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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/0 ... /23797103/


I feel for him, but the truth is the truth and that does not sit well with our cheating and lying white house occupant. Maybe a forecast for 2020????
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Somebody rocked the cot again - rinse and repeat.
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As long as he makes America great again he will do fine.
 
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Are OAN's ratings jumping in the older than dirt white male segment?
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As long as he makes America great again he will do fine.

exactly, nothing he does actually matters because he is so good at campaigning that all he has to say is the he "made America great and libtards will ruin the country with socialism which leads to communism" and everyone believes him and he wins, just like 2016.
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stl07 wrote:
Jetty wrote:
As long as he makes America great again he will do fine.

exactly, nothing he does actually matters because he is so good at campaigning that all he has to say is the he "made America great and libtards will ruin the country with socialism which leads to communism" and everyone believes him and he wins, just like 2016.


We shall see what happens, can the country be brain dead again in 2020? It has been in the conservative side for 3 years. 3 trillion in new debt in 3 years, now that is making us great again, sure it is. Were not the Republicans railing on about Obama raising the debt during his two terms? The stench of hypocrisy once again from the right. Let me remind you, Obama has two terms in the history books, and no matter how one lies and lies and lies, that can never be changed. Obama was a successful TWO TERM PRESIDENT. ;)
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:58 am

WarRI1 wrote:
stl07 wrote:
Jetty wrote:
As long as he makes America great again he will do fine.

exactly, nothing he does actually matters because he is so good at campaigning that all he has to say is the he "made America great and libtards will ruin the country with socialism which leads to communism" and everyone believes him and he wins, just like 2016.


We shall see what happens, can the country be brain dead again in 2020? It has been in the conservative side for 3 years. 3 trillion in new debt in 3 years, now that is making us great again, sure it is. Were not the Republicans railing on about Obama raising the debt during his two terms? The stench of hypocrisy once again from the right. Let me remind you, Obama has two terms in the history books, and no matter how one lies and lies and lies, that can never be changed. Obama was a successful TWO TERM PRESIDENT. ;)


Don’t forget 45 claimed we’re in ‘the best economy ever’ and that ‘my tax cuts made consumers rich’. We shall see.
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WarRI1 wrote:
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exactly, nothing he does actually matters because he is so good at campaigning that all he has to say is the he "made America great and libtards will ruin the country with socialism which leads to communism" and everyone believes him and he wins, just like 2016.


We shall see what happens, can the country be brain dead again in 2020? It has been in the conservative side for 3 years. 3 trillion in new debt in 3 years, now that is making us great again, sure it is. Were not the Republicans railing on about Obama raising the debt during his two terms? The stench of hypocrisy once again from the right. Let me remind you, Obama has two terms in the history books, and no matter how one lies and lies and lies, that can never be changed. Obama was a successful TWO TERM PRESIDENT. ;)


Don’t forget 45 claimed we’re in ‘the best economy ever’ and that ‘my tax cuts made consumers rich’. We shall see.



I do not know where this claim comes from, except of course, the king of BS. Not one person I know, and at my age I know a few, trust me has said anything like that. Waiters Waitresses, workers, not one. It is sickening BS to explain away 3 trillion in NEW DEBT.
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As long as he makes America great again he will do fine.

Still waiting for him to start...
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Jetty wrote:
As long as he makes America great again he will do fine.

Still waiting for him to start...



He is starting slow on eliminating the National Debt also, I guess first he has to add 3 trillion and then he will have it all figured out. He is a stable Genius after all, they start slow. ;) ;)
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If I lied as much as he does regarding my job, I would have been fired like 2 weeks in. Not to mention all of the other stuff he says. Seriously, just go say the same things and see what HR does with you. Yet, he's the president. Sad state of affairs we are in...
 
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If I lied as much as he does regarding my job, I would have been fired like 2 weeks in. Not to mention all of the other stuff he says. Seriously, just go say the same things and see what HR does with you. Yet, he's the president. Sad state of affairs we are in...


And yet there are members here who will swallow anything he shoots out without blinking an eye. No questions asked. Wonder why that is, maybe less educated? Simple minded?
 
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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/08/19/trump-is-annoyed-with-fox-news-over-poll-results/23797103/


I feel for him, but the truth is the truth and that does not sit well with our cheating and lying white house occupant. Maybe a forecast for 2020????


I'm annoyed with polls, in general. But, Dems, you keep looking at those polls... They're Always the Truth, or, at least, some small part of Truth, whatever that means to you, and Traditional Elections... :lol:
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I'm annoyed with polls, in general. But, Dems, you keep looking at those polls... They're Always the Truth, or, at least, some small part of Truth, whatever that means to you, and Traditional Elections...


Apparently Trump DOES care about the poll a LOT, though.

BTW, Fox News result is consistent with every other polls out there, including Trump's favorite Rasmussen. It's also consistent with basically all the election poll - i.e. Trump's ceiling is at 42-43%. Of course, all these with an economy that's relatively good. Can you imagined a global economic downturn (with plenty of signs pointing to one happening soon) which would affect US one way or another?
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:22 pm

Trump's latest polls have him pushing the bounds of his trending disapproval rating.

Nate Silver keeps a composite of multiple polls including Rasmussen and Fox news so you can see what the overall feel is for Trump.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... id=rrpromo


When you look at Rasmussen, (One of Trump's favorites) , you can see that he his pushing towards his lower ratings again,
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Trump is in for more misery as the Trump Recession develops over the next few months.

An interesting point will be the level of information on Trump's crimes developing as the "Investigations" more forward. The closer to the election that they become public the more he will be worried. He really needs to be re-elected to avoid a lot of indictments. I think they guy is getting nervous.
 
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Polls at this stage in the campaign are utterly useless. 16 months is an eternity and so much can change between now and the 2020 election.
So this whiny crybaby of a man-child can stop throwing his toys out of the pram and all those jumping for joy over his bad numbers should take a step back and not get too excited.
 
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Polls at this stage in the campaign are utterly useless. 16 months is an eternity and so much can change between now and the 2020 election.
So this whiny crybaby of a man-child can stop throwing his toys out of the pram and all those jumping for joy over his bad numbers should take a step back and not get too excited.


Agree. I heard this morning in CNN that his current polling numbers are essentially the same as the numbers reflecting his favorability immediately before the 2016 election. I don’t put much stock at all in polls and frankly I don’t get why the media refers to them at all as though they are reliable, especially given what happened in 2016.
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Polls at this stage in the campaign are utterly useless. 16 months is an eternity and so much can change between now and the 2020 election.
So this whiny crybaby of a man-child can stop throwing his toys out of the pram and all those jumping for joy over his bad numbers should take a step back and not get too excited.

True, but Trump is only driven by greed and vengeance, and he's terrible at making money, so that leaves some olympic level grudge holding. If/as the Faux News relationship frays, it presents an issue for the reelection campaign as it is one of the only, and certainly loudest, uncritical megaphones for Trump. If one or both turn on each other, I'm not sure what avenue can back fill his communication to his base--AOL? Prodigy? :rotfl:
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Trump is in for more misery as the Trump Recession develops over the next few months.


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Trump is in for more misery as the Trump Recession develops over the next few months.


It's a great recession. It's an American recession, made in the USA. It's the best recession!

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And guess what he wants to do to avoid a recession ? More Tax Cuts and More Tariffs. Cause that will stimulate the growth that Trump promised and hasn't delivered on.
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Trump is in for more misery as the Trump Recession develops over the next few months.

An interesting point will be the level of information on Trump's crimes developing as the "Investigations" more forward. The closer to the election that they become public the more he will be worried. He really needs to be re-elected to avoid a lot of indictments. I think they guy is getting nervous.


This may be true, however, I don’t think his supporters would care. Aren’t they already poor rednecks in backwater towns?

I think the only thing that would turn them against him is if he somehow denounced racism and said he liked Mexican folks or something wild like that
 
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Trump is in for more misery as the Trump Recession develops over the next few months.

An interesting point will be the level of information on Trump's crimes developing as the "Investigations" more forward. The closer to the election that they become public the more he will be worried. He really needs to be re-elected to avoid a lot of indictments. I think they guy is getting nervous.


This may be true, however, I don’t think his supporters would care. Aren’t they already poor rednecks in backwater towns?

I think the only thing that would turn them against him is if he somehow denounced racism and said he liked Mexican folks or something wild like that

That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with there. Look, I am no fan of Trump, I hope he loses so badly it makes Johnson/Goldwater in 1964 look like a nail biter. But not all of his supporters are backwoods rubes. I know several and they are regular folks that have jobs, own houses, are not married to their cousin etc
 
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Polls at this stage in the campaign are utterly useless. 16 months is an eternity and so much can change between now and the 2020 election.
So this whiny crybaby of a man-child can stop throwing his toys out of the pram and all those jumping for joy over his bad numbers should take a step back and not get too excited.


Presidential Election poll maybe useless, but approval ratings are not necessarily useless, especially if you look at it as a trend rather than single data point.

The only problem is that 42% approval seems to be Trump’s ceiling. It can only go down but not up.
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ER757 wrote:
SL1200MK2 wrote:
Ken777 wrote:
Trump is in for more misery as the Trump Recession develops over the next few months.

An interesting point will be the level of information on Trump's crimes developing as the "Investigations" more forward. The closer to the election that they become public the more he will be worried. He really needs to be re-elected to avoid a lot of indictments. I think they guy is getting nervous.


This may be true, however, I don’t think his supporters would care. Aren’t they already poor rednecks in backwater towns?

I think the only thing that would turn them against him is if he somehow denounced racism and said he liked Mexican folks or something wild like that

That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with there. Look, I am no fan of Trump, I hope he loses so badly it makes Johnson/Goldwater in 1964 look like a nail biter. But not all of his supporters are backwoods rubes. I know several and they are regular folks that have jobs, own houses, are not married to their cousin etc


There are still too many who support him because of his racist comments. Some of them post here. I am not sure where they live. All I know is, he has the support of casual racists. He is turning his back on children and families being separated, either immigrants or by mass shootings. But, that's okay with his base. He keeps speaking out against Obama and Hillary and his base loves it. A lot of other people understand he has done zero for us who work, like affordable health care, better pay, affordable health care.
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There are still too many who support him because of his racist comments. Some of them post here. I am not sure where they live. All I know is, he has the support of casual racists. He is turning his back on children and families being separated, either immigrants or by mass shootings. But, that's okay with his base. He keeps speaking out against Obama and Hillary and his base loves it. A lot of other people understand he has done zero for us who work, like affordable health care, better pay, affordable health care.


But...But...those of us that work will get another tax cut (supposedly Trump is proposing cutting payroll tax, aka just to make sure SS get into insolvency quicker) :stirthepot: :stirthepot:

BTW, I live in Trump country, and there are plenty of those people that are not necessarily "racist" (i.e. to the point where they cannot be next to somebody of another race), but are also quite ignorant. Some also voted for Trump just b/c they can't stand the Democrat "socialism" or how Democrat "create division by using race/sex/whatever as an issue", and just bushed off the fact that Trump is a total jerk and is totally unqualified.
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And guess what he wants to do to avoid a recession ? More Tax Cuts and More Tariffs. Cause that will stimulate the growth that Trump promised and hasn't delivered on.

Erwin Schrödinger should have based his thought experiment with a Republican instead of with a cat. As far as I'm concerned, Republicans are the only ones that are for something WHILE they're against it. In their world, something is both happening and not happening at once.

Tariffs are being paid exclusively by China, but let's postpone some of them until after Christmas, just in case they hurt consumers.

Farmers are NOT being affected by the trade wars, but let's give them some bailout money.

Mexico is paying for the wall, which is being built and finished...but we need Congress to approve funding for a wall because Mexico will reimburse us and we gotta stop illegal immigrants.

The economy is booming and not going into a recession or slowing down; BTW, let's do a temporary tax cut to boost it.
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And guess what he wants to do to avoid a recession ? More Tax Cuts and More Tariffs. Cause that will stimulate the growth that Trump promised and hasn't delivered on.

Erwin Schrödinger should have based his thought experiment with a Republican instead of with a cat. As far as I'm concerned, Republicans are the only ones that are for something WHILE they're against it. In their world, something is both happening and not happening at once.

Tariffs are being paid exclusively by China, but let's postpone some of them until after Christmas, just in case they hurt consumers.

Farmers are NOT being affected by the trade wars, but let's give them some bailout money.

Mexico is paying for the wall, which is being built and finished...but we need Congress to approve funding for a wall because Mexico will reimburse us and we gotta stop illegal immigrants.

The economy is booming and not going into a recession or slowing down; BTW, let's do a temporary tax cut to boost it.



And his base loves it because they care more about oppressing everyone else rather than what is destroying them.
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WarRI1 wrote:
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/08/19/trump-is-annoyed-with-fox-news-over-poll-results/23797103/


I feel for him, but the truth is the truth and that does not sit well with our cheating and lying white house occupant. Maybe a forecast for 2020????


I'm annoyed with polls, in general. But, Dems, you keep looking at those polls... They're Always the Truth, or, at least, some small part of Truth, whatever that means to you, and Traditional Elections... :lol:


It's funny how Trump doesn't see how published bad polls are good for him....
"Even Fox polls show Trump will lose"

Who is that statement more likely to keep at home come election day, his voters or the others....

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And his base loves it because they care more about oppressing everyone else rather than what is destroying them.

See they think they were and are being oppressed by "liberal" ideals like "everyone should be treated equally" or "healthy people can work and provide better so healthcare should be available to all".
Very oppressive.
And they do not see that Republican ideals are being destroyed and ignore any evidence of such. Runaway budgets and deficits? Who cares? Being amoral and lying all the time ? Who cares? Just look at how he pisses off those other people that oppressed me!

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And his base loves it because they care more about oppressing everyone else rather than what is destroying them.

See they think they were and are being oppressed by "liberal" ideals like "everyone should be treated equally" or "healthy people can work and provide better so healthcare should be available to all".
Very oppressive.
And they do not see that Republican ideals are being destroyed and ignore any evidence of such. Runaway budgets and deficits? Who cares? Being amoral and lying all the time ? Who cares? Just look at how he pisses off those other people that oppressed me!

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This fall and next spring should be rather scary. Trump is going to have to pander to his "Base" Expect massive immigration issues to make the forefront along with wedge Christian issues. All while the economy is floundering. Trump is going to have to explain farmers on welfare, and coal collapse next to the collapse of oil and ethanol prices due to overcapacity.
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I heard this morning in CNN that his current polling numbers are essentially the same as the numbers reflecting his favorability immediately before the 2016 election. I don’t put much stock at all in polls and frankly I don’t get why the media refers to them at all as though they are reliable, especially given what happened in 2016.


Polls are more used to shape opinions than determine them. Here is an exaggerated example to help show how:
How should immigrants be handled at the border:
A) They should be allowed due process and given a court date.
B) Separate children from their parents and lock them in cages.

A is essentially catch and release.

That's why polls are often inaccurate. But they do help shape opinions by making you think more people are for something than their not and you better rethink your minority position.
 
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I heard this morning in CNN that his current polling numbers are essentially the same as the numbers reflecting his favorability immediately before the 2016 election. I don’t put much stock at all in polls and frankly I don’t get why the media refers to them at all as though they are reliable, especially given what happened in 2016.


Polls are more used to shape opinions than determine them. Here is an exaggerated example to help show how:
How should immigrants be handled at the border:
A) They should be allowed due process and given a court date.
B) Separate children from their parents and lock them in cages.

A is essentially catch and release.

That's why polls are often inaccurate. But they do help shape opinions by making you think more people are for something than their not and you better rethink your minority position.

That is why you only want to look at polls that are properly structured.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... ethodology

While I agree that many polls can help "shape opinions", polls like the president approval rating have been done for years and use the exact same questions delivered the same way to give a neutral balance across all years of data.

So not all polls are as you present (but definitely there a lot that are).

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And that is exactly why CNN and the like don't want to use polls properly structured and will often come up with their own.
 
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And that is exactly why CNN and the like don't want to use polls properly structured and will often come up with their own.


Does anyone here have insight or experience with polling methods these days. When I had a landline i was often polled. Do they call cell phones? Create focus groups? Is it possible to contact a truly random group anymore? How is it decided what a representative group is? I could go on forever...
 
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Until this guy, only pundits and armchair quarterbacks like us cared about polls. Now, we are supposed to live and die by them
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And his base loves it because they care more about oppressing everyone else rather than what is destroying them.

See they think they were and are being oppressed by "liberal" ideals like "everyone should be treated equally" or "healthy people can work and provide better so healthcare should be available to all".
Very oppressive.
And they do not see that Republican ideals are being destroyed and ignore any evidence of such. Runaway budgets and deficits? Who cares? Being amoral and lying all the time ? Who cares? Just look at how he pisses off those other people that
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This is the part that always catches me. What I mean is that the typical Trump supporter seems to see everything as reflected off of liberal folks. They get all excited to see others upset, and that, and the racist stuff, is really why they like the guy,

While I admit to making rude comments at times, I really do wonder where these folks live. Something must be so crummy that they get so much pleasure from seeing others get upset. And that they’re willing to represented by a foul human being, so long as other get upset.

The term “elite” that is often used, only comes from conservatives. What’s interesting is that it’s use by them implies their subordination. But why? They seem like proud people, and are certainly important members of society. I just really want a better understanding of this obsession? Things must be really bad in this towns.

So I wonder. If Google and Facebook are so biased, why don’t they start their own? If Hollywood is so liberal, why not have their own production studio somewhere?

It’s just a shame that they believe a guy like trump is someone to be proud of. Obsessed with Obama and the Clinton’s still. What a truly strange thing this is.
 
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ER757 wrote:
Polls at this stage in the campaign are utterly useless. 16 months is an eternity and so much can change between now and the 2020 election.
So this whiny crybaby of a man-child can stop throwing his toys out of the pram and all those jumping for joy over his bad numbers should take a step back and not get too excited.


Agree. I heard this morning in CNN that his current polling numbers are essentially the same as the numbers reflecting his favorability immediately before the 2016 election. I don’t put much stock at all in polls and frankly I don’t get why the media refers to them at all as though they are reliable, especially given what happened in 2016.


Polls show the situation today. They can be reliable or not, but they're not predicting anything. By looking at polls, you are making the prediction yourself.

For example, you see that Trump has low approval ratings, and has never had high ones, and the ratings aren't going up. You try to figure out what could happen between now and the election that could change that. You know that incumbents usually win. You know how the democratic field is shaping up. And you deduct a possible result from that.

Personally I think he can win, I just don't see how, but I'm not a US citizen nor living there.
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Re: trump annoyed with fox news poll results

Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:43 pm

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And his base loves it because they care more about oppressing everyone else rather than what is destroying them.

See they think they were and are being oppressed by "liberal" ideals like "everyone should be treated equally" or "healthy people can work and provide better so healthcare should be available to all".
Very oppressive.
And they do not see that Republican ideals are being destroyed and ignore any evidence of such. Runaway budgets and deficits? Who cares? Being amoral and lying all the time ? Who cares? Just look at how he pisses off those other people that
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This is the part that always catches me. What I mean is that the typical Trump supporter seems to see everything as reflected off of liberal folks. They get all excited to see others upset, and that, and the racist stuff, is really why they like the guy,

While I admit to making rude comments at times, I really do wonder where these folks live. Something must be so crummy that they get so much pleasure from seeing others get upset. And that they’re willing to represented by a foul human being, so long as other get upset.

The term “elite” that is often used, only comes from conservatives. What’s interesting is that it’s use by them implies their subordination. But why? They seem like proud people, and are certainly important members of society. I just really want a better understanding of this obsession? Things must be really bad in this towns.

So I wonder. If Google and Facebook are so biased, why don’t they start their own? If Hollywood is so liberal, why not have their own production studio somewhere?

It’s just a shame that they believe a guy like trump is someone to be proud of. Obsessed with Obama and the Clinton’s still. What a truly strange thing this is.


Distraction and blaming others for problems as a deflection from your own misgivings is a powerful force. This is why nationalism and racism are given such power within the current GOP.

The GOP is a big tent. You have Social Conservatives, Fiscal Conservatives, Foreign Policy Hawks fighting for a piece of the pie. Adding racism and nationalism has been a strong winner for Trump.
Unfortunately the issues he proposed to solve for the rust belt( loss of manufacturing jobs) is not occurring, and his tariffs have taken over and destroyed the farmers as well. His current campaign is trying to bring in other groups to his base , but he is shooting himself in the foot.
Trump has been starting dumpster fires everywhere and now the backdraft is threatening to destroy his bridge to 2020. The Social Conservatives are feeling very powerful and have pushed agendas that are oppressive to women, education, and the LGBQT groups. Fiscal Conservatives forced the tax cut through with the promise of budget cuts and got burned, with the deficit on it's way up. Trump has reached out internationally to enemies, but sent the cold shoulder to our closest allies. Trump is now fighting the resurgence of ISIS, that he declared gone, and has destroyed valuable agreements with IRAN that has only made situations worse.

From the polls, one would think Trump's base is shrinking, and it may be. However he has aligned himself mostly with the angry self involved people that would rather see others suffer, and they have just accepted their own suffering.
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