Personally, I've been a firm believer in revoking as soon as it became clear that was an option.
However, I'm not sure it's the best plan by the Lib Dems to now officially back that over another referendum - simply because if the UK revokes without an absolutely clear public desire to do so, the Brexiteers will literally never stop trying to overturn it again.
Ideally we need a second referendum and we need it to point clearly to remain.
On the other hand, if it comes to a crunch and the Lib Dems have a sizeable stake in a cooperative grouping trying to sort it out, then at least there's a clear argument that a good number of people do support revoking.
It's hard to know how much of this is posturing and how much the rebel alliance is actually discussing in the background...
The Lib Dems have been unashamedly pro-European for a long time now. Given that the Tories are committed to Brexit one way or another and Labour being all over the place on the issue, I'd say it's a good opportunity for them to formally nail their colours to the mast so people know where they stand on the issue, particularly as an election is pretty much inevitable.
I get where you're coming from by casting doubt over the sensibility of the idea, but I go back to a point I've banged on in this thread multiple times about MP's needing to remember their first duty is to put country before anything else, so if they believe the revoking and remaining is in the country's best interests (the fact I agree with that is irrelevant) then fair play to them.
My take of the rebel alliance is that its remit is to simply stop a no deal Brexit on 31st October 2019. What course they take next is a different matter and it's clear everyone has different ideas on what to do next.
I there is a hard Brexit, I don't see the UK re-entering for at least ten years, the British politics and citizens won't be ready and given what has happened, the EU might not be satisfied with a simple majority. It has cost the EU alot, so the will to re-enter needs to be there and substantial.
I suggest it will take a generation or two. However, that will be dependent on which direction the EU goes next and whether that's palatable/sell-able to the British public.
If it did happen and Schengen is mandatory, that will no doubt mean Ireland having to do the same to both keep an open border with Northern Ireland and to preserve the Common Travel Area, so it's not a straightforward thing to implement.
Ask the people of North Ireland what they want. We know they want to stay in the EU and many want to stay in the UK. NI remaining in the UK except for trade goods gives all of them very much of what a majority want. Call it a UK free port. It might even be a useful manufacturing site for UK companies wanting an easy trade route with the rest of the EU.
I'm not from Northern Ireland so can't speak for them. However, I suspect they just want to see things stay as they are at the moment without returning to borders, violence and maintaining peace.
I suspect seeing Stormont up and running again is another thing they want, but I suspect that will require the electorate to vote in parties who are serious about getting it up and running. Regardless of who's to blame, the DUP and Sinn Fein aren't doing themselves or NI any favours the longer Stormont remains suspended without one or both sides compromising.
The demographics in NI is already changing to mostly Catholic, so long term, the end result is reunification, I don't think we will see further human investment in NI, so if the politicians do not intervene....
That's assuming religion continues to maintain importance and remains part of the identity between unionists and republicans. The influence of the Catholic Church south of the border appears to be waning given how relaxing abortion laws and same-sex marriage have been legalised via referendums in recent years. I suspect in time religion won't determine where people stand on the issue of identity.
What you also need to remember is that if there is a change in the status of Northern Ireland in the future, you would need to ensure you're taking everyone on the journey and not just those who really want it, something that Varadkar is fully aware of even before he became Irish PM and stated recently it's not an immediate priority...https://www.thejournal.ie/leo-varadkar- ... 2-Aug2016/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49247754
I also think that if there is a poll anytime soon and it is found in favour of NI remaining part of the UK, that will be the end of the subject for a generation in much the same way the Scottish independence referendum 5 years ago was (or at least meant to be).
The libdems have a position fit for a minority party. Give us a majority (3XX MPs) and we'll revoke ! Knowing full well that isn't in the cards, and if somehow it happened, then that would prove there is probably a majority for that position.
Some may call it "fit for a minority party", others might see it as them putting country first. As much as it shouldn't be that way, I can see the next election being a single-issue matter.
Either way, I can see at least a referendum on the subject being the price of Lib Dem support in the event of a hung parliament.
Just saying, folks are so fed up with Labour and Tory, if they have a full slate of viable candidates....lightning might strike in the same place twice.
Time will tell if some people are prepared to ditch tribal loyalties. There are millions of people who have always voted Labour or Tory come what may and a good number of those will continue to do so. Some people flirt with other parties and vote different ways in European elections, but when it comes to general elections a lot of them tend to revert to their traditional leanings. There's also the risk of those who will only vote one way or the other choosing not to vote instead if they simply can't bring themselves to vote for somebody else.