In the least surprising news ever:

"footage taken by an undercover liberal activist in May and described on Monday by the Portland Mercury showed Ngo witnessing activists from the far-right group Patriot Prayer planning a violent confrontation at a bar associated with left-wing activists. Ngo never reported on what he had seen the Patriot Prayer members planning, and some of the people involved in the attack at the bar now face felony riot charges."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/andy-ngo- ... s?ref=home

Grasping at straws? Justifying a beat down?

Nope, just demonstrating that these conservative 'journalists' only report whatever supports how they feel - no different than MSNBC.

extender wrote:

Grasping at straws? Justifying a beat down?

is that what you are doing?

Seems to me that the So called "journalist" Ngo is nothing of the sort.

extender wrote:

Grasping at straws? Justifying a beat down?

Andy Ngo? Yes to both.

Oh boy, you guys really get to work yourselves into a collective lather over something that never happened. Good to know.

Aaron747 wrote:

Nope, just demonstrating that these conservative 'journalists' only report whatever supports how they feel - no different than MSNBC.

Yup. The "media" as a whole sucks in this country. Everyone has an agenda, and the media is able to pick and choose which stories to tell people about based on whatever agenda they want to push at the moment.

Good article from a week ago on who Andy Ngo is and how he came to get prominent.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/08/andy ... nd-bigotry

One political organizer in Portland who has received death threats stemming from Ngo’s work says, “It’s an arms race for money, and the narrative isn’t the point — the grift is. The larger, more offensive thing you can do, the system rewards it.”

This appears to be Ngo’s model. He uses social media to push biased opinions in conjunction with selectively edited videos that play to the bigotry of his audience. His followers get worked up, and this is often followed by a deluge of threats against his subject.

N1611B wrote:

Aaron747 wrote:

Nope, just demonstrating that these conservative 'journalists' only report whatever supports how they feel - no different than MSNBC.

Yup. The "media" as a whole sucks in this country. Everyone has an agenda, and the media is able to pick and choose which stories to tell people about based on whatever agenda they want to push at the moment.

The point of media anymore is not to report facts. The point of media is to sell. They need to get as much money as possible. The way to do that is to say the most ridiculous things they can. Selectively editing. The right wing media has been pushing the narrative that the right wing terrorists in Portland are completely innocent. Even though there is evidence they are not. The left wing media has been pushing the narrative that the right wing terrorists are violent. The problem is that some people are not willing to accept the truth lies somewhere in between. The problem is that some people look at both sides and choose one, instead of understanding there are in-between points.

VG points. Both side of the issues have bad actors. The MSM does not report news, They many time just plain old report spins on the truth to increase circulation. What we need in journalism is a requirement for ethical standards. Seriously, lawyers have to adhere to ethics, why shouldn't journalists? What they report certainly does shape peoples opinions and given that if what they report is fraudulent, it is nothing more than propaganda to promote a false narrative.

seb146 wrote:

N1611B wrote:

Aaron747 wrote:

Nope, just demonstrating that these conservative 'journalists' only report whatever supports how they feel - no different than MSNBC.

Yup. The "media" as a whole sucks in this country. Everyone has an agenda, and the media is able to pick and choose which stories to tell people about based on whatever agenda they want to push at the moment.

The point of media anymore is not to report facts. The point of media is to sell. They need to get as much money as possible. The way to do that is to say the most ridiculous things they can. Selectively editing. The right wing media has been pushing the narrative that the right wing terrorists in Portland are completely innocent. Even though there is evidence they are not. The left wing media has been pushing the narrative that the right wing terrorists are violent. The problem is that some people are not willing to accept the truth lies somewhere in between. The problem is that some people look at both sides and choose one, instead of understanding there are in-between points.

People who are coexisting peacefully don't generate clicks. The media profits from turmoil, division, and conflict, even if that conflict is created and driven largely by the media itself.

stratclub wrote:

VG points. Both side of the issues have bad actors. The MSM does not report news, They many time just plain old report spins on the truth to increase circulation. What we need in journalism is a requirement for ethical standards. Seriously, lawyers have to adhere to ethics, why shouldn't journalists? What they report certainly does shape peoples opinions and given that if what they report is fraudulent, it is nothing more than propaganda to promote a false narrative.

Oh , so when your narrative unwinds, you blame both sides. HAHA Misdirection much? Do you get lost on the way to the bathroom?

casinterest wrote:

stratclub wrote:

VG points. Both side of the issues have bad actors. The MSM does not report news, They many time just plain old report spins on the truth to increase circulation. What we need in journalism is a requirement for ethical standards. Seriously, lawyers have to adhere to ethics, why shouldn't journalists? What they report certainly does shape peoples opinions and given that if what they report is fraudulent, it is nothing more than propaganda to promote a false narrative.

Oh , so when your narrative unwinds, you blame both sides. HAHA Misdirection much? Do you get lost on the way to the bathroom?

Ah no. Just admitting that neither side is perfect. Just like not all Liberals use Fascist tactics like ANTI-ANTIFA does, not all conservatives are racists. If Andy is pushing a false narrative, then he is trying to deceive people which is not ethical.

stratclub wrote:

casinterest wrote:

stratclub wrote:

VG points. Both side of the issues have bad actors. The MSM does not report news, They many time just plain old report spins on the truth to increase circulation. What we need in journalism is a requirement for ethical standards. Seriously, lawyers have to adhere to ethics, why shouldn't journalists? What they report certainly does shape peoples opinions and given that if what they report is fraudulent, it is nothing more than propaganda to promote a false narrative.

Oh , so when your narrative unwinds, you blame both sides. HAHA Misdirection much? Do you get lost on the way to the bathroom?

Ah no. Just admitting that neither side is perfect. Just like not all Liberals use Fascist tactics like ANTI-ANTIFA does, not all conservatives are racists. If Andy is pushing a false narrative, then he is trying to deceive people which is not ethical.

Oh all of this after having spent over a week railing against Mainstream media. You know why they call it main stream? Because people with common sense can usually agree on it.

casinterest wrote:

stratclub wrote:

casinterest wrote:

Oh , so when your narrative unwinds, you blame both sides. HAHA Misdirection much? Do you get lost on the way to the bathroom?

Ah no. Just admitting that neither side is perfect. Just like not all Liberals use Fascist tactics like ANTI-ANTIFA does, not all conservatives are racists. If Andy is pushing a false narrative, then he is trying to deceive people which is not ethical.

Oh all of this after having spent over a week railing against Mainstream media. You know why they call it main stream? Because people with common sense can usually agree on it.

It all started after deregulation of the media under Reagan. Right wing pundits took to the airwaves insisting that "the main stream media is lying to you!" and people actually believed it. No fact checking or ethics. Just tell people they are oppressed and victims and tiny nuggets that sound plausible enough to make people think they actually ARE victims and oppressed. Look at all the righties outraged over "gay rights" and screaming that "The United States is a Christian nation!" and "my Christianity is under attack!" and willingly giving control to multinational corporations. All because they are being told they are victims.

seb146 wrote:

casinterest wrote:

stratclub wrote:

Ah no. Just admitting that neither side is perfect. Just like not all Liberals use Fascist tactics like ANTI-ANTIFA does, not all conservatives are racists. If Andy is pushing a false narrative, then he is trying to deceive people which is not ethical.

Oh all of this after having spent over a week railing against Mainstream media. You know why they call it main stream? Because people with common sense can usually agree on it.

It all started after deregulation of the media under Reagan. Right wing pundits took to the airwaves insisting that "the main stream media is lying to you!" and people actually believed it. No fact checking or ethics. Just tell people they are oppressed and victims and tiny nuggets that sound plausible enough to make people think they actually ARE victims and oppressed. Look at all the righties outraged over "gay rights" and screaming that "The United States is a Christian nation!" and "my Christianity is under attack!" and willingly giving control to multinational corporations. All because they are being told they are victims.

That’s because the main stream media does lie to us

dmg626 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

casinterest wrote:

Oh all of this after having spent over a week railing against Mainstream media. You know why they call it main stream? Because people with common sense can usually agree on it.

It all started after deregulation of the media under Reagan. Right wing pundits took to the airwaves insisting that "the main stream media is lying to you!" and people actually believed it. No fact checking or ethics. Just tell people they are oppressed and victims and tiny nuggets that sound plausible enough to make people think they actually ARE victims and oppressed. Look at all the righties outraged over "gay rights" and screaming that "The United States is a Christian nation!" and "my Christianity is under attack!" and willingly giving control to multinational corporations. All because they are being told they are victims.

That’s because the main stream media does lie to us

Only in Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow’s worlds do two wrongs make a right.

Aaron747 wrote:

Nope, just demonstrating that these conservative 'journalists' only report whatever supports how they feel - no different than MSNBC.

I'm sorry, who has Rachel Maddow threatened to assault?

KFTG wrote:

Aaron747 wrote:

Nope, just demonstrating that these conservative 'journalists' only report whatever supports how they feel - no different than MSNBC.

I'm sorry, who has Rachel Maddow threatened to assault?

Nobody, but her careless speculation hurt serious journalists trying to factually cover the Mueller investigation.

At least Andy Ngo grifted the wingnuts out of $195,000 before being exposed, and now the wingnut publications are scrubbing his name from their sites. He’s inconvenient now. https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/journa ... te-groups/

SanDiegoLover wrote:

At least Andy Ngo grifted the wingnuts out of $195,000 before being exposed, and now the wingnut publications are scrubbing his name from their sites. He’s inconvenient now. https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/journa ... te-groups/

Grifting is what most of these wingnut 'journalists' and commentators do - Judge Hoebag Pirro is on her third book in as many years? Tom Fitton stole Judicial Watch from its founder and has been its president ever since...these people are real pieces of work.

Ngo sat in on meetings and knew full well that right wing terrorists were trying like everything to use violence. He then turns around and cries and whines and says that only the counter protesters are violent when a milkshake is thrown at him.

SanDiegoLover wrote:

At least Andy Ngo grifted the wingnuts out of $195,000 before being exposed, and now the wingnut publications are scrubbing his name from their sites. He’s inconvenient now. https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/journa ... te-groups/

The gofundme page organized by Michelle Malkin shows what an absolute joke she is. One would hope they'd have the decency to return that money, but I doubt that's going to happen.

So Andy Ngo is a fraud? Shocker. This has shades of Milo. Up until Milo was exposed as an apologist for pedophilia, I was being told that gay people should be listening to what he has to say. Sure....

OA412 wrote:

SanDiegoLover wrote:

At least Andy Ngo grifted the wingnuts out of $195,000 before being exposed, and now the wingnut publications are scrubbing his name from their sites. He’s inconvenient now. https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/journa ... te-groups/

The gofundme page organized by Michelle Malkin shows what an absolute joke she is. One would hope they'd have the decency to return that money, but I doubt that's going to happen.

So Andy Ngo is a fraud? Shocker. This has shades of Milo. Up until Milo was exposed as an apologist for pedophilia, I was being told that gay people should be listening to what he has to say. Sure....

...A pedophile that is constantly heiling Hitler...but he's trolling or something ...because this is what republicans do now.

KFTG wrote:

Aaron747 wrote:

Nope, just demonstrating that these conservative 'journalists' only report whatever supports how they feel - no different than MSNBC.

I'm sorry, who has Rachel Maddow threatened to assault?

Seems like a false equivalency. It'd be hard to find a news organization more in bed--Kimberly Guilfoyle is literally banging Uday or Qusay Trump--with this administration, or any administration, than Faux