
stratclub wrote:You must be blind. In both cases ANTIFA initiated the violence. In the first incident, after ANTIFA cowards tried to pull people off of the bus for violent purposes, one of the men on the bus produced a hammer to defend himself.
In the second incident, ANTIFA cowards encircled and attacked a man and his adult daughter and brutally attacked them. Also, none of the victims were proud boys. The ANTIFA initiated violence occurred after the Proud Boys had left. The ONLY people responsible for violence were ANTIFA cowards.
So how does a group of people peacefully exercising their First Amendment rights make them Racist? Your MSM has been lying to you. Lucas can explain to you how the MSM tries to push false narratives as truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMZEIdyKXk Racism just seems to live on in the twisted minds of the Liberal Left.
"A pair of Proud Boys was convicted Monday of roughing up members of an anarchist group that confronted them on the Upper East Side last year.
Maxwell Hare and John Kinsman were found guilty of attempted gang assault, riot and attempted assault after less than two days of deliberations in Manhattan Supreme Court.
Hare and Kinsman were among 10 members of the far-right nationalist organization who were charged in connection to the October 2018 brawl with several members of anti-fascist group Antifa. With the verdict, all but one — who will be tried at a later date — have been convicted. All but three pleaded guilty."